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A47361	An answer to Mr. Marlow's Appendix Wherein his arguments to prove that singing of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, was performed in the primitive church by a special or an extraordinary gift, and therefore not to be practised in these days, are examined, and clearly detected. Also some reflections on what he speaks on the word hymnos, hymnos: and on his undue quotations of divers learned men. By a learned hand. By B. Keach.	Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704.	1691 (1691)	Wing K43A; ESTC R223737	27,870	57

is the very Text you mention take their words This Rule must not say they be restrained to ordinary prophesying for certainly if the Spirit of Prophesy came upon a Woman in the Church she might speak Anna who was a Prophetess in the Temple gave Thanks to the Lord and spake of him to all them that looked for the Redemption of Israel and I cannot tell how Philip's Daughters prophesied if they did not speak in the presence of many The reason given why Women should be silent is because they are commanded to be in Obedience A Woman say they might say Amen to the publick Prayers and also sing with the Congregation to the Honour and Glory of God but for her to speak in an ordinary course of Prophesy to instruct People c. she is forbidden The Apostle saith a Friend in a Manuscript doth not prohibit all manner of speaking for that is directly contrary to 1 Cor. 11. 5 6. where Women are admitted to pray and prophesy for Prayer they may say Amen to the publick Prayers of the Church and for Prophesy they may sing Psalms the Apostle using the Expression according to the Ideum of the Jews 1 Sam. 19. 20 21. 1 Sam. 10. 5. they shall prophesy and for they shall prophesy the Cald. Paraphras reads they shall sing and thou shalt praise with them Vid. Wilson's Dict. Dr. Hammond's Annotat. on 1 Cor. 11. 5. and so it 's used 1 Chron. 25. 1 2 3. The Prohibition saith he is not restrained only to Church-Assemblies but holds good in all places and at all times and intends a Subjection of Women to their Husbands as plainly appears by comparing 1 Cor. 14. 35. with 1 Tim. 2. 12 13. with the occasion and scope of the Text and is of no greater Restraint now than lay on them under the Law 1 Cor. 14. 34. where they were permitted to sing Object But say you If we should say such a vocal Singing together is for a Teaching then where are the Hearers if all be Teachers c. Appendix p. 35. Answ We have shewed you Singing is a distinct thing from that which is called Teaching or Preaching tho in Singing there is a Teaching but chiefly we speak to our own selves as the Apostle exhorts in Psalms c. and the matter of the Psalm or Hymn is full of Teaching and Admonition yet 't is the Matter sung which teaches rather than the Singers may be said to do it nor is it any Contradiction to say when I teach others yet I am thereby taught and admonished my self So that if it were admitted to be a common or ordinary Teaching which must not be allowed and all might be said to teach c. yet nevertheless all are Hearers also and are in a sweet manner taught admonished and instructed in singing the Word of Christ in Psalms Hymns and spiritual Songs as elsewhere I have shewed Nor is it any Contradiction to say according to the sense of the Apostle Women must keep silence in the Church and yet suffer them to sing c. no more than it contradicts their Silence when they speak at other times which they are allowed to do In Sect. 6. You speak of those prophetical places of the Psalms c. urged by us for Singing under the gospel-Gospel-days where all the Earth is exhorted to sing unto the Lord Psal 96. 1. Psal 95. 1 2. Psal 100. 1 c. 1. This you would have refer to the preaching of the Gospel i. e. as the Apostles sound went forth into all the Earth Rom. 10. 18. confounding Preaching and Singing together one time and Prayer and Singing at another 2. You would have it chiefly to refer to the seventh thousand Years of the World or Reign of Christ hinting in your first Part as if then there shall be a Singing besides the Essence of it in their Spirits but if that thousand Years you speak of shall be before the end of the World or Gospel-Dispensation pray where lie those Precepts that will authorize them in those days to sing and yet do not authorize or warrant us to sing now Shall they have a new Bible for those Times But if the Precepts for Singing then are contained in our holy Scripture and yet do not belong to us 't is good for us to consider whether other Precepts written therein do not wholly refer to those Times too nay all Ordinances till the Spirit comes down in an extraordinary manner and so now we must throw off all Gospel-Administrations and turn Seekers I am sorry to see such Stuff as this published to the World But what I have said or cited from the Writings of other Godly Men in respect of those Prophetical Psalms and other places of Scripture that enjoin the Gentile-Churches to sing the Praises of the Lord I would