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A89827	An answer to the booke called The perfect Pharisee under monkish holinesse: wherein is layd open, who they are that oppose the fundamentall principles of the doctrine of the Gospel, and the scripture practises, which the authors of that book would cast upon those they call Quakers, but are found to be themselves; who appear to be no ministers of the Gospel, but walke contrary to all that ever Christ sent forth in the scripture, scorning them who live the life of the scriptures, or are brought into the obedience of the same spirit. Published for no other end but to cleare the truth from the slanders of these men, who thereby goe about to deceive the simple, and keep them off from obedience to the truth. By one whom the world calls, James Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1654 (1654)	Wing N261; Thomason E735_2; ESTC R206955	29,772	36

thoughts but is a lye raysed up by the Father of lyes the Devill and vented by his servants to make the truth odious And the Lord God of truth before whom I stand judge between me and you in this thing for you are of that generation who say Come let us devise devises Ier. 18. 18. 20. 10. against him come let us smite him with the Tongue report say they and we will report it but the Lord will deliver his truth out of your hands And for William Baldwinson whom you father this untruth on I never had any private discourse with him nor ever was I in company where he was but once in Vnder●arrow where was the house full of people that I had never seen before and if he should affirme any such thing they of his owne Towne shall all witnesse against him but I stand to the witnesse of God Nor as it falls on my selfe should I have mentioned it but as it falls on the truth and may offend some weake ones who is more to me then all outward reputation in the World To your third That George Fox did affirme that he was the Iudre of the World And that one wrote from Carlile that called George Fox the Sonne of God I answer you here shew your selves to be ignorant of Christ spiritually borne up in you who is the Iudge of the world in whom he is which the Saints did witnesse as it is p●aine in the Scriptures Know you not that 1 Cor. 6. 2. 3. Saints shall Iudge the World Yea Angels and the spirituall man judgeth all things yet he himselfe is judged of no man Now you that have not this infallible spirit to judge with have nothing to doe to judge of the things of God but are carnall and naturall and judge with evill thoughts and call evill good and good evill for the naturall man receives not the things of the spirit of God and what you know naturally as bruite beasts therein you corrupt your selves and you that are offended that one shall witnesse the Sonne of God shew that you are ignorant of the New Birth which whosoever witnesses is the Sonne of God yea you are ignorant of the Scriptures which saith Behold with what manner of love the Father loved us that 1 Iohn 3. 1. 2. we should be called the Sons of God and we are Sons already and it doth not yet appeare what we shall be Now blush for shame that you should be Ministers of the letter and are ignoant of it and would slander them that owne it Now for your confused confutation of the lyes you have raysed against us I shall say nothing to them For that you call your second Position That there is no distinction of Persons in the God head This you say George Fox layes downe in Saul● errand to Damascus pag. 12. Now all may take notice if these men regard what they speake or write so that they can but make th● truth odious to others when they are not ashamed to Print so plaine an untruth that is so evident that all that ever read that page in Sauls errand may witnesse against them that the words they have set downe are not there but they have gathered them up in their inventions wherewith they imagine lyes against the innocent and to cast upon the truth neither have they any proofe for what they here accuse of For your third Position that ●h● soule is a part of the Divine Esse●ce And this you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 you had from Collonell Benson and Captain Ward W●●●●he sou●e is you know not who live in the fall and are v●●ne contenders and p●eaders for sin which keep● the soul● at a di●ance from God and while you are servants of sinne your soules are in death but the first man Adam was a living soule the second a quickning spirit and he that is joyned to the Lord is one ●pirit And this we witnesse and all witnesse it who are come up o●t of the fall but you who live in disobedience acting those things which Christ forbad knowes nothing of the living soule for you watch not for the good ●● soules for you seek for your gaine from your Quarter and ●●kes peoples money for that which is not Bread and all who fol●●● are unsatisfied but all you who hearken diligently to the voyce of the Lord their soules doe live and follow the Lord and are united to him and he that is not is against him For your fourth Position That Christ is in every