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A29572 Two speeches of George, Earl of Bristol, with some observations upon them by which it may appear whether or no the said Earl and others of the same principles, deserve to be involved in the common calamity brought upon Roman Catholicks, by the folly and presumption of some few factious papists.; Speeches. Selections Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677. 1674 (1674) Wing B4786; ESTC R11516 12,016 34

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Two SPEECHES OF GEORGE Earl of BRISTOL With some observations upon them By which it may appear whether or no the said Earl and others of the same principles deserve to be involved in the Common Calamity brought upon Roman Catholicks by the folly and presumption of some few factious PAPISTS LONDON Printed in the year 1674 Reader BEing a Roman Catholick agreeing in principles with what George Earl of Bristol hath of late publickly declared of himself in Parliament I could hardly bear with patience the injurious censures and uncharitable constructions made of a speech of the said Honourable Persons in the House of Peers by divers of the same Communion though of a differing stamp in relation to Government They did their best to have it understood that the persecution which seem`d to threaten Catholicks had whetted that Earls wit to find out specious and plausible distinctions betwixt Catholick and Catholick whereby to exempt himself from the inconveniencies likely to fall upon the generality of that profession Distinctions which in them selves they said had no solid grounds of discrimination and that his sentiments express`d therein were adapted only to the present occasion The publishing of the said Speech in Print I thought wonld be a service to the Publick as well as a Justice to that Lord wherein his distinction of Catholicks of the Church of Rome from Catholicks of the Court of Rome will certainly appear a right and a reasonable one Concerning which if the Reader rest not satisfied but will needs descend to particular differences he is referred to a dedication of a book lately published in Print and directed to all Catholicks of His Majesties Dominions by one Peter Walsh a Franciscan Fryer wherein the chief imposals of the Court of Rome upon the more orthodox Doctrines of the Church of Rome are faithfully and learnedly exposed Now as to the second part of their detraction I thought the injuriousness of it could not better be made appear then by Printing also another Speech of the said Earls made to the House of Commons many years since wherein the self-same sentiments were eminently declared by him at a time when Roman Catholicks were as free from Alarums of any new persecution as ever they have been during any Session of Parliament A Speech of GEORGE Earl of BRISTOLS made to the house of PEERS at the First reading of the Bill against Popery upon Saturday the fifteenth of March 167 2 3 The King being then present My Lords I Am very sensible to what inconveniences a man of my perswasion exposes himself that offers to speak especially to break the Ice first to a Bill of this Nature brought up to you from the great representative of the Commons of England a Bill which those of my own profession may possibly think so severe and most Protestants so necessary If I speak for the passing of this Bill it is likely I may give scandal to the first and if I speak against the passing of it it is certain I shall give high provocation to the latter And if I speak for some parts of it and against some others I may have cause to fear that I may offend both sides the usual fate of those who affect to shew their subtilty by cutting a Feather as we say well my Lords so be it let what will befall me upon this occasion I shall still have within me a consolation above even the power of an Act of Parliament to take from me I mean the testimony of a good conscience of having discharged the duty of a Peer of this house in so eminent a conjuncture clearly and candidly according to the best of my understanding Yet still with most humble submission to the superiority of yours My Lords before I enter upon the matter give me leave to tell those Lords of my own Profession that hear me what I think their duty as well as mine if any of them shall think fit to speak in this house upon this occasion My Lords I do understand that how different so ever our sentiments are from your Lordships in point of Doctrine and questions spiritual we ought to lay the consideration of them all aside in this place and to speak in it not as Roman Catholicks but as faithful members of a Protestant Parliament And as such give a preferrence before all temporal interests of our own to the right interest of the State under whose protection we live resting confident that whatever part of our ease and conveniences in this world we shall willingly sacrifice to the Peace and security of our Countrey will one way or other be recompensed unto us by Almighty God either in this or in the other Now my Lords as to the rest of this most honourable assembly give me leave to remind you what kind of Catholick I told you the other day I am that is a Catholick of the Church of Rome not a Catholick of the Court of Rome A distinction if I am not much deceived worthy of your memory and reflection when ever any severe proceeding against those whom you call Papists shall come in question since Catholicks of the Court of Rome do only deserve that name My Lords I could easily make clear unto you the reality and the reasonableness of this distinction by instances in matter of opinion did I not think it always impertinent to trouble this house with points of controversie but I shall only take the liberty to evidence the justness of the distinction to you by a Personal instance Fra. Paulo my Lords who writ so shrewdly the History of the Counsel of Trent I am sure will never pass with any body that hath read him for a Catholick of the Court of Rome the artifices and abuses of which he hath exposed to the world in such lively colours and painted them out in Figures give me leave to say even bigger then the life and yet this Fra. Paulo my Lords dyed piously and devoutly a steady Catholick of the Church of Rome such as I trust God will give me the grace to do were I put to the bloodiest tryal such a Catholick my Lords I am and as such I make no doubt but I shall live to do Roman Catholicks more service and procure them more advantages from the comiseration of this Parliament then all the unquiet spirits or rabbi-busies of the Court of Rome And now my Lords I come to speak to the matter of this Bill which I shall do at this time generally and at large reserving my self as to perticulars till it be read by Paragraphs yet thus much I cannot forbear telling you now that there are some perticulars in this Bill as those of the Queens and Duke of Yorks domestick servants which while I have a tongue to speak and a right to use it here I shall ever oppose until I shall find my self bound up by your Lordships determination In the first place my Lords I beseech you to consider that this Bill for
