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A47921 The state and interest of the nation, with respect to His Royal Highness the Duke of York discours'd at large, in a letter to a member of the Honourable House of Commons. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1680 (1680) Wing L1309; ESTC R7627 19,626 35

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for the Lord of Hosts when they intend Self-Interest to keep up a party an Affected way or to be the Ipse dixit of a County Religion has not at all prosper'd by undue practices to advance it 'T is Meekness Patience Humility and those Graces of the Spirit that Convince and Convert when Rigidness Censuring and the Sword Exasperate and Harden Has not Gods power or truth Evidence to secure it self Let but the Gospel have Free passage and it will make its own stay For all true Protestants do unanimously disown the Promotion of it by the Sword as totally Unchristian and bequeath it to the Pope and the Turk Was not now the maintenance of our Fundamental Laws the pretence of our late Quarrel Found we not the Spirit of the Nation rouz'd up upon the sound of the Trumpet Popery was it not decry'd and Religion Protestant Religion judg'd to be in danger Were we not call'd out to the Battle upon the account of Zeal with Curse ye Meroz And yet under our Free Estate as they call'd it our Religion so much of it especially as could any way be term'd Protestant turn'd into Wantonness and our Divisions became so great that we durst not exasperate by advancing that Idol of the Presbyters Discipline nor indeed could we if we durst for the most active of our Statists if they had any Religion at all 't was that of the Sectary which they own'd as the main Supporter of their Model whose Interest it was to give Licentiousness to all As for Laws those which we ador'd for Excellency and Antiquity they were by them of necessity alter'd in our Freedoms of Person and Estate wherein true Liberty is principally concern'd For when the House of Commons or rather the Rump of it engross'd the Soveraign Power they both Imposed Taxes and Levy'd them by vertue of a trifling Ordinance which could never be done before but by an Act of Parliament solemnly and regularly pass'd by the King and the Three Estates And having of Tribunes of the people as it were and their Bulwark against High Payments and Impressures demanded by the King advanc'd themselves into the degree of Princes they took upon them to assess and impress us at pleasure and we might complain as long as we would of the Reiterated Burthen but there was no remedy but Patience because no Appeal left us themselves being both Parties and Judges I COULD heartily wish there were at present no more reason to be apprehensive of Popery coming amongst us then there was in those days But yet let his Royal Highness's Perswasion be what it will this I'm sure of that Dr. Oates has deposed upon Oath that the Jesuits were so far from saying or acting Indifferently as to his Person that in their Hellish Plot they had mark'd him out also for Slaughter with his most Royal most Protestant Brother Now the late Marquess of Argyle was wont to lay it down as a Principle in Policy That it was the Character of a wise man not to let the World know what Religion he was of But for my own part I cannot in Charity but hope the best of a Person till I shall be convinc'd of the contrary by more certain and positive Arguments then any that I have yet been able to meet with that has been so Lectur'd and Tutor'd by our late Glorious Martyr as well as by Experience into a Veneration for and a Perseverance in that Pure Reformed Religion the Principles of which he suck'd in with his very Milk and in Defence of which his ever Blessed Father laid down his most precious Life upon a Scaffold You may read his words thus I do require you addressing to his present Majesty as your Father and your King that you never suffer your Heart to receive the least Check against or Dis-affection from the True Religion establish'd in the Church of England I tell you I have try'd it and after much Search and many Disputes have concluded it to be the best in the World not only in the Community as Christian but also in the special Notion as Reformed keeping the middle way between the Pomp of Superstitious Tyranny and the Meanness of Phantastick Anarchy c. To this sence spake he when he had no more to speak Nay and so zealous this way was our English Solomon the Duke's Grandfather King James that rather then any of his Progeny should ever come to be tainted with the Errors and Idolatries of the Church of Rome he made it his Prayer to Almighty God that they might be taken out of the World first AS to the