man and in the reprobate he is held under corruption and this you say one of you received from Iames Nayler in conference with him wherein he extended the in-dwelling of Christ to Indians that never heard the Gospel I answer When will you cease to adde your lyes to slander withall That which I held forth was that Christ was the light of the world and lighteneth every one that commeth into the world which William Col● denyed I bad him put out one amongst all that great multitude that durst deny it He said those were Christians and had heard the Gospel but Indians had not that light I told him he went far for a proofe but if an Indian were there he would witnesse against him But O thou full of all subtilty Did I say th●t Christ in the reprobates is held under corruption let all that was there be witnesse against thee Now that Christ enlightens every one that comes into the world is plaine Scripture and if Christ be not in the most vile in the world there to see the heart thoughts and intents how shall he judge every one according to their thoughts that come not forth into actions as well as according to what they doe must he then proceed as carnall Iudges doe either by proofe or confession and no further and must not he judge Indians as well as others and who shall tell him what is in their hearts and thoughts Here you shew your selves ignorant of that Christ who is spirituall and judgeth not after the outward appearance but is all and in all and are of the judgment of some others of you who say that Christ is in Heaven with a carnall body but here is your folly manifest to all the Children of light And whereas you accuse Iohn Audland for writing to Edward Br●ggs and telling him That he who once had been enlightned and departed out of it did crucifie Iesus Christ within him I answer Reade Hebrews 6. 4 6. and see if the Apostle speake not the same words saying That such crucifie the Lord of life afresh and put him to open shame And that it is such a haynous thing to you who knowes not Christ in you for any to say that Christ is in them Was it not Iesus of Naz●reth that Paul persecuted when he hayled the Saints to Prison Acts 9. 4. 5. and was not Christ in the Saints the hope of glory and all this after his Assention But you who

candlesticke be removed by often sinning against it for the light of the wicked shall be put out and this is that light which testifies of Jesus and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of Prophesie and it is that more sure word of prophesie and light that shines in a darke place and leads to the day-star spoken of in 2 Peter 1. 19. to which he exhorts all to take heed though ye children of darkenesse cannot comprehend it and therefore deny it and tells people that we meane of the principles left in man since the fall and that we deny the Fountaine of living waters and goe not to Iesus for light and so by giving your false meanings upon our writings as you doe upon the Scriptures you cast lyes upon the truth and calls this light of Christ a naturall light and here you deny the Fountaine of light and would put it out that you might live in your deeds of darkenesse undiscovered as doth appear by all your twyning and cunning wynding and lying in that which you call confutation but who are guided by the true light may easily judge of your confused stuffe which I forbeare as not worth naming For your twelfth Position that there is no need of any outward teaching by reading or hearing the Scriptures opened and applyed I J●r 31. 31. 32 33. 34. answer The promise of the new covenant is That all the children of the Lord shall be taught of the Lord and they shall Heb. 8. 10. 11. not need that any teach his neighbour saying Know the Lord for all shall know him by his own teaching from the greatest to the least of them And for this end is Christ the light of the world the Shepheard and Bishop of soules and when he came he denyed all the hireling teachers and said they have nought to doe with the sheep for his sheep heare his voyce and will not follow the voyce of a stranger and he who knowes this teacher knowes him to be a sufficient teacher alone For who teache● like him who gives to every one seasonable food That Iohn Audland said No need of outward teaching is false the word was He needed no man to teach him the Lord was his teacher But you who know not this teacher apply the Scriptures to all hand over head and give the promises that is to the seed of God which seed is but one and is pure and these promises you give to them who are in the first birth still in their sins and so doubt with untempered morter and sowes pillowes under every armehole so that none turnes from their sins for you preach them up all beleevers except some that refuse to give you hire and them you prepare war against And whereas you alledge the teaching of the Apostles it is true they in whom Christ was risen the light and life and teacher they went out and Preached the Resurrection to others to gather all to this Teacher and told them that Christ was their light and life and exhorted them