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A31362	The moderate enquirer resolved in a plain description of several objections which are summed up together and treated upon by way of conference, concerning the contemned [sic] people commonly called Quakers who are the royal seed of God and whose innocency is here cleared in the answers to the many objections that are frequently produced by their opponents : which may be profitable for them to read that have any thing against them, and useful for all such as desire to know the certainty of those things which are most commonly reported of them / written in behalf of the brethren, in vindication of the truth, by VV. C.	Caton, William, 1636-1665.	1658 (1658)	Wing C1515; ESTC R29186	28,001	70

whom the law of the land alloweth tythe whether do they pay them or suffer the penalty of the law the cruelty of such men Res. O alas The covetous hirelings they are so spread over the Nation that scarce either city or parish are free of them and truly volums might be filed of the sufferings of these harmless people which they undergo have undergone in that particular through the cruelty mercilessness of that unreasonable generation of greedy perverse priests whose blessings are cursed whose seed is corrupted for truly they have even made havock of the people who for conscience sake cannot pay tythe therefore have their goods been pitifuly spoiled as hath been pretty largely published to the shame confusion of these merciless cruel men but a book of remembrance is writ and their actions are upon record Enq. But are these people so simple that they will not go to Law with those that wrong them what is not the Law open and the Magistrates will do justice will they not Res. If thou observed Christs words wel thou would not cal them simple for not going to Law with their adversaries for did he not say if any man wil sue thee at the Law and take away thy Coat let him have thy Cloak also now they that walk in his light who spoke these words they abide in his doctrine when their adversary hath sued them recovered treble damage taketh away twice the worth of that which he recovered they resist not but bears it patiently knowing this that there is one that wil plead their cause to vvhom vengeance belongs and he will repay And although that the law be open yet they are not free to go to it For what said Paul to the ●orinthians did he not tell them that there was utterly a fault among them because they did go to law one with another why saith he do you not rather take wrong why do you not rather suffer your selves to be defrauded so that here thou may see it doth not become Saints to go to Law and that especially before them that are out of the truth for such Magistrates will connive at the sufferings of the oppressed not reprove the oppressors who ought by magistrates to be rebuked But there are some prudent understanding men that are much wearied with being so daily incumbred with the beggerly suits of these covetous priests against these harmless innocent people And some of the Magistrates are backvvard enough in doing Justice and too forward in fulfilling the desires of unjust men vvho deals unjustly with these people this is not unknovvn to some in authority whose bovvels are sometime moved with compassion to behold the many greivances and annoyances vvhich are daily renewed upon these that fear the Lord Enq. I suppose that Saints in former ages have suffered much by the untoward generation have they not Res. Yea yea a cloud of vvitnesses might be produced of the sufferings of the Saints some of which had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings of bonds and imprisonments some of them were stoned others sawn assunder others slain with the sword c. he that was a precious Saint a sufferer by the untoward generation he testified and said that through many tribulations we must enter into the kingdom of God further he said that they that will live godly in Christ Jesus must suffer persecution Enq. But these whom thou mentionest were comforted in the midest of their tribulations and sufferings are these people so Res. Yea they also are comforted in their tribulations that they are able to comfort them which are in trouble by the comfort wherewith they themselves are comforted of God for as the sufferings of Christ abound in them so their consolation also aboundeth by Christ of which all the opposers and adversaries in the world cannot deprive them of they may be bereaved of their goods separated from