have you and others consider well of before you write again In Sect. 7. you heap up a company of confused words to no purpose about premeditated Matter for Prayer to oppose premeditated Hymns c. Append. pag. 38 39 40 41 42 43 c. Answ 1. The Form of Prayer Christ hath left us is a Rule for us in Prayer and we may premeditate what we intend to lay before the Lord it appears from thence and so is the Word of Christ our general Rule by which we must premeditate and precompose our Spiritual Hymns and Songs 2. But Prayer and Singing differ the one from the other we may use other words in Prayer than what we premeditated as the Spirit of God may help us But we are limited by God's Word to sing David's Psalms or else Hymns and Spiritual Songs composed out of the Word of God Now let them be either they must be so many words and no more or else none can sing with him that has the Hymn Now we say the extraordinary Influences for Singing Preaching Interpreting c. are gone therefore every Ordinance must be performed by the ordinary Gifts and Influences of the Spirit or else we must have none at all Was Singing or any other Ordinance performed in the Gospel-Days by an extraordinary Spirit not performed then also and afterwards as well and as acceptable to God by the ordinary Gifts Shew if you can that other Ordinances which had such special Gifts then to attend them as well as Singing do notwithstanding remain Ordinances and yet Singing of Psalms and Hymns doth not so continue If therefore a Man should premeditate every word of his Sermon by the Assistance of the Spirit who dares to say he speaks not by the Help of the Holy Ghost or that his Sermon is not part of Spiritual Worship 'T is no matter whether we have our Sermons or our Hymns mediately or immediately composed and brought forth provided they be Spiritual and done by the help of the Spirit But to close all Are not David's Psalms part of Spiritual Worship and are not the Churches exhorted to sing them In Sect. 8. Appendix pag. 43 44 c.

Duties or natural Worship but mistakes and thinks natural or moral Worship must needs be carnal tho we never plead for the performance of any Duties that are moral naturally in themselves without the help and assistance of God's Spirit and the Graces thereof in our Hearts Is it not part of natural Religion and Worship to fear God to love God and trust in God and that too with all our Hearts and with all our Souls and with all our Strength and love our Neighbours as our selves c. These Duties appertain to natural Religion yet without the divine Help and Influences of the Spirit we can do none of them in a right manner no more say I can we pray nor sing the Praises of God which are Duties comprehended in our fearing honouring worshipping and loving of him And whereas Mr. Marlow reflects on me as if I singled out my self more than others in London in pushing on this practice of Singing I must tell him I have abundance of Peace in my Spirit in what I have done therein And if our People I mean the Church to whom I belong are one of the first Churches of our Perswasion in this City found in the practice of this Sacred Ordinance I am satisfied it will be to their great Honour and not to their Reproach and that not only in succeeding Ages but also in the Day of Jesus Christ But blessed be God the greatest number of our worthy London-Elders are as well satisfied in this Truth as my self and many of their People too and will generally I doubt not in a little time get into the practice of it Our Reverend Brother Knowllys 't is known is clear in it and has practised it for some Years though at present 't is not used in his Congregation He told me lately he is about to write in Vindication thereof which he intends to publish in a short time if the Lord please to spare his Life And whereas Mr. Marlow affirms as if I had brought Singing into our Congregation to the grief and trouble of many of our Members it is false for 't is known the Church hath been in this practice near twenty Years after Breaking of Bread and near 14 Years on thanksgiving-Thanksgiving-days in a mixt Congregation And what was done of late in bringing it in after Sermon on the Lord's Days was done by a regular Act of the Church in a solemn manner And though some of our worthy Brethren and Sisters are at present somewhat dissatisfied with it yet I doubt not but will in a little time see their Mistakes if such busy Men as he do not in an undue manner blow up Coals of Contention amongst us Can any sober Christian think he hath done well to publish the Private Affairs of a Particular Church to the whole World It seems to some as if he has hopes there will be a Breach in the Church upon the Account of our Singing the Praises of God but I hope he will find our worthy Brethren understand themselves better than to go about to impose on the Church or Consciences of their Brethren or to strive to pull down that which the Church and themselves too have been a building for so many Years Can there be a Man so left of God as to countenance