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A31362	The moderate enquirer resolved in a plain description of several objections which are summed up together and treated upon by way of conference, concerning the contemned [sic] people commonly called Quakers who are the royal seed of God and whose innocency is here cleared in the answers to the many objections that are frequently produced by their opponents : which may be profitable for them to read that have any thing against them, and useful for all such as desire to know the certainty of those things which are most commonly reported of them / written in behalf of the brethren, in vindication of the truth, by VV. C.	Caton, William, 1636-1665.	1658 (1658)	Wing C1515; ESTC R29186	28,001	70

live in the life of immortality which was made manifest in the Saints of old so that the same light life spirit and power is now made manifest among the Saints and to the truth of this these people can set their seals who are made partakers of the same according to their measure Enq. Have they then revelations now by the same Spirit Or is there any miracles wrought among them by the same power Res. Yea they have revelations by the same spirit which revealed the my●teries of God in former ages to the Saints for if they had not revelations how should they come to the knowledg of the Father whom none knows but by the revelation of the Son and by the mighty power of God miracles hath been wrought amongst them and miraculous things hath been brought to pass in a mystery which is hid from all vulterous eyes living and they are privy to these things who are witnesses of the power of God which hath wrought them but from scoffers scorners dispisers and wonderers these things are concealed Enq. But such would have a sign that they might believe and be convert●d also would they not Res. Yea but none must be given them but that of Ionah for they are of the adulterous generation that seeketh one saying Shew us a sign or work us a miracle that we may believe that your God is the living God and that he hath sent you c. Now they that will not believe and be converted without a sign would no more believe be converted if one were shewed them then they would have been perswaded to have repented by one that had been raised up from the dead when they rejected Moses and the Prophets Luke 16. 31. Enq. But thou spake of miracles being wrought among these people do they all work miracles Is the gift of prophesie given to all Or have they diversity of gifts Res. They do not all work Miracles neither do they all prophesie for they have differences of administrations but the same Lord diversities of operations but the same God who hath given to one by the Spirit the Word of Wisdom to another the Word of Knowledge by the same Spirit to another discerning of Spirits so that they have received diversities of gifts but the same Spirit Enq. Have not every one of them received● according to their ability and are they not in several states and conditi●ns Res. Yea some of them have received one talent some two some five and they boast not of that which they have because they have received it from him who is the giver of every good and perfect gift their conditions are also divers for there are fathers young men and babes among them and some there are who do not yet witness the birth brought forth which is begotten by the immortal Word of life no●v he that is the strongest among men will bear with the weakest and he that is the greatest among them will become servant to the least and when one among them is overtaken with a fault they that are spiritual doth restore such an one with the Spirit of meekness for sometimes they that are weak among them doth that which the witness of God in them alloweth not to the witness they consent wch convinceth them of the evil that they do through weakness which their soul hates and a law in their members they find which warreth against the law of their mind by which they are somtimes brought into captivity to the law of sin so that they cry out as Paul did in his warfare O wretched man that I am c. yet herein they find comfort that with their minds they serve the law of God though with their flesh in which no good thing dwelleth the law of sin these are such as are not yet come through the law nor to the end of the warfare but finds daily the flesh lusting against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh Enq. Well is not that a good condition Did ever any Saint come further in this life Or are any of these people made free from the law of sin by any other law Res. The time of the warfare must be known and passed through by as many as comes to be made free through him who is the end of the Law for righteousness sake and he that is faithful to the Lord in the light which brings to the warfare the same will bring him through the warfare yea to the Law of the spirit of life by which some of the people are made free from the law of sin and death in Christ Jesus and this the Saints witnessed in whom the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled through which they are come unto him who is the end of the Law and the Prophets by whom they are made free from the Law that being dead wherein they were held and they become dead to it by the body of Christ which was made a curse for them to redeem them from the curse of the Law so that they are now no more under the Law but under Grace Enq. But what do they expect to be perfect or free from sin in this life What ground have they for this in Scripture Was such a state ever commanded or witnessed by any of whom the Scripture doth speak Res. That which is perfect is manifested in them and by that they wait to be perfected for perfection is that which they earnestly press after and have hope to attain unto the fulness of it for they do believe that God would not command and require that of men which could not possibly be attained for he that said Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father which is in heaven is perfect he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified and among such as were sanctified and perfected for ever did Paul preach wisdom their perfection he wished who had not then attained to it but were pressing after it as many of these people are now who expecteth to be made free from sin as the Saints were Rom. 6. 18. and by the blood of Jesus they hope to be cleansed from all sin that being throughly sanctified and cleansed with the washing of water through the Word they might be presented to him a glorious people not having spot or wrinkle nor any such thing but that they might be holy perfected for ever but this seems incredible unto many who are not yet come to the godly sorrow for sin which worketh repentance but these people whose eyes the Lord hath opened do see a possibility in the thing they are not without faith but that they shall obtain it and therefore go they on unto it and will proceed if the Lord permit who hath manifested that in them which is perfect by which he will bring them and hath brought some of them to the perfection of purity and to the beauty of holiness where Halelujah is sung unto the Most High Enq. The Scripture I

