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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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god_n grant_v you_o grace_n to_o hate_v the_o one_o and_o so_o you_o shall_v escape_v the_o other_o 19_o the_o second_o consideration_n be_v more_o important_a than_o the_o first_o for_o though_o the_o river_n of_o our_o late_a gospel_n be_v issue_v from_o wickliffs_n fountayn_v yet_o melancthon_n himself_o not_o small_a saint_n in_o john_n fox_n his_o calendar_n shall_v testify_v that_o there_o be_v no_o correspondency_n betwixt_o he_o and_o your_o evangelicall_a church_n even_o in_o some_o principal_a article_n of_o your_o faith_n micon_n melancth_v in_o ep_v ad_fw-la f●eder_n micon_n i_o have_v look_v say_v he_o into_o wickliff_n who_o behave_v himself_o very_o tumultuous_o in_o this_o controversy_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o more_o than_o this_o i_o have_v find_v many_o error_n in_o he_o by_o which_o a_o man_n may_v take_v judgement_n of_o his_o spirit_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o he_o do_v neither_o hold_n nor_o understand_v the_o justice_n of_o faith_n he_o do_v make_v a_o foolish_a confusion_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o temporal_a affair_n he_o brawl_v sophistical_o and_o seditious_o concern_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n be_v due_o and_o conscionable_o weigh_v i_o see_v not_o what_o advantadge_n the_o protestant_n can_v take_v from_o such_o a_o base_a and_o unworthy_a progenitor_n of_o their_o religion_n but_o whereas_o d._n field_n do_v artificial_o pretend_v small_a thing_n and_o conceal_v the_o great_a you_o may_v see_v with_o what_o skill_n and_o subtlety_n he_o labour_v to_o sustain_v a_o evil_a cause_n which_o can_v admit_v no_o competent_a defence_n 20._o concern_v the_o four_o particular_a i_o will_v not_o say_v much_o though_o in_o this_o also_o the_o doctor_n have_v use_v a_o very_a cunning_a depravation_n for_o as_o before_o he_o lay_v the_o condemnation_n of_o husse_n and_o wickliff_n upon_o other_o person_n but_o not_o upon_o gerson_n and_o allege_v no_o other_o reason_n thereof_o but_o only_o his_o position_n against_o the_o clergy_n so_o now_o he_o add_v far_a as_o a_o parcel_n of_o gerson_n continuate_a discourse_n in_o the_o same_o apologetic_n same_o in_o dialog_n apologetic_n place_n that_o many_o of_o those_o position_n may_v carry_v a_o good_a and_o catholic_n sense_n if_o they_o may_v have_v find_v a_o favourable_a construction_n 21._o good_a reader_n have_v a_o little_a patience_n in_o thy_o admiration_n of_o this_o faithless_a deal_n for_o i_o assure_v thou_o that_o gerson_n in_o all_o that_o discourse_n have_v not_o one_o syllable_n direct_o or_o indirect_o sound_v unto_o this_o purpose_n neither_o do_v the_o learned_a doctor_n insinuate_v unto_o we_o whence_o he_o take_v or_o where_o we_o may_v find_v that_o extenuation_n of_o wickliffs_n crime_n howbeit_o peruse_v the_o work_n of_o gerson_n almost_o from_o the_o α_n to_o the_o ω_fw-gr thereof_o d._n field_n marvellous_a suggestion_n invite_v i_o first_o unto_o that_o happy_a labour_n i_o 3._o i_o part._n 1._o serm._n pro_fw-la vi●gio_fw-la regis_fw-la romsecund●_n parte_fw-la principali_fw-la directione_n 3._o find_v this_o assertion_n deliver_v by_o he_o viz._n a_o general_a council_n may_v condemn_v many_o proposition_n with_o their_o author_n though_o they_o may_v have_v some_o gloss_n or_o exposition_n or_o true_a logical_a sense_n this_o rule_n be_v practise_v by_o this_o council_n in_o many_o article_n of_o wickliff_n and_o husse_v some_o whereof_z may_v receive_v some_o defence_n either_o by_o the_o force_n of_o logic_n or_o grammar_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o council_n do_v careful_o attend_v that_o speech_n of_o hilary_n say_v intelligentia_fw-la dictorum_fw-la ex_fw-la causis_fw-la est_fw-la assumenda_fw-la dicendi_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o that_o of_o augustine_n say_v theologis_fw-la ad_fw-la certam_fw-la regulam_fw-la loqui_fw-la fas_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n 22._o i_o remit_v you_o unto_o the_o author_n for_o the_o rest_n only_o i_o will_v now_o entreat_v you_o to_o consider_v these_o three_o point_n first_o