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A74992 An ansvver to Mr. J.G. his XL. queries, touching the lawfulness, or unlawfulness of holding church-communion, between such who have been baptized after their beleeving, and others who have not otherwise been baptized, then in their infancie. As likewise touching infant, and after baptism. In which answer, the undueness of such mixt communion is declared, the unlawfulness of infant-baptism, and the necessity of after baptism is asserted. By W.A. Allen, William, d. 1686. 1653 (1653) Wing A1054A; Thomason E713_17; ESTC R207237 74,298 97

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the_o ordinance_n concern_v the_o baptism_n of_o child_n be_v without_o scripture_n and_o be_v find_v to_o be_v only_o a_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 30._o bucerus_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o groundwork_n and_o cause_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o congregation_n of_o god_n confession_n of_o sin_n be_v always_o the_o first_o the_o which_o in_o time_n past_a go_v before_o baptism_n for_o common_o child_n be_v baptize_v when_o they_o come_v to_o their_o understanding_n and_o again_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o chu_n ch_n no_o man_n be_v baptise_v &_o receive_v into_o the_o congregation_n but_o those_o that_o through_o hear_v the_o word_n whole_o give_v ou●r_o and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o christ_n and_o again_o in_o annotationibus_fw-la super_fw-la 4._o john_n so_o much_o as_o in_o