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A07405 A godly and learned assertion in defence of the true church of God, and of His Woorde written in Latine by that Reuerend Father D. Philip Melancthon, after the conuention at Ratisbona, anno 1541 ; translated into English by R.R. Melanchthon, Philipp, 1497-1560.; Robinson, Richard, fl. 1576-1600. 1580 (1580) STC 17790; ESTC S1632 66,768 154

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