their friends and brethren be debarred of their liberty freedom by the power of their adversary but his power extendeth not so far as to deprive them of their peace in him which is their life and of the comfort and consolation which they receive from him and that they prefer above the whole world Enq. and how comes it that so many of them are cast into priso● and some whipped and others banished from some places Is it for misdemeanour or for the truths sake Res. Thus it is many of them have been mov'd of the Lord to go to Steeple-houses wch are call'd churches to speak unto the priest people that which the Lord was pleased to lay upon them to declare it may be somtime before the priest had done and somtime after so some in authority being then present have forthwith sent them to prison for disturbing the congregation as they said it may be have caused them to be whip'd c. for this very particular hundreds have been put in prison several others have been cast into prison because they could not pay Tythe to the hireling Priests others because they could not swear others because they have not put off their Hats before Magistrates others for going to visit their friends that hath been in prison others for riding above five miles upon a first day to a meeting others for speaking a few words in a street or a market to people whom they have exhorted to fear the Lord others for speaking to ●ome upon the high way for such like ●hings as these are the most part of them 〈◊〉 if not all cast into prison and some of ●hem have been fined for standing cover●d before the Judge and hath laid above a ●ear or years in prison for non-paiment of the fine and some of them after they ●ave ●uffered imprisonment a certain time have been banished and sent away like ●agabonds more favour is shewed unto ●alefactors by many in authority then is ●fforded them and all this do they patiently suffer for righteousness sake Enq. It seems by thy relation of them they suffer much wrong do they not petition unto the powers of the earth for relief and make ●heir redress unto them in such causes Res. They cry unto them for Justice but to petition unto them as unto Gods they cannot in the least do it although many petitions have been put up against them but that doth not molest nor troubble them whose trust and confidence is in the Lord by whom they do expect to be delivered not by the arm of flesh their manifold greivances are not hid from the Lord who will arise and plead their cause and rebuke those that afflict them and severely punish those that do oppress them Enq. But in the mean time do they not seek to avenge themselves of their adversaries seei●g they are now become a great body Res. O no they have no such thoughts for they have referred their cause wholly to the Lord to

whom vengeance belongeth and he will repay of whom they have learned to love their enemies to bless those that curse them to do good to those that hate them to pray for those which despitefully use them and persecute them and they are so far from avenging themselves that if one smite them on the one cheek they will turn the other And they look not upon the number of themselves to be any thing in reference to their redemption out of their hands who exercise Lordship over them For they know that by one the Lord is able to chase a thausand and by two to put ten thousand to ●light Enq Yea that is true yet nevertheless wil they not carry weapons for their own defence and for the defence of their Country Res. The weapons of their warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds casting down Imaginations and every high thought that exalteth it self against the Kingdom of God and only such weapons carry they and he that put them into ●●eir hands is mighty enough to preserve ●●em and their Country with whose ar●ur they are always armed having their ●●nes girt about with truth having on the ●est-plate of righteousness and the sheild 〈◊〉 faith wherewith they are able to quench 〈◊〉 the fiery darts of the wicked they ●ve also the helmet of Salvation and the ●ord of the Spirit which is the word o●●od thus are they armed against their ene●●es that seek to bereave them of their ●ace with God whom they only with●●●nd but violence to no man will they do ●at is contrary to the doctrine of their ●●rd to whom they do commend them●●●ves Enq. I suppose by this declaration of them ●at they are a peaceable people But what 〈◊〉 they in life and conversation for by their ●its we must judge of them Res. My report or declaration