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A31663	An impartial account of the Portsmouth disputation with some just reflections on Dr. Russel's pretended narrative : with an abrigdment of those discourses that were the innocent occasion of that disputation / by Samuel Chandler, William Leigh, Benjamin Robinson.	Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William.; Robinson, Benjamin, 1666-1724.	1699 (1699)	Wing C1933; ESTC R24745	96,620	125

in a Fish Pond Overwhelm'd with the Holy Ghost But to this I Answer it was the sound that fill'd the House and not the Cloven Tongues of Fire which were the Emblems of the Holy Ghost and sure they were not Overwhelm'd wi●h these but that promise was made good I will pour out my Spirit Acts 2.17 Now the pouring out of the Spirit is frequently represented by pouring out water Is. 44.3 But several Scriptures are pretended for dipping the most material are these 1. Mat. 3.16 Iesus went up out of the water I Answer he might acording to the Practice of those times go into the Water to wash his Feet foul with Travelling and Iohn might pour Water on his Face but the Greek word may be render'd he went up from the Water The like Answer may be given to Mar. 1.9 Iesus was Baptiz'd of Iohn in Iordan It doth not prove his whole Body was plung'd there Nay 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 frequently signifys to and if we compare this place with Mat. 3.13 Iesus came from Nazareth of Galilee to Iordan to be Baptized of Iohn So here we may read the words with a Parenthesis And Iesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was Baptiz'd of Iohn to Iordan 2. Another Scripture is Ioh. 3.23 Iohn Baptized in Enon because there was much Water there I Answer much Water may be meant not of depth but length many streams and Rivulets where Iohn and his Disciples might conveniently together Baptize or pour Water on the Multitudes 3. Another Scripture is Acts 8.38 where Philip and the Eunuch are said both to go down into the Water whence some would infer that the Eunuch was dip'd I Answer they might only go down to and come from the Water So the Greek may be render'd the Water running in the valleys B●t if Men will insist on the letter of the Text Phillip must dip himself as well as the Eunuch for they both went down Or they might go ankle deep and Philip might pour Water on his Head or Face either of these interp●etations are probable and therefore it cannot Necessari●y be prov'd he was dipt besides the unlikelihood that he was dipt on a Journey when perhaps he might have no cloaths to change 4. The Principal Scripture they boast of is Rom. 6.4 Being Buried with Christ in Baptism Whence they argue B●p●ism must represent a Burial therefore the whole B●dy must be cover'd with Water This Text we have given a distinct Answer to in our Reflections on Dr Russel Chap. 2. Refl 12.13 therefore thither I Refer the Reader and shall only say here 1. It is no where said that Baptism represents Christs Burial but only that we are oblig'd to conform our selves thereby to Christs Death Burial and Resurrection to die to Sin and rise again to newness of Life This we do whatever ri●e be us'd 2. In our way if that will satisfy there is a Representation of Christs Death the pouring out of Water denoting the pouring his Blood or Soul of his Burial as the Face the Principal part of the Body is put under the Water of his Resurrection when the Child is taken up and deliver'd again to its Parents or O●●erers 3. If they will keep strictly to the Significancy of a Burial the Person to be Baptiz'd must not walk into the Water but be taken up by the Baptizer and cast down into it for indeed the difference between our way and theirs is only this we Baptize the face and they Baptize the head and shoulders too 4. Metaphors must not be stretched too far and let our Brethren take heed how they stretch this Expression so as to Justify the Practice of others that differ from them you read v. 6. our Old Man is Crucify'd with Christ. H●●ce the Romanists infer the Necessity of Crossing in Ba●●ism let not the Metaphor therefore be stretch'd too ●ar 5. There are many more Scriptures that have an Allusion to Sprinkling or pouring Water on the Face thus we r●ad Is. 44.3 I will pour Water on him that is thirsty c. which is Interpreted of Gods pouring out his Spirit and Blessing on the seed of Believers So Heb. 10.22 Having your Hearts Sprinkled from an Evil Conscience and your Bodys wash'd with pure Water And many other places So that our way most fairly Represents the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ together with the Application of his Blood and Spirit and the Anabaptists of Amsterdam are so sensible of this that they Generally Baptize by pouring Water upon the Head 4. There is great probability if not certainty that many were not dip'd in Scripture times Particularly Acts 2.41 we read of 3000 Baptiz'd in part of a day And this was at Ierusalem where there were no Rivers but only the Brook Cedron Besides these