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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	dead_a	die_v	live_v	11,283	5	6.6056	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80811	The magistrates authority, in matters of religion; and the souls immortality, vindicated in two sermons preach'd at York. / By Christopher Cartvvright, B.D. and Minister of Gods Word there.	Cartwright, Christopher, 1602-1658.; Leigh, Edward, 1602-1671.	1647 (1647)	Wing C692; Thomason E401_32; ESTC R201801	22,915	44

said to have waked the same day that they fel asleep Yea grant this mans opinion of the souls mortality to be true and let the words of our Saviour be expounded as he would have them and what singular thing was promised to that penitent malefactor It might as wel have been said to Adam that that very day that he dyed he should be with Christ in Paradise though it should not be of I know not how many thousand years after as it was spoken by our Saviour to this Malefactor that was Crucified with him Test 3 Again 2 Cor. 5.8 We are confident saith the Apostle willing rather to be absent from the body and present with the Lord. How I wonder are we present with the Lord when we are absent from the body if the soul do not remain seperated from the body certainly if the soul die with the body we are less present with the Lord after death which is meant by absence from the body then before Besides that very phrase of being absent from the body implyes that something of us which can be nothing but the soul hath a subsistance by it self out of the body and therefore dies not with the body To this place he answers that the Apostle meant nothing else but the estate after the resurrection But how could the Apostle mean that For is there then an absence from the body when as the body riseth again and the soul and it are again united Test 4 Again Phil. 1.23 the Apostle saith That he desired to be dissolved and to be with Christ which was better for him then to live stil here in this world And v. 21. that it was gain for him to die But except the soul be mortal how could this be how could death be gain to him How could he desire to be dissolved that he might be with Christ and so be in a far better estate then here he could enjoy if as his body died so his soul should die also and should be no more until the resurrection Surely then it had been far better for him to live stil yea if it were possible not to die at all but to remain until Christs 2 coming as some upon a mistake of Christs words supposed John should Ioh. 21.23 I wil add but one place more viz. That 2 Cor. 12.2.3 where the Apostle saith that he knew a man in Christ meaning without question himself who was caught up to paradise the third heaven whether in the body or out of the body he could not tell These words which the Apostle twice repeateth whether in the body or out of the body I cannot tell to what purpose were they if the soul could not be separated from the body and subsist in a state of separation They necessarily imply thus much that the soul is a distinct substance from the body and may subsist out of the body And consequently it is not mortal it dies not with the body But some objections are made which must be answered Object 1 Man is mortal and therefore the soul being part yea principal part of man is mortal Answ I answer it doth not follow Totus homo moritur non totum hominis i. the whole man dieth but not the whole not every part of man it sufficeth that one part viz. the body dieth For quod convenit parti convenit etiam toti secundum illam partem i. That which agreeth to a part agreeth also to the whole in respect of that part It s said Gen. 2.7 that God formed man of the dust of the ground viz. because God formed the body of man of the dust As for the soul it was not formed thereof but infused as there it s said that God breathed into man i. mans body the breath of life If mans mortality did prove the mortality of the soul then because Christ died not only his soul but his divine nature should die also which I think this Author himself wil abhor to say or think for as man consisteth of soul and body so Christ of the divine and humane nature And therefore if Christ might die as he did and yet his divine nature be immortal then is there no necessity at all why because man dyeth the soul therefore must die also Object 2 Man became mortal because of sin but he sinned principally in his soul Therefore in respect of the soul he ought principally to die Answ The soul through sin becometh liable to such a death as it is capable of viz. an exclusion from God and from all happiness but it is not capable of such a death as the body is liable to viz. a deprivation of all sense and feeling and a corruption of the very substance of it for the soul is a spirit as in the Text and in other places it is termed and therefore of an incorruptible nature Object 3 In death there is no remembrance of God in the grave who shal give him thanks Psal 6.5 The grave cannot praise him death cannot celebrate him Isa 38.18 Answ The meaning is that the dead cannot so praise God as the living do viz. to the instruction and edification of others The living the living he shal praise thee as I do this day the father to the children shal make known thy truth saith Hezekiah there immediately after Isaiah 38.19 In this respect the godly have desired to live rather then to die that they may edifie the Church and to glorify God which being dead they could not do I wil not die but live saith David and why he adds and declare the works of the Lord Psal 118.17 See also Phil. 1.23.24.25 Object 4 Eccles 9.4.5 A living dogg is better then a dead Lion For the living know that they shal die but the dead know not any thing And Eccles 3.19.20.21 That which befalleth the sonnes of men befalleth beasts even one thing befalleth them as the one dieth so dieth the other yea they have all one breath so that a man hath no preheminence above a beast for all is vanity All go unto one place all are of the dust all turn to dust again Who knoweth the spirit of a man that goeth upward and the spirit of a beast that goeth downward to the earth Answ This is spoken in the person of carnal Epicures and Atheists who think there is no other life after this and therefore had rather live though never so basely then die though never so honorably Certain it is that the spirit of God means nothing less then that the worst alive are better then the best being dead For how then are they blessed that die in the Lord even whiles they are dead Apoc. 14.13 How is it gain to the godly to die and far better for them then to live Phil. ● 21.23 And that very question who knoweth the spirit of a man that goeth upward c. implyeth that in truth the spirit of a man dies not when the body dies as the spirit of a beast doth