of them 〈◊〉 true and the truth I speak lie not for 〈◊〉 have known them from a child or ●ce that I was a babe in Christ my ●ucation in the Lord hath been among ●em and for the space of several years I ●ave been daily conversant with them ●d in all this time I have found their life ●d conversation to be good honest and ●reproveable do but ask any conscientious man fearing God that know● these people and thou shalt find that 〈◊〉 testimony of them will not contra●● mine yea many of their opposers will 〈◊〉 knowledge that for their life conver●●tion they have nothing to accuse them● Enq. But it is said they are rude 〈◊〉 speech and useth the word Thee and 〈◊〉 particular persons is not that an unman●●ly and absurd thing in them Res. No it is the language of the 〈◊〉 Scripture and to use thou and thee 〈◊〉 a particular person is proper and 〈◊〉 unmannerly nor absurd for when 〈◊〉 Lord spake to Adam and Adam to hi●● they used that language when 〈◊〉 spake to Pharoah Pharoah to him th●●● used that language when Paul spake to 〈◊〉 ●●grippa and Agrippa to him they used 〈◊〉 language and it was not unmannerly 〈◊〉 absurd with them neither do we read 〈◊〉 it was then accounted rudeness of spee●●● And although that this seems so stran●●● to the men of this generation yet it is 〈◊〉 proper phrase of the Scripture and 〈◊〉 language of all them of whom we read 〈◊〉 the Scripture Enq. I have not observed that so 〈◊〉 before but now in their buying and selli●●● how do they do are they of as many 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 other men or keep they to yea or nay in ●●eir communication Res. To yea and nay they keep knowing 〈◊〉 whatsoever is more cometh of evil 〈◊〉 when they have a commodity to sell ●●ey set a reasonable price of it and do not ●act upon the people and when that ●ey buy a commodity they proffer a rea●●nable Price for it for the which they ●●ppose the party may well afford it and ●at which they judge to be the value of ●e thing and so in few words dispatch●h and thus they abide in the Doctrine 〈◊〉 their Lord who hath said Let your yea 〈◊〉 yea and your nay be nay for whatso●er is more than these cometh of evil Enq. But men are so accustomed to many 〈◊〉 in their dealings one with another that should think men will scarce meddle with ●em in affairs if they will abate nothing of ●e price which they first set on their com●odity for that is most usuall among ●n Res. T is true it is usual among men to ●●ter many needless words in their deal●gs and to swear many grievous Oathes ●ecause they will not trust one another ●●t is not the manner of these People to ●o so neither have they freedom thereun●● in the least whereupon some of their Cu●toms have absented from them 〈◊〉 season and have made tryal of others 〈◊〉 they not finding such ●idelity in others 〈◊〉 such just upright dealings by them 〈◊〉 have returned again to this people 〈◊〉 made further proof of them have fou● their Commodity to be good and substa●●tial and well worth that which they ga● for it whereupon they have brought oth●● Customers with them acquainted the● with the condition o● the People that the would have so much as they asked and the they were not given to many words 〈◊〉 to the which the people in process of 〈◊〉 have well condescended so that now whe● they are known they are credited 〈◊〉 extraordinarily provoked by those th●● know them to superfluity of words and 〈◊〉 they come to use men to that which the● have been little accustomed unto to 〈◊〉 to few words in their buying and selling Enq That is well done of them yet 〈◊〉 much against them for it is said they 〈◊〉 not speak to men upon the way but passe 〈◊〉 them without saluting of them neither 〈◊〉 they doff their hats to any which gives gre●● offence to many wherefore do they carry th●m●selves so uncivilly Res. When they have occasion to spea● to any man they speak unto him wh●the● 〈◊〉 be upon the way or in the street or up●n the Market or in any other convenient ●lace but to salute men in a complement●ng way by doffing their hats unto them ●nd bowing before them and giving them ●attering Titles according to the custom ●nd manner of the world that they are 〈◊〉 free to do and that is a principal thing 〈◊〉 of the many which men have against ●hem although they honor all men in the ●ord without respect of persons and be●aveth themselves civilly towards all yet ●an doff their hat to none for that is an ●ct of as proud and uncivil persons as lives ●ho wil shew humility in that thing when ●hey are as proud in their heart as Haman●as and will deride and scorn those that ●annot for conscience-sake do it and these ●re they that are offended when it is not ●one and carry themselves uncivilly to ●ch as