were either dipt naked or with their Cloaths if Naked this would be an unseemly sight and look as if they were full of New Wine indeed tho' by the way I think that part that is Baptiz'd ought to be Naked to Represent our Nakedness before God if with their Cloaths this would be as strange for it cannot be expected they brought Cloaths with them at that Juncture and it would have been very unseemly to see so many Persons come out of the Water in such a condition and go down to their Houses which might be at a great distance not to mention that it was hardly possible for the 12 Ap●s●les if we should add the 70 Disciples to them 〈◊〉 y●●●he Text mentions not to dip 3000 in so sho●t a time they had need have brawny Arms and an Here●●●an strength to do this Again we read A●ts 9. ● 18 that Saul after 3 days fasti●g w●s Baptiz●d by Ananias we read not that he wen● out of the Ho●●e nor is it probable that God who will have Mercy and not Sacrifice would at that time require he should be plung'd in Cold Water which might Prejudice his Health o● Life Again Acts 16.33 The Jaylor and all his were Baptiz'd at midnight 'T is unlikely they went to a River at that time 5. It is not the quantity of Water but the quality that is Significant As in the other Sacrament we are Commanded to Eat Bread and drink Wine in Remembrance of Christ So in this to be wash'd in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost and as in the other it is not said what quantity of Bread we shall Eat or Wine we shall Drink So neither in this after what manner the Water shall be apply'd whether by dipping Sprinkling or pouring Water on the Face It might be equally pretended that we must Eat and Drink plentifully at the Lords Table because this best sets forth a Feast as it is call'd 1 Cor. 5.8 or Eat a whole Loaf to represent our partaking of Christs fulness and receiving from him Grace for Grace there is as much Necessity for this as for dipping to represent our Burial with Christ. But as a small bit of

mistake of the Parent or thro' the absence of a Minister we don't think God will nor are we any of those who dare pass a sentence of Death in such a Case And for the point of dipping we reckon it to be yet much less material The necessity of it we do indeed oppose and doubt not but the Ordinance of Baptism so far as concerns this Controversie is Lawfully Administer'd if water be apply'd to a Person in any other way or manner so it be done with the awful and solemn mention of the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost But yet supposing it be so order'd that the Life of the Person be not hazarded by it nor any breach made upon the Rules of modesty we do not Condemn the Practice of Dipping And in those two Cases all that are truly Pious amongst your selves must upon deliberation needs disallow it as well as we 2. And now we will suppose the mistake to be on our part We make no difficulty of it to own that we are fallible As wise and good Men as we are nay far wiser and better than we have been mistaken and 't is no wonder if in many things we be so Nay we doubt not but in some things at least we are so because we are Men Tho' we do not know that in any Principle of Religion we are so for that we dare not knowingly Err Wherein soever we are convinc'd of a mistake we do and we are willing to retract it But we may be in an errour and may not know it And we will for a while suppose tho' we have never yet seen reason to grant that as to the matters in difference betwixt you and us we are under a mistake Yet neither can the mistake on our side endanger the Foundations supposing we shou'd be mistaken For As to the Point of Infant-Baptism if it shou'd prove to be a mistake 't is only a Circumstantial one a mistake as to the time of Administration This is the worst that can be made of it if we shou'd be mistaken And where is the damage supposing we shou'd be too early laid under the most-solemn Bonds to be the Lords Tho' by the way we see not how this can be done too soon We do not we dare not rest upon our having been baptiz'd in Infancy as if that wou'd of it self save us We do indeed reckon it to be Valid Baptism and that we do not need to be Baptiz'd again when we become Adult but we don't think our Infant-Baptism will stand instead of Regeneration or exempt us from the necessity of Faith Repentance or a life of serious Holiness when we are Adult Nay we look upon our selves by Vertue of that Baptism to lie under unalterable Bonds and Obligations hereunto And now tho' it shou'd be suppos'd we are under a mistake as to the time when this Ordinance shou'd be Administred yet can it have no hurtful influence upon us or upon any of those great and important Principles of Christianity in which we are agreed Or again if you suppose us also mistaken as to the manner of application while we do not as you dip or plunge the Person baptiz'd wholly under water but only apply a small quantity of water to 'em most commonly by Pouring it upon their Faces Yet neither can this surely if