apprehensions of Tyranny I hope by what I have already deliver'd in the Body of this Discourse it is evident that there is less ground to fear it then many people might before imagine for that it is next to an Impossibility to introduce it And upon probable grounds I perswade my self that should the Duke ever have the occasion offer'd yet would he be wiser then to make tryal of the Experiment knowing so well as he must needs do that should the English Liberties be violated in the example but of any one single Person the whole Nation would take it self to be concern'd upon that account apprehend it self ready for the Fetters and thereby what with Fear what with Hate such a Storm would be rais'd as might shake the surest Foundations of the Government and so very much has Majesty already felt by the Fury of the People that it will be chary doubtless of giving occasion to encounter it again BUT 't is farther Objected it seems that there is a Vindictive and Implacable Spirit in the Case Now this is most manifest indeed that there have been Provocations to the height but shall we therefore continue to provoke because we have begun 'T is a Rule you know that he that does wrong never forgives but he that has wrong may The Interest of Revenge is passionate but the Interest of Profit arises from a Passion that prevails more and he is very weak that anteposes Rumour and vain Passion when it stands in Competition with his Safety To speak home Interest rules the whole World and Princes as others design more the security of their own Greatness then a petty Revenge that may hazard it But for this search we the Experiences of past Ages Henry the Great of France was so far from punishing any of the holy League that labour'd by all means possible to keep him from his Right and to murther him that on the contrary he imploy'd those very Persons that were his main Opposites in his Armies in his Offices and in his Councels And what shall we say of King James who sent Messages made Vows menac'd Revenge and all to prevent that fatal Stroke from falling upon his Mother the Queen of Scots under Queen Eliz. but to no effect Observe the Issue now Shortly Q. Eliz. dies and those very Lords that acted personally in the Mothers Death were the most
forward to court the Son to the Crown and he became establish'd with all Prerogatives incident to the English Scepter What Acts he in the way of Revenge No he like a wise Prince feeling the Warmth of so Rich a Climate is so passionate to confirm his own Greatness that he not only forgets the Injury of his Mother but manages his great Affairs by the hands of those very Persons that were Contrivers of it yet through Her Bloud did he derive his Title Nor do we read of one of these Nobles or their Issue that suffer'd Diminution by any Resentment upon that account His wise Father also that had been beaten into the knowledge of the English Spirit writes thus Let no Passion my Son betray you to any study of Revenge upon Those whose Own Sin and Folly will sufficiently Punish theu in due Time Be confident that most of all Sides that have done Amiss have done so not out of Malice but Mis-information or Mis-apprehension of Things None will be more Loyal to Me or You then those Subjects who sensible of Their Errors and Our Injuries will feel in their own Souls most Vehement Motions to Repentance and earnest Defires to make some Reparations for their former Desects c. The like said he at his Last Hour But what do we Doubt or Distrust May we not have a Protestant Parliament upon all Exigencies and the disposal of Commands and Offices secure to us for a Time in case of His Majesties decease Have we not a Protestant Councel a Protestant Militia a Protestant Clergy and a Protestant People what can we in reason desire more § 7. AS to the Project of erecting a Cracht Title or a Single Person of another Line over and above the Heinousness and Impiety of the Proposition and to wave tedious Canvassings That must unquestionably be the most Desperate of all other Remedies and infinitely worse then the Disease it self For Thereby we should set on Foot a personal Quarrel and at the Long Run beyond measure Disgust the Spirits of this Generous People in that they will then be Subjected to their Equal who to retain his Usurpation will be forc'd to repeat and accumulate those Violences whereof we had most woful Experience under the Old Protector Otherwise he will soon be made the Object of our Contempt as was his Son with his Easie and Gentle way of Acting and his Name be used only as a Cloak to cover the Avarice and Exorbitances of a Ravenous Faction Nor can This Project prevent a Relapse into our former Calamities because our Fears will ever be Great