to waite for his appearance in them and that as he appeared their life should appeare with him and when they had directed them where to waite for teaching and gathered them out of the teachings of the hirelings they left them and went on to call more out of the world to this teacher and appointed the strong who were come to the teachings of Christ to take the oversight of the weake least there should be a turning through the deceipt of the false teachers and hirelings before they came to see the teachings of Christ and his appearing and such was not to keep a talking to them for filthy lucre but to watch over them of a ready minde neither did they take a verse of another mans condition and say to them Heare the Word of the Lord when the Lord had not spoken it to them but what was moved to be written to them by the holy Ghost was read to them without adding or diminishing and the same spirit hath the same workings now where it is in its measure which brings all things to our remembrance according to his mighty working in us And whereas you say that George Fox pretended to have all from within yet his jugling was discovered a Concordance being sent to him to help his memory I answer What the spirit did teach the Saints it doth teach them the same now within but the Scripture was not put in Chapter and Verse by the spirit but the hireling Priests have done it to trade withall and though for his owne teachings within he need no outward help yet having to doe with quoting Verses which was not by the spirit but in the invention he might use a Concordance not at all to adde to himselfe but to quote Scriptures to convince others And Scripture was used by Christ and his Apostles to convince gaine-sayers though they needed not use them in regard of themselves but had the same spirit that gave them forth and was taught by it and not by the letter And whereas you tell of your Ministry having undenyable seales of your ministration in the witnes of Christ therto begetting many soules to conversion I answer The witnesse of Christ is against you and your Ministry who came to set free from sin but you say men must commit sin while they live and be set free when they are dead Christ saith He that commits sinne is the servant of sinne and such are you and your converts For your thirteenth Position That the Scriptures are not the Word of God but a Declaration of the conditions of them that spoke them forth I answer The Scripture saith Christ is the word by whom all things were made was before all time which Word became flesh and dwelt in the Saints Now if the Scriptures be the Word which had their beginning since all were made and did not become flesh then there is two Words of God Now prove that in Scripture or that the Letter is called the Word in plaine words and the Apostle calls what he wro●e a Declaration 1 Iohn 1. 1. 2. 3. The things that we have heard and seen declare we unto you Now who denyes the Scriptures whether we that speake the plaine words as they are or you that deny them and would have us to beleeve your meanings and wrestings of them when you have no plain Scripture for what you say And whereas you say it cannot be understood to be the Word Christ that came to the Prophets Samuel Jeremy c. where it seems your understanding is not that with the Apostle who saith it was the spirit of Christ that was in them 1 Pet. 1 11. but all your wrestings will not cover your folly And you say what Christ and his Apostles Preached Spoke or Wrote was not Christ the Father or Spirit when as the Scripture saith That holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1. 21. And you say to say

accuser of the Saints of God I challenge thee and companion to prove what you have spoken against m● and not onely so but against all the Church of God who doth suffer by you who live in pride Dives-like And as for thee W. C. thou art made knowne to be of that generation which put the Saints to death but the Lord shall pleade with thee and give thee thy portion in utter darkenesse for ever As for Wallas your witnesse herein whom yee call a godly Minister he said in the hearing of many people That it was no murther in him to murther Christopher Atkinson and the rest of the Prisoners at Kendall being neere twenty now how this mans testimony may be trusted or that he would keep any thing backe that might adde to the slander any honest man may judge for the murtherer and the lyar are one and he that makes no conscience of the one makes none of the other But here as in the rest of your Book ye take up things from such hands and adde to them your owne inventions to make us vile in the sight of the people And for any going naked or being otherwise made signes and wonders to yee which ye charge as a great thing against us yee being ignorant of the power of God by which these men are acted any wise man may know these doe it not according to their owne wills but in obedience unto God which commands some have denyed to obey for which the heavy judgements of God have been layd upon them from which they could not be freed