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A43627 The lay-clergy, or, The lay-elder in a short essay in answer to this query : whether it be lawful for persons in holy orders to exercise temporal offices, honours, jurisdictions and authorities : with arguments and objections on both sides, poyz'd and indifferently weigh'd / by Edm. Hickeringil ... Hickeringill, Edmund, 1631-1708. 1695 (1695) Wing H1818; ESTC R10850 22,034 36

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Josh 8.31 Moses the Servant of the Lord commanded c. We must have none but Pagans and Heathens Atheists and Debauchees for Kings and Magistrates if we exclude all the Disciples and Servants of Christ for one and all exclude one exclude all and for the same Reasons Besides the distinction of Lay-men and Clergy-men are names of Distinction that God never made but quite contrary those that we call Lay-People are more especially called Clergy or God's Flock or God's Lot or God's Inheritance 1 Pet. 5.2 3. where St. Peter whom we call a Clergy-man Commands the Bishops Elders or Priests whom we also call Clergy-men to feed the Flock of God and not to Lord it over God's Clergy or God's Inheritance viz. over them which we contrarily call Lay-men And the Statute Hen. 8.21 13. calls Lay fee. Pride and Popery first made this Distinction making an Impropriation of the name Clergy or God's-lot to the Divines who called themselves also Spiritual Persons and Ecclesiastical Persons and Church-men as if God had no Church-men but Cassock-men nor any Saints but such as are in Holy Orders And what I pray is entring into Holy Orders Other than being Commission'd or Authorized to do such and such Acts by men of authority so to Ordain thus the King Ordains Judges and Justices by Commission Judges Ordains Gentlemen in the Country to Represent themselves in many cases by taking Fines Depositions c. By Commission too or Dedimus Potestatem The King Ordains or orders the Dean and Chapter to Elect A. B. to be a Bishop The Conge deslyer is a mandamus The Patron Orders or Ordains or appoints a man to such a Benefice if the Bishop do not accordingly give him Institution a Writ of Quare Impedit lies against him so that the Bishop in such cases can neither will nor chuse but if the person Presented be Literatus and according to the late Acts of Parliament in Holy Orders which we call Ordination but really and truly the Presentation is the Ordination or Order that Entitles him with the Bishops Institution to jus ad rem and in course the Archdeancon's Induction gives him Livery and Seizin or jus in re and Possession All this is called Holy Orders and so Prayers and hearing the Word are called Holy matters and Holy things because they more immediately relate to Communion with God but I understand not how Prayers in a Clergy-man is more Holy than Prayers in a Lay-man nor how Preaching is more Sacred than Hearing It is all God's Service and they that exercise the same are his immediate Servants one as much as another if their Faith and Devotion be equal Obj. But why did not Christ accept the Temporal Office and Honor of being a Judg I answer by another question why is not every man you meet a Judg and an Award's man to decide and determin all your Controversies Your Answer must be the same with mine to the said Quaere namely He never had a Commission a Dedimus Potestatem an Authority to make such an Award to divide or decide any such Inheritance or controversy as neither had Jesus Christ in the Days of his Humiliation for that he came to suffer for the sins of the World he could have been born of a Queen but he chose to be Born of a Poor Woman in a poorer Equipage than any and as he was born poor even so he liv'd and so he dyed and it was necessary as it was Proyhecyed of him that he should be a man of Sorrows and acquainted with Grief despised and rejected of men oppressed and afflicted he was brought as a Lamb to the Slaughter for it pleased the Lord to bruise him he hath put him to grief making his Soul an Offering for Sin c. Now observe the Vanity of these Rump Orators and Logicians would you Christian Magistrates and Ministers of Christ be above or better than your Master He was poor and had not an House of his own to hide his head in neither would you if you be his true Disciples and Servants for the Servant is not greater than his Lord you should be poor as your Master All this fine Rhetorick if any were so silly to use it did not prevail with St. John to part with his Estate his House or his Home our blessed Saviour on the Cross took notice of it and therefore recommended his Mother to his Care and Provision and from that very hour that beloved Disciple carryed her to his own home It was well he had a Home and to put it to so good an use it was more than his Master had who had not so much as the Birds have 〈…〉 Nest an Home some men will be Interpreters of Holy Writ and consider nocircumstances which alter the 〈…〉 There was a time when Christ sent his Disciples out without purse or scrip and bare-foot that is in the time of his Humiliation But when that was accomplished or upon Finishing he gives them new Orders Luke 22.35 36. But now saith Christ He that hath a purse let him take it and likewise his scrip and he that hath no sword let him sell his Garment and buy one Whereby they had a plainer Commission to wear a Sword than to wear a Cassock And to want this rather than that Another brisk Oratour and Logician in that Parliament against Clergy-men's exercising temporal Jurisdiction argues thus Obj. 3. From 2 Tim. 2.4 No man that warreth Obj. 3 entangleth himself with the Affairs of this Life that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a Souldier Answ Answ What 's this to Clergy-men more than to all other Christians No Man no good Christian-man 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 implicatur is entangled in the Affairs of this Life It is not so well Translated as commonly entangles himself but is entangled 't is a passiue not an active word and spoken of them Qui tricis laqueis quibusdam implicantur that are snared or fetter'd with or in the things of this Life catch't by the Foot so that they cannot go It is a word used by St. Peter 2 Pet. 2.20 concerning such as are once Converted and have thereby escaped the snares and pollutions of the World and are again entangled or snar'd So that St. Paul to Timothy only advises that no man no good Christian man that hath escaped the snares and pollutions of the World should again be entangled and ensnared therein no God forbid It is just like that of our blessed Saviours Prayer John 17.15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the World but that thou shouldest keep them from the Evil. And all this is but the Daty and should be the endeavour of every good Christian tho he live in the World yet to keep himself unspotted from the World Agur's Prayer Prov. 30.8 is excellent to this purpose give me neither Riches nor Poverty feed me with Food convenient for me lest I be full and deny thee and say