a mistake be by you Accounted a very dangerous one No part of serious Religion can be thought to be endanger'd by it The Kingdom of Christ does not consist in Dipping so as that he that is Dipp'd shall be sav'd and he that is not Dipp'd shall be Damn'd You your selves dare not lay so great a stress upon it What! Shall a Soul that is truly Penitent and with serious Actings of Faith and Love gives up it self to God in Christ a Soul that resolvedly lies at his Foot that will not wickedly depart from him Can you think such a Soul shall yet be rejected by him meerly because in their Baptism they were not Dipp'd under water This is what upon serious deliberation we are perswaded none of you dare avow III. Now then since it appears that the matters in contest betwixt you and us at least amongst the Pious and Sober on both sides are so inconsiderable and comparatively small we wou'd make it the matter of our earnest request to you that they may accordingly be own'd and look'd upon by you do not enhance or over-rate the Value of 'em By this means a happy ●utual agreement might most probably be effected however all the ill effects of our remaining disagreements wou'd be prevented or rem●v'd 1. No way more likely than this to promote an Agreement amongst us Apprehensions that the differences are greater and the mistakes more dangerous than they are do naturally influence both si●e to ●ook with strangenest upon each other and prejudice 'em against what is or may be offer'd on either side But were it rightly consi●er'd how little the difference is it wou'd yet tend to ●ake it less by softening minds on each side and preparing 'em with greater impartiality to entertain whatever convincing evidence is laid before ' em Or 2. If it wou'd not remove our differences themselves it wou'd at least prevent all the ill effects of 'em For instance why might we not love and live like Christians notwithstanding the remaining differences in our Opinions Wh● might we not pray with and for each other Wh● might we not according to the Rule of the Gospel look favourably upon each others mistakes and receive each other to Love and Communion avoiding doubtful disputations Rom. 14. throughout the Chapter We solemnly declare we are ready thus to receive you we dare not but receive all whom we are perswaded our Lord himself will receive Let there not be a breach maintain'd on your Part while we impose no sinful or so much as suspected Term of Communion on you Or supposing upon one or other mistake you shou'd think fit to separate your selves from us from our Assemblies yet at least we beg you wou'd in your distinct Assemblies see to it that the great and uncontroverted Principles of Christianity may be ordinarily and with greatest warmth and earnestness insisted on and let not your Heat and Zeal be laid out upon the little things in which we differ Let your endeavours be rather to make Men Christians than to make 'em Antipaedobaptists and shew that you prefer the interests of our common Lord before those of your particular Party For a close we would leave those Words of the Apostle with you Phil. 3.15 16. Nevertheless wherein we have already attain'd let us walk by the ●ame Rule let us mind the same things And if in any thing ye ●e neve● 〈◊〉 minded God will reveal even this unto you B. Robinson S. Chandler W. Leigh AN INTRODUCTION MUST I again be call'd out to engage in this irksome and unpleasing Controversy Who had much rather spend my time in healing differences and

have more Reason to hope the promises will be made good to them than others The vein of Election frequently runs in the Channel of Believing Parents and their seed 5. They are put into a new Covenant Relation As Abraham receiv'd the sign of Circumcision as a Seal of the Righteousness of Faith to himself and seed Rom. 4.11 So this ordinance of Baptism shall be a Seal of the Righteousness of Faith to Believers and their seed 6. If they dye during their Infant State they shall be saved Our Saviour useth this Argument for the proof of the Resurrection I am the God of Abraham Mat. 22.32 Now for God to be the God of any is to distinguish them from others by his rewards he did not do thus for Abraham and his Family in this World therefore there is another Heb. 11.16 Now when God is said to be a God to Believers and their seed the meaning is he will be a rewarder of them therefore if they dy in their Infant State they have a promise to rely on that God will receive them to Salvation Whereas others must leave their Children to the unfathomable depths of Divine Mercy as they do the Heathen World 3. The Practical uses of Infant Baptism beyond that of Years This I do the rather to take off the Common Objection that Infant Baptism is an useless Ordinance 1. By Baptizing our Infants we practically own our Original Pollution Those Baptiz'd at R●per Years own themselves Sinners by Practice but do not necessarily own that there is a Fountain of Sin within But when we offer our Children to be Baptiz'd we acknowledg that we have been