any Persons to make a Schism in a Congragation because they cannot forgo a Duty they have so long been satisfied in the practice of and so the whole Body to submit to the Sentiments of a few Persons as if they had Power over our Faith We do not say our dissatisfied Brethren shall sing with us or we will have no fellowship with them no God forbid we should impose on their Consciences We do not look upon Singing c. an Essential of Communion 't is not for the being but for the comfort and well-being of a Church We have told our Brethren since we sing not till after our last Prayer if they cannot sing with us nay nor stay with the Church whilst we do sing they may go forth and we will not be offended Should any countenance through a hot and unaccountable zeal such a Schism it would make strange Confusion in our Churches And since he thus publickly hints at this private Case amongst us I had I thought a clear Call to open the matter plainly as it is to clear my self and the Church to all who may read his Epistle and this my Answer for we have done nothing we have the least cause to be ashamed of or unable to justify in the sight of God or Man I shall add one word to the consideration of the Brethren of our Church I doubt not but they will consider it 1. If they look upon us as equal in Knowledg and Uprightness towards God with themselves they may see we have the same ground to be offended with them in diminishing from God's Word as they may be with us for adding as possibly they think to God's Word 2. And let them consider 't is a horrid Evil to break the Bond of Spiritual Union and unawares to wound the Body of Christ Whose Work is it thus to do but the Devil's and what a reproach doth it bring upon the Truth and how grievous is it to all truly Godly Ones and grateful to the Enemies of our Sacred Profession Besides upon such a trifle can it be so hainous a Crime to be found often in that Duty which they with us have so often and long been in the practice of and in a mixt Assembly too many and many times Besides brought in by almost an unanimous Agreement in a solemn Church-Meeting there being not above five or six that shewed any publick dissent nor they neither signifying any such dissatisfaction i. e. that if we sang at such Times they could not bear it nor do I hear they do desire us now to decline the said practice Love will cover a greater Fault than this for they may see cause to believe 't is not Self-Interest but the Glory of God we wholly aim at But to return The truth is I wonder any should be taken with his Book for I never saw any thing come out in Print upon any controvertible Truth that has less of Argument in it or more of Confidence And 't is not my Thoughts alone nor more destructive Mediums made use of to the whole of the external Parts of Religion Nay one told me very lately that one of our dissatisfied Members intimated to him as if our Bible was not truly or rightly translated and it seems to rise from what Mr. Marlow hath asserted in his Book about the word Hymnos I fear'd that would be the Effect of his Attempt if any Body regarded what he hath said upon that account But pray what Call has he to rebuke me after this publick manner especially before the whole World If I had done any thing amiss in his Judgment in that Matter I could wish he had had more Wisdom and Prudence or

't is not only acceptable but very acceptable it pleases God better than shadowy Ordinances or the Offering of an Ox or Bullock The●● few things Brethren I thought good to add at the Close that you may stick close to this Heavenly Ordinance and not be removed by the subtil opposition of any Men whatsoever Remember there is no Truth of Christ but has met with its Opposers but though we can't as yet agree to sing the Praises of God together yet let us love one another and let not the practising or non-practising of this Duty for want of Light break our Communion one with another nor make a Breach in our Affections Let us walk as we have attained If any be otherwise minded God may reveal it to them Phil. 3. 15. Let us live holy Lives and not sing God's Praises and soon forget his Works that so though we can't all sing together on Earth yet may so walk to the Praise of his Glory that we may sing his Praises together in Heaven FINIS Some Reflections on Mr. Marlow's undue Citations of several Learned Men shewing the genuine and proper Signification of the word Hymnos By another Hand THE Foundation of Singing Psalms Hymns and Spiritual Songs in the Publick Assembly of the Saints is too firmly laid in Scripture and in the Judgment and Practice of Christians in general to be shaken by the New Notions of some few amongst us whom I hope the Lord in his time will lead into the knowledge of this Truth and make them sensible of their injurous Attempts to overthrow and remove it particularly Mr. Marlow in his late Book and Appendix which are answered in the preceding Tract and no more is intended in these few Pages but some short Remarks on the two first Sections of the Appendix In the first whereof he would not have Praising God confined to Songs of Praise or Vocal and Melodious Singing For my part I know not where he will find an Antagonist in this Point for without Controversy it will be generally granted that all Creatures according to their Natures and Capacities are obliged to praise their great and bountiful Creatour and the allowance hereof doth not in the least injure the Duty which he strenuously pleads against As for his long Citation out of the Learned Dr. Owen on Heb. 2. 