the securing of general fears is brought up to you from the house of Commons the great representative of the people and consequently the best Judges of the true temper of the Nation A house of Commons surpassing all that ever hath been in the illustrious marks of their duty loyalty and affection to their Soveraign both in his Person and government Such a house of Commons as His Majestie ought to consider and cherish always with such a kind of love as is due to a VVife never to be parted with unkindly and not as to a Mistriss to be turned off when our turn is served by her My Lords this casual mention of a VVife suggests to my thoughts a pursuance of the comparison apt enough me thinks I have observed in the course of my life that men who have VVives somewhat coquettes that is a little subject to gallantrys live easier lives with them and freer from troublesome contentions then those who have VVives of exact and rigid vertue and the reason of it is clear For the more gamesome Dames being conscious of their failings in that essential part are carefull to disguise and repair them by kind and tender compliances with their Husbands humour in all other things whereas VVives severely punctual and exact in the chief Matrimonial duty expect and even exact far greater compliances from their Husbands and think themselves as it were priviledged by the rigidness of their vertue to be somtimes troublesome in domestick affairs But especially if Jealousie be en campagne as the French phrase is In like manner my Lords it is not to be much wondred at if this incomparable house of Commons transcending all that ever was in the grand essentials of duty loyalty and affection to their King should be at sometimes a little troublesome to him in lesser occurrences especially when once fears and jealousies are on wing My Lords I shall not pretend to determine whether there hath been any just grounds given or no by the rabbi-busies aforementioned or by the unseasonable ambition of any Roman Catholicks for such fears and jealousies It suffices to exact the necessity of a timely remedy that they have indeed most violently seized and distempred the minds of the Major part of His Majesties Protestant subjects which certainly no man conversant in the world can deny Now my Lords in popular fears and apprehensions those usually prove most dangerous that are raised upon grounds not well understood and may he rightly resembled to the fatal effects of panick fears in Armies where I have seldome seen great disorders arrive from intelligences brought in by parties and by scouts or by Advertisements to Generals But from alarums upon groundless and capritious fears of danger taken up we know not either how or why no man of moderate experience in military affairs but hath found at one time or other the dangerous effects in the giving a stop to which mifchiefs the skill of great Commanders is best seen In like manner my Lords this great and juditious assembly of the house of Commons rightly sensible of the dangerous effect which so general a disturbance of Mens minds in the concernments of Religion how groundless soever might produce have applied their cares to obviate them by this Bill a Bill in my opinion as full of moderation towards Catholicks as of prudence and security towards the Religion of the State In this Bill my Lords notwithstanding all the alarums of the encrease of Popery and designs of Papists here is no mention of barring them from private and modest exercise of their Religion no banishing them from such a distance from Court no putting in execution of penal Laws in force against them all their precautions are reduced to this one intent natural to all societies of Men of hindring a lesser opposite party from growing too strong for the greater and more considerable one and in this way of just prevention is not the moderation of the house of Commons to be admired that they have restrained it to this sole point of debarring their adversaries from Offices and Places and from accessions of wealth by favour of the Soveraign They considered well that wealth and power from publique charges and imployments do range the generality of men to opinions and parties more strongly farr then all other arguments according to the saying of Eneas Silvius himself a Pope That the Popes superiority over general Counsels would ever find most Doctors for it because the Pope had so many Bishop-ricks to give the Counsells none I say my Lords that in contemplation hereof the wisdome of the house of Commons has wholly applied its care in this Bill to hinder as appears most reasonable those of an opposite party from a Part in the government of that State under whose protection they live It is true my Lords some Roman Catholicks may seem to be put to extraordinary tests in this Act and such as upon the score of Conscience as a Roman Catholick I shall give my negative to But speaking as a Member of a Protestant Parliament I cannot but think prudent and reasonable in the proposers their end being solidly to secure the fears of those they represent And after all my Lords how few do the sharp trials and tests of this Act regard only a few such Roman Catholicks as would fain hold Offices and Places at the price of hypocrisie and dissimulation of their true sentiments in Religion My Lords I am none of those none of those wherry-men in religion who look one way and row another I have had the honour to exercise a great charge of state under the last King of blessed memory and to continue the same under our most gratious Soveraign that is now till it pleased Almighty God to call me even at the Article of death to that religion wherein I trust he will give me the grace to live and dye what danger soever may be set before me But after that call my first work my Lords was to deliver up the Seals to the King uncomanded as judging it unfit though then in a Catholick Country for any man of a different religion from his Prince to exercise a charge of that importance under him and I am now my Lords much more of that opinion then ever Upon the whole matter my Lords however the sentiments of a Catholick of the Church of Rome I still say not of the Court of Rome nay oblige me upon scruple of Conscience in some perticulars of this Bill to give my negative to it when it comes to the passing yet as a Member of a Protestant Parliament my advice prudentially cannot but go along with the main scope of it The present circumstances of time and affairs considered and the necessity of composing the disturbed minds of the people It may be said my Lords that some things in this Bill seem to trench upon His Majesties Prerogative and his inherent power of pardoning and suspending prosecutions My Lords that Inherent power