Instruments of conveying polluted Natures to our Infants and that they need washing by the Blood and Spirit of Christ. Thus the Prophet sets forth our sinful State by the Pollutions of a new born Infant Ezek. 16.4 2. Hereby we practically acknowledg the Necessity of Gods free Grace in order to our recovery As an Infant cannot contribute to his Baptism but is purely passive So we can contribute nothing by any Work or Merit of our own towards obtaining the Grace of God and Regenerating Influences of his Spirit It is not in him that willeth nor in him that runneth but in God that sheweth Mercy Rom. 9.16 3. Hereby we practically own Christs universal Headship that he is Lord of all of all Ages Sexes and Conditions Those that deny their Children to be in Covenant with God hereby deny them to be Visible Members of Christ And thus rob him of a great part of his Subjects and indeed rob themselves of that comfort they might enjoy they look upon their Infants as in the same case and State with the Heathen World If Christ save them it is by a Prerogative of Mercy and not as his Members or Covenant Children but for this cause Christ both Died ●●d Rose and reviv'd that he might be the Lord of the Dead and Living Rom. 14.9 and as Christ whilst an Infant himself was head of the Church so he is pleas'd to admit of Infant Members in Covenant with him 4. Infant Baptism lays stronger Obligations on Parents to train up their Children for God Certainly t is a mighty Obligation on a Parent to consider 1. I have Solemnly devoted my Child to God Solemnly promis'd before the Minister and in the Face of a great Congregation that I will Endeavour by hearty Prayers Serious Instructions and a Religious Example to train up my Child for God the vows of the Lord are upon me and I shall add perjury to the rest of my Sins if I Neglect them The Prophet makes it a great Agravation of the Israelites Sin that they had taken their Sons and Daughters that they had Born unto God and Sacrafic'd them to Idols Ezek. 16.21 and it follows Thou hast slain my Children God calls them his Children as born in his Family and Solemnly devoted to him So the sin of Christians will be highly aggravated if they bring up their Children for the destroyer and Neglect those Parental Instructions they have oblig'd themselves to 5. Infant Baptism Engages Children to acquaint themselves with the Terms and Tenour of the Covenant When Children are told by their Parents how Solemnly they were enter'd into Covenant with God this engages them to enquire betimes what they are by Nature what they may be by Grace and to understand all the Principles of Religion in order to that end 6. Infant Baptism Engages us against Sin Betimes We are prepossess'd with a happy Prejudice against Sin in our Early Years and this is a great advantage When Hannibal was but 9 years Old his Father made him la● his hand upon the Altar and Swear that he would be an Irreconcilable Enemy to the Romans And this was the Reason he would never admit of any Peace with them My Friends we were Engaged for God against Sin and the Devil as our Irreconcilable Enemies not at 9 Years Old but in our Infant State and this obliges us to maintain a constant Enmity against them for ever 7. Infant Baptism is a great Encouragement for Faith in Prayer with Respect to our Children Those that have dedicated their Children to God in Baptism may pray to God with larger Measures of Faith and Hope than such as have Neglected this Duty They may say Lord I have resign'd them up unto thee Brought them to thine Authoriz'd Representative to be listed into thy Family consented for them to the claims of thy Covenant and the token of thy Covenant hath been apply'd to them let the Promises of thy Covenant be made good to them They are call'd by thy Name do thou receive them They are Visible Members of thy Church Oh give them the Favours that belong to thy Children A Visible Relation to God is a good Encouragement for Faith in Prayer We are call'd by thy Name Thou bearest not Rule over them Ier. 14.9 Those that have not thus dedicated their Children to God can only say Lord be Merciful to them tho' they are not call'd by thy Name and make them thine But we have a better Plea and can say Lord they are call'd by thy Name 8. Infant Baptism adds to the Parents comfort They may comfortably hope as to their living seed that if they are Faithful in training them up for God he will according to his promise Is. 44.3 pour out his Spirit and Blessing upon them and as to those that die in an Infant State they have Reason to Believe and hope that they are happy because God hath promis'd to be a God to them and to their seed Whereas those that Neglect this ordinance have no more Reason to hope for the Salvation of their Infants than the Heathens must only leave them to the unfathomable depths of Gods Goodness having no promise to rely upon 4. I shall answer some Principal Objections against this Truth 1. There is no Precept nor Example for Infant Baptism in all the New Testament This is