The Moderate ENQUIRER RESOLVED In a plain description of several Objections which are summed up together and treated upon by way of Conference concerning the contemned People commonly called QUAKERS who are the Royal Seed of God and whose innocency is here cleared in the Answers to the many Objections that are frequently produced by their Opposers Which may be profitable for all to read that have any thing against them and useful for all such as desire to know the certainty of those things which are most commonly reported of them Written in the behalf of the brethren in vindication of the Truth by VV. C. The way of the wicked is as darkness they know not at what they stumble Prov. 4 19. The simple believeth every word but the prudent man looketh well to his going Prov. 14. 15. London Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1658 TO THE READER My Friend For as much as many of these People have t●ken in hand to set forth large declarations of those things which are most surely believed among them even as they have received them from the Lord it seemed good to me also having had perfect knowledge of the things herein contained to publish them to the view of many people accordingly as they were laid before me in the light of truth that all such as are inquisitive to understand the certainty of those things which are usually reported of these People might be further informed satisfied and resolved Moreover Reader if certain strange things have been brought to thy ears concerning these People and that thou art desirous to know the truth of them as the Athenians were to know what Paul's new Doctrine meaned then this small Booke is very suitable for thee and if thou looke it over with patience moderation and sobriety I shall account thee more noble in that particular then they that should reject it and account it not worthy of reading as they have ●one others of the writings of the●e People who have written most excellent things according to the wisdom given unto them in which writings there are many things hard to be understood which ev l men terms error and blasphemy but be thou wise unto that which is good and simple concerning evil THE Moderate Enquirer RESOLVED Enquirer I Hear great rumors and reports of a People called ●uakers which should be risen up in these last dayes Canst thou tell me what a People they are When they arose By whom they were raised And to what end Resolver I do believe thee that great Rumors and Reports thou hearest of them but know this that the generality of the Reports which are reported of them are mixed with untruths Therefore have patience a little and by the Lords assistance I shall endeavour rightly to inform thee so far as I am allowed of God sha●l also seek fully to resolve thee concerning them but thy first demand cannot in a few words be answered but afterwards it may more fully yet in a word or two I say They are a People that fears God above all the Families of the Earth and that do worship him in his ovvn vvay viz. in spirit and in truth they do also love God above all and their neighbour as themselves ● They were raised up from death to life about eight or nine years ago and since the year 52 they have much multiplied and encreased for the blessing of the Lord hath been and to this day doth rest upon them and by him who causeth them to multiply were they raised up for this very end and purpose to praise and magnifie his Name in the earth who is God over all blessed for ever to publish his living Truth abroad that his salvation might be known unto the ends of the earth therefore hath he manifested his eternal power in them by which the world shall be overturned Enq. Tho● speakest strange things o● them which if I knew that thou spake the truth I would become one of them for unto such a people I desire to be united Res. Thou novv seemest to vvonder but if a third part of the dealings of the Lord vvith them vvere declared in thy hearing then thou vvoulst stand astonished to hear vvhat the Lord hath done for them but peradventure thou art one of them that cannot believe it though men should declare it unto thee and vvhereas thou ●ais● ● If thou knew that I spoke the truth thou wouldst become one of them for unto such a people thou desirest to be united c. But consider it is not an easie matter to become one of them in truth to be united to them in the spirit yet it is an easie matter to come among them and to conform unto them but before thou become one of them united to them thou must be turned from darkness to light from the power of Satan unto God and then thou wilt become as they are and where they are thou wilt be also then thou wilt come to receive the desire of thy soul as they have done Enq. Thou thy self give● a good report of them ●ut I hear otherwi●e abroad in the world where one speaks well of them there is a hundred that cryes out against them and their errors and blasphemies and d●mnable doctrines Re●f My testimony is true which I give of them for I am one that hath perfect understanding of the dealings of the Lord with them and am very frequent among them and far be it from me to extend beyond the truth in any particular or ●o fall from my testimony which I could ●eal with my blood ●f thereunto called And what if thou hear thousands in the world controuling of them exclaiming out against them esteeming them not fit to live upon the earth this may the more confirm thee that they are of God for if they were of the world the world would love them and if they spake of the world the world would hear them but because the Lord hath chosen them out of the world therefore doth it hate them and cry out against their doctrines and opinions and doth suppose them to be erronious blasphemous damnable but their censuring supposing of them to be so doth not make them so for the Jews supposed Christ to be a blasphemer but he was not the same generation supposed the Apostles to be movers of sedition pestilent fellows but they were not and at that time they were by more condemned then owned as many examples might be produced but I believe thou thy self art not ignorant of this Enq. No no but I onely tell thee what I hear of this People I my self do not say that they are such but I would gladly be informed of the truth of the things reported of them for it is a good sign to me that all men speak evil of them it is so much the more apparent that they are of God for his people was always hated of the

