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A36790 The antient usage in bearing of such ensigns of honour as are commonly call'd arms with a catalogue of the present nobility of England / by William Dugdale ... ; to which is added, a catalogue of the present nobility of Scotland and Ireland, &c. Dugdale, William, Sir, 1605-1686. 1682 (1682) Wing D2478; ESTC R231444 71,213 227

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de Vallence Earl of Penbrooke by whom he had issue John Hastings after Earl of Penbrooke Elizabeth married to Roger Lord Gray of Ruthin and some other children which needs not to be spoken of for that as I take it all the lines of them fail'd before the extinguishing of the line of the said John Earl of Penbrooke After such issue being had the said Izabel Vallence died and the said John Lord Hastings took to a second wife Izabel the Daughter of Hugh Spenser by whom he had issue Hugh Hastings and Thomas and then died and left as heir John his son by his first Wife who was Earl of Penbrooke as I have said erected by reason of his mothers inheritance which John Earl of Penbrooke married and had issue another Earl of Penbrooke who also married and had issue a third Earl of Penbrooke but in the end all the line of the said John Hastings first Earl of Penbrooke of that family failing there arose a question betwixt the Heirs of Roger Gray and Elizabeth his wife being sister of the whole blood and the Heirs of Hugh Hastings brother of the half blood to the said John Earl of Penbrooke for the inheritance of the Hastings But Gray recovering the same by the law that saith Possessio fratris de feodo simplici facit sororem esse haeredem called the said Hastings also having removed the difference of his mark for that he was then heir male of that house into the Court of chevalry and there having a judgement against him the said Hastings was compelled to use a Difference which was a Label of silver upon his mark a fair red sleeve of his Ladies upon his golden vesture since which the heirs of that younger family have used the said Labell even until this our age So that you may see by this that the law was then taken to be such that such an heir male as had not the inheritance of his Ancestors should not be suffered to bear his mark without distinction for it should seem by this that the issue of them that had married the heir general of any family being by reason thereof possessed of the lands had not only an interest in the Arms but might also forbid any man the bearing thereof There is also another matter out of square which is that every man that obtaineth large possessions whether the same be acquired by his judgment in law traffick in merchandize or any other mean yea although never any of his progenitors from whom he can derive himself had the charge to lead men of Arms will yet at this day intrude themselves into the Badges and marks of souldiers for although such as be descended from men of martial discipline have an interest in their ancestors marks amongst other their goods and therefore may shew forth the same to their predecessors glory and their own in respect of their descent yet such men as rise by their sciences judgments or skill in other arts affairs or trades although they be to be reverenced for their wisdom and praiseful actions and had in honour answerable to their vertues and dignities have yet little to do with the marks or Badges of soldiers For altho a reverend Judg that hath ministred law and justice a long time and that so long as that thereby to his great glory he hath obtained reputation wealth and revenue is to be had in high estimation and in respect thereof to have allow'd him some note or mark of Honour fit for his calling yot to my simple judgment the same should be disposed unto him after the old Roman order by signifying the manner of his rising rather then to put a corselet on his back a Burgonet on his head a Target on his Arm and a Sword by his side being things that would cumber greatly the good old man to use either for his own defence or but to shew by way of triumph for his glory sithence neither is it tolerable by reason of his age nor in his youth did he exercise himself in welding thereof And as these things are unseeming for him to wear no more can I see any reason why he should deck up the moniments of his house with such signs or tokens except he can derive himself from an ancestor that hath had the use of such things and then to set them sorth as a glory to his deceased parent will greatly augment the regard of his rising which rising yet of it self is a sufficient Honour the same being by any just vertuous or laudable means And these new risings I could wish to be of more reputation then they seem to be esteem'd of either by others or themselves that so rise as is apparent by many of their doings who intrude themselves into marks of Antiquity and setting forth of descents wherein they are yet fain many times either to counterfet or else to derive themselves from some poor parents which they either truly or by surmize alledge to have descended from some antient family and that have been by some accident or other in former time decayed wherein me thinks men do greatly mistake the matter for that in my opinion a man that is but of mean parentage and riseth by commendable means is equivalent to him that riseth from a decayed family namely when his said parent hath been overthrown for offence as many times they alleadge in plain terms And I could wish that every man that raiseth a House by his good industry should be honoured with some such Badge or Mark as should be answerable to the quality of his rising and not every man of what condition soever they be to entrude themselves into the signs and marks of souldiers and such as follow the field with martial exploits Some people also there are that be so precise as that they do disallow altogether the setting forth of any memory of well deserving men which have shewed themselves valiant either in the act of Religion their Princes service or defence of their Country neither allowing their posterity to set forth any memory of their praises nor suffering any monuments or garnishments to remain of their Burials as tho it were a matter offensive to God to have good men well spoken of or their valorous doings by their obsequies either reverenc'd or by any records remembred To such men I have not thought it amiss to shew them their error by directing them to such places of Scripture as do not only tolerate and allow of such actions but also praise and commend the doing thereof and in some sort charge and command the same to be done whereby both they may if they be not obstinate reform their misconceived opinions and others may be fortifyed in their praiseful endeavours towards the honouring of vertuous and worthy men to the animating of posterity to imitate their laudable actions sithence indeed the chiefest matter that stirreth up men to do well next their zeal to God and the love of vertue it self is
