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A75502 An Apologie for Mr. Iohn Goodwin: who having subscribed proposalls to be presented to the magistrate concerning matters of religion; after that, makes 30 Queries, whether it be the magistrates duty to interpose his authoritie in matters of religion. 1653 (1653) Wing A3545; Thomason E690_5; ESTC R206986 6,148 11

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Civill But this Stone is so ill squar'd that one way it will be found to narrow and the other to broad to prove an adaequate foundation whereupon to raise a Batterie that may annoy the Ministers and Mr. Goodwins Proposals For things of a Religious nature are absolutely such or mixtly The Proposals plead not for the Magistrates intermedling in the former and it 's presum'd Mr. Goodwin will not plead against in the latter Such are the publique Circumstance of Time Place and Revenue and some opinions amongst Papists or Ranters For it is credible some Papists would never have sacrificed their lives in pursuance of some treasonable practises were it not upon the account of a religious Conscience though miserably misled Tanlum Religio potuit suadere malorum Let Mr. Goodwin resolve whether a Christian Magistrate were obliged to suffer a Heathen under his Jurisdiction to Sacrifice his Child to Moloch c. In the last place as the foundation of the grand scruple and Top-stone of thirty Queries comes in the considerable question whether the Civill Magistrate be not a kind of Bat that is confin'd to the twi-light of Nature and whether the Child may adventure to take a lesson out of any Book but natures Primmer But least the Reader be mistaken he must remember that the Book of Nature according to Mr. Goodwins Edition comes forth in a just volume the light of Nature in his Astronomy is a Star of the first magnitude And therefore whilst he allowes the Magistrate a power to punish offenders against the light and law of Nature he out-vies the Proposals if he be true to his owne principles For what cannot the light of Nature see if it looks with Mr. Goodwins eyes which by the Light of Nature can discover the way to Faith and Salvation But to spare the sharpning any weapon at this Forge it shall suffice by way of conclusion to Vindicate the Ministers Proposals from all just ground of scruple by a few Corollaries whose Truth the light of Nature may discover or at least being discovered must assent to 1. The light of Nature teaches all men and among others the Civill Magistrate that there is a God and that God is to be worshiped 2. Never was there yet it were no audacious assertion to add nor never will be any Common-Wealth in the world which publiquely owned all Religions or none It s true indeed the Scripture seems to hold forth a promise of a Time wherein all shall owne but One when it speakes of a Day in which all shall serve the Lord with one consent and the Lord shall be one and his Name one 3. In all Common-Wealths where there are as 't is believed there are in all civiliz'd Common-Wealths this day in the World publique places and Revenues set apart to Religious uses the trust of the disposall of both is in the Civill Magistrate 4. In disposall of both according to this trust the Civill Magistrates duty is to use at least as much wisdome and faithfulness as men are obliged to use in things that concern their own private 5. The wise and faithfull Christian Magistrate may be assured of some truths in the Christian Religion and their opposite errors 6. The Christian Magistrate can neither discharge his trust concerning such places and revenues with wisdom nor faithfulness in the disposall of either to persons either wholly unknown or known to be enemies to such known truths or friends to their opposite errors It were no vaine confidence to presume on Mr. Goodwins assent to this position For 't is to be supposed Mr. Goodwins Church neither would nor indeed could be obliged upon any rationall account to administer to him of their temporall things if they were not satisfied in the spirituall things which he administers to them at least as to the maine however in other things dissenting And why should it be accounted unreasonable in the Magistrate to expect the like satisfaction in the like case Besides 2 Joh. 10 who can deny it to be the priviledge and duty of a Master of a Family to admit such onely to Teach in his House as his Conscience shall be satisfied in and warrant him to receive Or to come yet a little nearer will the Churches distinguished by the names of Independents and Anabaptists suppose Mr. Goodwins Church admit of any person either wholly unknown or known to be grosly ignorant or scandalous suppose a known Mahemetan or one of their own judgement and without scandall but wholly unknown to Teach in their Congregations without their approbation and assent first obtained if not as it is presum'd they will not let no man scruple to allow that thing to be the right of the Magistrate as a publique parent in the disposall of publique places and revenues to persons to be approved by himselfe or such as he shall think meet to be trusted therein which is claimed as a right by every private Parent and Congregation And whereas Mr. Goodwin in the last Querie hath appeal'd to the Law of Nature as to his Caesar to Caesar he shall goe and therein let be remembred First that so far power is granted by him to the Magistrate in Religion as the Law of Nature doth dictate And secondly That his Contradistinction is unsound in that Querie where he distinguisheth the worshipping of God in a false manner from evill doing against the light of Nature for here he may see that Idolatry and false worship are against the light and law of Nature yea that the law of Nature teacheth the Magistrate to make lawes against false worship and Idolatry And Indeed the Apostle Paul might serve in stead of all proofs who clearly shews that men by the light of Nature might see this truth that God was not like unto Birds nor Beasts nor was to be worshipped under such Images but that in so doing they did deteine the Truth even the evident Truth in unrighteousness yet ex aebundanti here shall be produced concerning the light of Nature directing Magistrates to make Lawes for Religion The testimonies both of Gentiles and Jewes which termes commonly comprehend all man-kind and it may serve for an universall Testimony And first for the Gentiles le ts hear what Plato saith Plato de Repub. lib. 2. lib. 4. Let the first Care in every well constituted Common-wealth be for setting up the true not a false or fabulous Religion in which let the chiefe Magistrate even from his Child-hood be instructed Lib. decimo de legibus Ignorance of the true God is the greatest plague of all Common-wealths Therefore he pulls down the foundation of all humane Society who takes away Religion or abolishes it out of the minds of men Whence it is that all impiety is to be punished with the greatest and most grievous punishments c. Therefore in no wise are there to be tollerated in a Common-wealth well ordered so much as Disputation against God and his Providence c.