mad● partakers of in silent meetings in the vvhich they vvitness the workings of the povver of God vvhich raiseth the life tha●● is immortal in them upon vvhich the● feed and by which they come to be nourished up unto eternal life so that the motions of the pure Spirit of life they fee● daily which is not obtained by bodily exercise vvhich profiteth little neither by self-performances vvhich availeth not but by waiting in the light of life there are the motions of the Spirit of the Lord known and there is the sacred devotion which is acceptable unto the Lord and that devotion vvhich is out of the light is not sacred● but imperfect and unholy Enq. Thou speakest so promis●uously when thou speakest of the light of life that I do not comprehend thee wilt thou therefore t●ll me if it be the same light of which these people speak so much and shew me what that ●●ight is and where that I may find a measure ●of it for I would willingly comprehend it Res. If my words be obscure and promiscuous to thee when I speak of the light of life it is because thy understanding is dark for my words are words of plainness and of truth yet nevertheless I shall endeavour to speak to thy capacity and understanding that I be not as a Barbarian to thee that so our reasoning together might not be in vain neither would I willingly multiply words to no purpose which doth not tend to edification for there is enough of that abroad in the world wherefore let us come to the thing it self viz. To the light of which I spake vvhich is the self-same of which these people speak and that of vvhich they speak is the same that Iohn the Baptist bore witness of and the same of which the Prophets by whom God spake unto our Fathers prophesied and foretold and he who is the light of the vvorld acknovvledged it vvhen he vvas come into the vvorld vvhose Name vvas Immannel vvhich by interpretation is God vvith us they that desire to see the presence of the Lord to be vvith them they must come to the light vvhich cometh from him vvhose Name is called Immanuel and they that believe and vvalk in his light shal come to have the light of life a measure o● which thou hast in thy conscience which shews thee thy sin transgression which separates from God and if thou turn thy mind to it thou wilt find it a swift witnes● against thy lusts and earthly desires and vile affections and against all manner o● evil whatsoever But this I would have thee to know that it is in vain for thee to go about to comprehend it for it shineth in darkness reproveth the works of darkness but the darkness doth nor comprehend it Enq. Is there not great contention and much dispute betwixt these People and busie-minded men about the light which I suppose is tedious and weari●om to this people is it not Res. Yea for they meet with many of these busieminded men that seek to intrude into the knowledge of high things who by their sensual wisdom seek to comprehend this incomprehensible Light and the more they strive the more they puzzle themselves and although they be puzled confounded in themselves yet they wil not cease from propounding frivolous questions about the light many of which have been fully answered according to the folly of these unruly and vain talkers lest that they should be wise in their own conceit but the truth is these people vvill many times avoid the questions and geneologies of these unreasonable men because they see them to be unprofitable and vain and that doth very much torment them Enq. Why are they not given to disputing for if the truth be on their sides they might thorow disputing overcome their opposers and instruct them that wilfully oppose themselves and so do much good thereby might they not Res. There is so much disputing in the World vvhich is altogether unprofitable that it is a mercy that they are no more inclined to it for what good can there be brought forth by it seeing that by the generality of Disputers the holy Scripture is not a little wrested perverted the Name of God too much dishonored and many precious hearts disturbed grieved and wearied by the tedious disputing which is among men and by reason of it much strife and contention is brought forth in which these people have no pleasure nor contentment for they have not so learned Christ neither do they seek by way of disputing to overcome their opposors whom they with meekness do instruct when they wilfully oppose themselves but to that of God in the consciences of their opposers they seek to be made manifest that by that they might be overcome which will convince them of the Truch which these people hath on their sides by turning people to that of God in them they do much good for as men come to be brought to that they come to be brought off from disputing to the life of that which Disputers dispute upon Enq. It is very true the Scriptures are much wrested by Disputers but pray thee tell me what do these p●ople hold of the holy Scripture● it is reported they do deny them is that true Res. No they do not deny them but doth read peruse them above all books and they do affirm that they are able to make a man wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus and that they which were given by inspiration of God are profitable for Doctrines for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in Righteousness c they also hold them to be a true Declaration of those things which were most surely believed among the Saints of old who were eye-witnesses and some of them Ministers of the Word of God of which the holy Scriptures do testifie And further they say that the holy Scripture was written for their learning that they through patience and comfort of the Scripture should have hope this with much more they affirm of the Scripture the life of which they witness manifested in them Enq. All this is good but is there any man now that hath the same Spirit the ●postles had Or is the same light life and power now to be enjoyed which the Saints in former ages witnessed Res. I tell thee whosoever hath not the same spirit by which the Apostles were guided and lead they are none of his whom the Apostles served and owned to be their Lord and Law-giver Jesus Christ who is the same to day yesterday and for ever they that are his of his Fold and of his Priesthood they have unity in his light in which the Apostles had fellowship they are lead and guided by the same spirit that revealed things which had been hid from all ages and generations unto the Apostles and Saints and they are preserved in that power which gave the Saints victory over the world and they