till they were made obedient as is well knowne in Kendall And now to your reasons why yee call us Pharisets Monkes and Fryars or any thing to render us most odious to all people which is no strange thing for us to receive from that seed from whence it coms neither doth is trouble us that the Scripture be fulfilled which saith As they have done unto me so will they doe unto you neither is the servant greater then his Lord therefore doe we rejoyce therein as a sure testimony that God hath called us from among you and we are not of you neither can you love us therefore we looke for no other at your hands and though as concerning ourselves we should be silent yet for the truths sake I shall speake a few words to lay open your owne false slanders in some of the particulars wherein ye compare us to Pharisees Monkes and Fryars And first ye say The Pharisees did seperate themselves from the rest of the people upon a conceit of their owne holinesse I answer Selfe we deny and all that seperates themselves by the power of selfe for there ye are but we are seperated by the light of Christ whereby we are called out of the world and set free from all conceits of our owne holinesse and it is no other holinesse we owne but the holinesse of God witnessing against all unholy practises of the world neither doe we owne any to be Saints who walke in unholinesse and here we have the practice of all the Saints in Scripture to witnesse for us who were seperated by the same light out of all the unholy practises of the World who were made the righteousnesse of God in Christ and denyed themselves and selfe-righteousnesse therefore your false accusation we deny 2. For your accusing us to be Pharisees For standing in our owne Knowledge and saying These are accursed who know not the Law I answer This is your owne who stand so much in your owne Knowledge that would have all to come to ye to be taught but our owne Knowledge we deny and waite onely for the Knowledge of God revealed to us in Jesus Christ And for calling Devills and mad-men which ye cast upon us that is your owne language And whereas ye say We judge the lawfull use of meats and drinkes that is false we speake against your glutteny and drunkennesse and excesse which all the holy men of God have spoken against 3. Whereas ye accuse us For shutting up the Kingdome of Heaven against men Mat. 23. 13. I answer Those whom Christ speaks on there were such as were hypocrites which said and did not which Preached to others that which they did not practice themselves and here let all judge if this be not your owne which ye would cast upon us 4. Ye charge us With compassing Sea and Land to make one Proselite and when he is made he is two-fold more the Childe of Hell then he was I answer Our endeavours is to call people out of their sins not in shews but in reality as many will witnesse with us but your pleading is to perswade people that they must never overcome their sins Now vvho makes Proselites the children of Hell but they that keep them in the works of the Devill and they that Preach such Doctrine are they that poyson the hearts but to turne from sin unto God is to purifie and not to poyson 5. You charge us With Tything Mint and Annise but neglecting the weightier matters of the Law And ye say We lay all the weight upon triviall observances of Hats Thou Clothes c. but doe wholly neglect the Mysteries of Faith Righteousnesse of Christ and Ordinances of the Gospel I answer For Tything that is your owne and ye contend for it neither dare we call any thing triviall that the Lord requires of us though vve lay not the vveight upon these things And for the neglecting the Mystery of Faith and the Righteousnesse of Christ that is false for the Mystery of Faith is held in a pure Conscience and that vve owne and presse every one to practice And the Righteousnesse of Christ vve owne and the Ordinances of the Gospel vvhich is Christ vve owne onely your invention and tradition vvhich was never Ordayned by Christ we deny 6. Ye charge us With making cleane the out-side of the Cup being whited Sepulchres outwardly appearing beautifull to men but within full of hypocrisie and iniquity I answer Now whether this belong to us who witnesse our light and righteousnesse within vvhich is the righteousnesse of Christ in spirit or to ye vvho have your light and righteousnesse vvithout in your Formes but vvithin are full of pride covetousnesse lying slandering and such like filthy practises vvhich vve deny now whom this charge vvill fall upon let the truth judge And whereas ye say We doe our works to be seen of men because the Lord sends some of us into your Idols Temples Streets Markets I answer Was it not the practice of the Apostles to goe into the Synagogues and Market places vvhere the people vvas to declare their Message they had from the Lord and yet they did it not to be seen of men And whereas ye say We pray not at all but are the Heathen that knowes not God and the Family that calls not on his name I answer Those vvho know our practice shall vvitnesse against your false accusation