the_o doctor_n craft_n in_o convaigh_v those_o thing_n into_o one_o sentence_n which_o be_v disperse_v in_o sundry_a place_n and_o thus_o he_o entangle_v his_o reader_n with_o perplex_a and_o obscure_a device_n second_o he_o pretend_v that_o the_o position_n of_o wickliff_n which_o may_v bear_v a_o catholic_n sense_n by_o a_o favourable_a construction_n be_v such_o as_o seem_v to_o derogate_v from_o the_o state_n of_o the_o clergy_n but_o as_o gerson_n give_v no_o signification_n thereof_o by_o any_o one_o instance_n so_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o those_o position_n can_v not_o possible_o receive_v a_o favourable_a construction_n to_o yield_v any_o catholic_n sense_n as_o you_o may_v judge_v by_o your_o own_o wisdom_n and_o discretion_n and_o for_o a_o just_a experiment_n hereof_o i_o report_v i_o unto_o the_o 15._o the_o num_fw-la 15._o precedent_n three_o and_o last_o you_o see_v that_o though_o d._n field_n will_v exaggerate_v the_o severity_n of_o the_o council_n herein_o forasmuch_o as_o it_o do_v not_o condescend_v unto_o a_o favourable_a interpretation_n etc._n etc._n ye●_n gerson_n himself_o who_o he_o will_v seem_v to_o follow_v in_o this_o matter_n do_v approve_v the_o counsel_n prudency_n and_o he_o prescribe_v it_o as_o a_o direction_n also_o in_o the_o like_a case_n and_o thus_o gentle_a reader_n i_o have_v compendious_o note_v forth_o unto_o you_o many_o fraud_n and_o corruption_n of_o this_o doctor_n in_o his_o first_o passage_n the_o far_a prosecution_n whereof_o i_o leave_v unto_o your_o wise_n and_o religious_a heart_n nor_o doubt_v but_o that_o you_o will_v remember_v my_o advice_n for_o your_o soul_n health_n try_v before_o you_o tru_v 23._o i_o come_v now_o unto_o his_o second_o passage_n wherein_o i_o may_v abound_v and_o furnish_v you_o with_o plentiful_a matter_n but_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v that_o i_o write_v a_o appendix_n only_o at_o this_o time_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v be_v enforce_v to_o contract_v myself_o and_o to_o draw_v my_o discourse_n into_o a_o narrow_a compass_n 24._o you_o must_v remember_v that_o in_o this_o passage_n the_o doctor_n have_v find_v a_o mean_n how_o the_o disgrace_n of_o that_o hostility_n which_o reign_v betwixt_o the_o lutheran_n and_o caluinian_a faction_n may_v be_v derive_v upon_o the_o papist_n yea_o this_o diversity_n say_v he_o be_v to_o be_v impute_v whole_o unto_o they_o because_o a_o reformation_n be_v to_o be_v effect_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o faction_n of_o the_o pope_n flatterer_n be_v a_o impediment_n thereunto_o so_o that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v do_v in_o a_o general_a council_n as_o apologetic_n as_o parte_fw-la 3._o in_o dialog_n apologetic_n gerson_n foresee_v out_o of_o his_o experience_n it_o be_v necessary_o to_o be_v assay_v in_o the_o particular_a kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n whence_o some_o diversity_n can_v not_o but_o ensue_v while_o one_o know_v not_o nor_o expect_v to_o know_v what_o a_o other_o do_v 25._o that_o gerson_n do_v earnest_o desire_v a_o reformation_n his_o own_o testimony_n will_v evince_v i_o see_v say_v fine_a say_v ibid._n in_o fine_a he_o that_o the_o reformation_n of_o the_o church_n will_v never_o be_v make_v by_o a_o council_n without_o the_o presidency_n of_o a_o well_o affect_a guide_n wise_a and_o constant_a let_v the_o member_n therefore_o provide_v for_o themselves_o throughout_o all_o kingdom_n and_o province_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v able_a and_o know_v how_o to_o compass_v this_o work_n here_o d._n field_n triumph_v etc._n see_v before_o §_o 1._o num_fw-la 4._o etc._n etc._n apply_v this_o counsel_n of_o gerson_n unto_o the_o tumultuation_n of_o luther_n and_o zwinglius_fw-la and_o such_o disastrous_a reformer_n but_o with_o what_o conscience_n with_o what_o honesty_n with_o what_o respect_n of_o god_n or_o man_n can_v d._n field_n thus_o deprave_v the_o intention_n of_o gerson_n and_o thus_o obscure_a the_o light_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o thus_o abuse_v the_o 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a_o execution_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a decree_n but_o what_o decree_n be_v