12. to me seems very little for his purpose for the Doctor after he had made some Reflections on the Translation of the former part of the Verse saith in the rest of the words viz. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. in the midst of the Church I will sing Praise unto thee the Original Heb. Psal 22. 24. is expresly render'd for though 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 be render'd simply to Praise yet it s most frequent use when it respects God as its Object is to praise by Hymns or Psalms as the Apostle here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sibi hymnos canam I will sing Hymnes unto thee or te hymnis celebrabo I will praise thee with Hymns which was the principal way of setting forth God's Praise under the Old Testament Here the Doctor shews the genuine and proper signification of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and although the Doctor in his Exposition of this place extends the sense of the word to its utmost latitude that it might include all ways whereby our blessed Mediator was to Praise the Father yet certainly he never intended to exclude that particular way principally pointed at both in the Hebrew and Greek word which we find in the evangelical History so directly and expresly accomplished Mat. 26. 30. Mark 14. 26. as were also all other things prophesied concerning him yet I grant that the Prophecy had not its full and compleat accomplishment therein for the Design of Christ in the whole Administration of his Mediatorial Kingdom is to set forth the Praise and Glory of his Father and every Member of his Mystical Body should concur with him in this Work in all the Modes wherein it can possibly be performed because God is to be served with all our strength and might Moreover it is evident that the Doctor never intended to undermine or overthrow the Duty of Singing for herein he would have opposed his own Judgment which he hath published to the World in the account he gives of the several parts of Gospel-Worship where he makes Singing one though he terms it a fond Imagination for any to think that God cannot be praised in the Church without it and I doubt not but that all sober Christians agree with the Doctor therein I shall now pass to ●he second Section and consider some parts of it which I was desired to take notice of Mr. Marlow begins with the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which whatever he pretends concerning the generality of its signification most properly denotes a Song of Praise And what he cites out of the Learned Ainsworth on Psal 3. to favour his Purpose will not serve it at all for he there intends nothing less than a Song of Praise which is fitly composed to be sung as will appear to any one who considers the whole Paragraph without Prejudice and this import of the word is agreeable to the common sense of Learned Men notwithstanding what is cited to the contrary His first Citation is out of Constantin's Lexicon whence he tells us that Hymenaeus is a Nuptial Song And what if it be it is altogether impertinent in the present Enquiry for this is a word of another Family and descends from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a word well known amongst Learned Anatomists And if he consults any of them he may soon know the full meaning of it and also the reason why Hymenaeus is used for a Nuptial Song This word being thus dismist as foreign to our present Purpose we may consider 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which according to Constantine as cited by him primarily and chiefly signify an Hymn or Copy of Verses made to Praise and to sing such an Hymn or Verse And as for the latter word he says also it is used for saying or pronouncing such an Hymn and the reason may be because saying or pronouncing is necessarily included in Singing for Singing is but a particular Mode of saying or pronouncing And if it was not thus I might say it is the common fate of all Words to be stretched beyond their prime and most proper Signification and who can help it seeing that the Wit and Fancy of Men are such luxuriant things that will make bold sometimes not only with Words but Persons too The Object of an Hymn and Hymning according to their usage in prophane Authors hath been extended with the like liberty both to Men and Things though the primary Object was their Gods Now I shall pass by two or three lines of unintelligible stuff Viz. Hymno etiam Kateuphemismon pro conqueror i. e. hymno also Kateuphemismon is put for Conqueror to complain