Powick and Beauchamp of St. Amand. Of Nevill Earl of Westmorland Nevill Earl of Salisbury Nevill Earl of Warwick Nevill Lord Latimer Nevil Lord Abergaveny Of Stafford Duke of Buckingham Stafford of Pipe Stafford of Bromshull both in Staffordshire Stafford of Graston in Worcestershire Stafford of Haske in com Dorset and Stafford of Blatherwick in com Northampton Of Berkley Lord Berkley of Berkley-castle in com Glouc. Berkly of Beverston in the same County Berkley of Bruton in com Somerset and Berkley of Wymundham in com Leic. Of Cobham Lord Cobham of Cobham in Kent Cobham of Sterborough in Surrey Cobham of Black-burgh in com Devon and Cobham of Belmerle in com Cantii Of Radcliffe Earl of Sussex Radcliffe of Smethels Radcliffe of Drdsale and Radcliffe of Chaderton All retaining the original Armes but distinguisht by various eminent differences Likewise of Noell Vicount Campden Noell of Kirkby in Leicestershire Noell of Hilcote and Noell of Pelshall both in Stafforshire and others of that Antient family Thus have I set down unto you though something tediously the use that antiquity followed in a very glorious line for Lords Knights and Gentlemen which flourished divers hundreds of years sithence And you may see that these men though they were many of them great Barons were not ashamed of their Differences but laid them forth largely to the view neither do I esteem it a shame whereby any man should covet to hide the same to be descended as a younger Brother sithence that every Brother having the like parents is as well descended as the eldest and therefore as good a Gentleman though not so rich as he And the more is his honour if without the help which by reason of his patrimony the elder hath he can advance himself into place of office or dignity whereby he may raise an other flourishing family of the same surname and therefere you my masters that be younger Brothers never hide your Differences by putting forth a little cressant or a peeping mollet but use some fair large device sithence in truth your estimation is by your rising to be had in as good a regard as if you were the elder And now being in speech of younger Brothers and their differences I have observed two kinds of them which antiquity used besides the aforesaid one was that such as were advanced by Kings Princes or other great Lords did many times bear some part of the device of him who advanced them by way of addition unto the mark of their own family which served very aptly to distinguish them from their elder house The other was that divers did add unto the mark of their own house some part of the device of that family from which their mothers descended and both these two kinds of differings are in my mind greatly to be commended not only for that they may be made large and apparent and for that cause serve very properly to the use for which Badges are ordained but also that the one makes manifest a greatful mind in him that is advanced to his prince or lord of whom he received benefit and by reason thereof linketh them together in a kind of amity which seldom or never is worn out and by that means a great strengthening it is unto both Houses The other not only serveth to unite the families which have matched together in the foresaid love and amity and thereby worketh the like effect but besides it sheweth the certainty of the descending of the said younger Brother out of both the said Houses and also giveth knowledg of the time thereof whereby if any title of inheritance be at any time cast upon the younger Brother either descending from ancestor of the fathers side or mothers it gives him a testimony of his title and witnesseth unto the world the truth of that descent by the continual bearing of that device so that this kind may many times work profit to the bearer and avoid many troubles and suits and therefore into one of these kind of differing● could I wish our younger Brothers which from henceforth shall be advanc'd to invest themselves as being both honourable fair certain and profitable But now it may be objected that the order in use sheweth plainly enough the diversity of Brothers as the cressant a second the mollet the third that by this means the matters are made certain To this I answer that first the time is not by this means signified neither can it be known which of the Cressant-bearers was the Uncle or Nephew And further it is a very usual matter for every new Riser at this day if he can find that there is any of the like Surname that beareth mark presently to usurp the same with a Cressant or some such difference so that for my own part I do seldom credit such kind of differings nor their bearers unless it be by some other testimony or proof made manifest which cannot be counterfetted so well in the other device except the riser should be throughly acquainted with the descent of him whose line he seeketh to intrude himself into And besides it may be the sooner espied by them of the true line and forbidden nor the other dare for fear thereof so soon venture the committing of a falsity But what a confusion is it when you shall see the second of a second Brother and sometimes an other second from him to cluster one Cressant upon an other many times three or four one on horseback upon an other where as by the aforesaid bearing of the difference from the Prince Lord or mothers family a man may better distinguish the Brothers and set down for a second a third and fourth c. And after from those again in a fairer larger and more apparent manner and the more apt am I to speak against these ordinary Differences as they are called knowing them to be but new inventions and any of them as ordinaries in Fashion as now they are never used before the time of King Henry the sixt before which time men were much more wary and discreet in bearing of their marks and in foreseeing that no intruders should enter into their families nor that any should lay away or remove their Differings without special warrant or license of them that thereby might be prejudiced for a Labell being much in use for the heire apparent to wear as his differeuce during his fathers life was seldom removed to the second Brother but when the inheritance went unto the daughters of the elder Brother and then the second was permitted to bear the same for his Difference as being the heire male of his family and as one that remained in expectancy yet might not the second Brother use to intrude himself into the absolute signs of his house the inheritance being in his neeces or kinswomen as appeared in the case between Gray of Ruthine and Hastings which was this John Lord Hastings married to his first wife Izabell one of the sisters and heires of Almery