and Continual and consequently our Charge proportionable In a word all the Evils and Miseries that were brought upon us by the Army the Rump and by all other Architects of our Slavery in the Late Times will certainly be found Tolerable compared with the Probable and Genuine Effects of such a Desperate and Unchristian Proceeding § 8. YOU will not expect from me I 'm sure Sir that I should so acquit my self of every Objection as to leave all men satisfy'd especially such as carry a Byass of Preferment Profit or Faction Men that have in Design Exorbitances of Power or Wealth will hardly with Arguments be reclaimed And some there are I know that have so long possess'd their Heads with strong Notions that they are not capable to take in Reason against them and thereupon run on Frantique in Error till there be a Rotation in their Brains Such there are that with Confidence so often have told a Lye that at length themselves believe it to be a Truth But we shall be too wise I 'm sure should ever that day come to preferr the Interest or Wilfulness of a Few to the Safety and Welfare of the Whole I shall not deny yet that it is easier to demonstrate what may be Evil then positively to assert what will be Good but however comparing Times with Things as is above represented I doubt not to Evidence that to keep where we are and to be contented with our Lot is a Course much rather to be embrac'd as that which in great Probability may be Good then by pushing at Incertainties to pull down most lamentable Confusions and Desolations upon our own Heads which certainly will be Evil I therefore ever was and still am of opinion that it is both our Interest and our Duty to embrace with Open Arms the ample generous Offers of his most Gracious Majesty in order to Provisions for our future Security in point of Freedom and Religion As for the Rest let us but have our Good Old Laws duly put in Execution and then by Gods assistance we shall be in a Capacity to Defie the Pope the Devil and all their Works come what will come § 9. Thus Sir have I run through the several Heads that you were pleased to propound I have in the First place given you my Reasons why I conceive the Project of Fixing a Free-Estate as your Friend thinks fit to term it here amongst us would be utterly Impracticable I have in the next place presented you with a Summary of those Mischiefs and Distractions which were the Consequents of a Like Attempt from 1640. to 1660. In the Third place you find the Natural Bent and Inclination of the People to Monarchy exclusively of any other Form of Regiment whatsoever fully demonstrated the Royal Prerogative Anatomiz'd and an Account of those great Immunities Blessings and Priviledges which the English do at this day enjoy under the present Government Establish'd both Ecclesiastical and Civil peculiarly and above any other People or Nation in the known World The Fourth rips up the Ground of our Fears and Jealousies of Popery and Arbitrary Power flowing in upon us should the Duke of York ever come to Sway the English Scepter and furnishes Arguments for the moderating and lessening our Apprehensions as to the One and for the proving the almost Impossibility of Effecting the Other were there never so great a Will and Disposition that way In the Fifth place you have represented the Danger and Impiety of Erecting a Crackt Title or a Single Person of a New Line together with the probable Calamitous Effects that would inevitably ensue upon such an Attempt And Lastly I have presum'd to offer my own Expedient in reference to the Security of our Religion and Freedoms for the Present and for the Future Upon the Whole Matter if by what I have written I be so fortunate as to make your Friend a Convert 't will be an Infinite Satisfaction to me because thereby I may hope to save a Soul but at the worst I may say with the Text that I shall hide a multitude of Sins Now should I frame twenty Excuses to you for the Length the Inequality the Insufficiency the Incoherence the Freedom the Extravagant Rovings and Impertinencies the Unskilful Management nay and for the Boldness and Presumption of this Discourse But I have neither Will nor Leisure to Trifle at such a rate I am conscious to my self no man more of my great want of Abilities requisite for an Undertaking of such Weight and Importance only I was resolv'd to let you see that no Considerations whatsoever were of force with me to withstand the Authority of your Commands I have unbosom'd my self to you Sir under the protection of a Private Letter with all the Frankness and Simplicity imaginable not doubting but you will make such use of it as may not redound to the Disadvantage of Sir Your most Obedient Servant Feb. 21. 1679 80.