which she was a Servant And the Spirit of the Lord these people wil not limit in male or female who are one in Christ Enq. What charity hath these People will they relieve the fatherless and widow c. Res. They have that charity which suffereth long which is kind and envieth not which vaunteth not it self nor is puffed up they have that charity which rejoiceth not 〈◊〉 iniquity but in the Truth which bear●●●h all things hopeth all things endureth 〈◊〉 things yea the Charity vvhich they ●●ve vvill never fail and therefore are ●●ey so charitable to the fatherless and ●iddows whom they rel●ive within their ●ates if they be naked they cloath them 〈◊〉 they be hungry they feed them if they 〈◊〉 destitute of Lodging they take them in 〈◊〉 discreetly they do it and with much ●isdome lest any should depend upon it ●nd live in idleness and this they do espe●ally to them of the houshold of Faith ●ho cannot work nor have not of their ●wn wherewith to subsist such they Re●eve that so there need be no Beggar in ●●rael Enq. According to the words in thy An●●er to my first Proposition so I find it that 〈◊〉 few words my first demand could not be ●swered but afterwards it would be more ●lly Truly I may say to thee as Agrippa ●id to Paul that he almost perswaded him to 〈◊〉 a Christian even so thou by thy sober 〈◊〉 plain Answers hast almost perswaded 〈◊〉 to be one of these people for verily I have 〈◊〉 desired to be satisfied in those things ●herein thou hast kindly resolved me like a ●●reind that desireth my eternal felicity and 〈◊〉 the future I hope not to entertain every unsavory report of them as some do but 〈◊〉 to withstand false Reporters for no●● have wherewith to answer them Res. I am glad that thou art so well●●tisfied and resolved for that was the 〈◊〉 thing that I aimed at excepting the 〈◊〉 of God and the clearing of these Peo●●● innocence from the very beginning 〈◊〉 when I wished thee to have patience a 〈◊〉 then I told thee that by the Lords a●●●stance I should endeavour to inform 〈◊〉 rightly and to resolve thee fully so far 〈◊〉 was allowed of God And now seeing 〈◊〉 it is come to this issue let me persw●●● thee to wait upon the Lord in his 〈◊〉 light which novv in some measure do●●● convince thee of his precious Truth 〈◊〉 vvhich these people do vvalk and be 〈◊〉 too forvvard in contending for them 〈◊〉 thou be one vvith them in the life a●● povver of Truth and then thou vvilt be ●●●able to ansvver their opposers as I ha● been by the Lords assistance to ansvv●● thy objections Enq. For my own particular I find mu●● more contentment in my self then I did a●● am for the present as an empty Vessel 〈◊〉 touching Objections against these people 〈◊〉 I know the subtilty of Sa●an is great 〈◊〉 may yet possess me wi●h do●bts and fear●● 〈◊〉 bring Objections into my mind when thou 〈◊〉 not with me to answer them and to 〈◊〉 me Therefore I entreat thee to tell me 〈◊〉 I should do in such a cause Res. Thy chiefest remedy in such a 〈◊〉 is to stand still in the light which ●●weth thee the subtilty of Satan to be ●at and enter not into consultations 〈◊〉 flesh blood for that is the way to 〈◊〉 in doubts and fears and the same that ●●teth them in vvill bring Objections 〈◊〉 thy minde and take Exceptions against 〈◊〉 Truth and against them that are in it 〈◊〉 all these thou must judge dovvn vvith 〈◊〉 light and let them be made thy foot●●ol then vvill that spark of love in thee ●●hich is tovvards the Truth become a ●●me vvhich many vvaters vvill not be 〈◊〉 to quench and vvhen things ariseth in 〈◊〉 mind which thou art not clear in nei●●●r can comprehend cumber not thy 〈◊〉 vvith them but dvvel low in the cross 〈◊〉 thy vvil then the aspiring mind from ●●ich frivolous objections doth arise 〈◊〉 come to be kept under the judgement 〈◊〉 then a principle of life thou vvi●t feel ●●ich will thresh and hew down thy lusts ●●●rupt desires and inordinate affections 〈◊〉 as these come to be mortified in thee ●wilt thou come to be brought into unity with the Lords people and to lye do●● with them in their Fathers bosom of lo● where I hope thou mayest at any 〈◊〉 find me in the general Assembly of 〈◊〉 Ransomed ones of the Lord where 〈◊〉 is sung to the Most High witho●● ceasing THE END ●OSTSCRIPT OR Something Written after ●Ultitudes of Objections may arise out of that mind against the truth which cannot close with truth to wit the carnal mind in which an irrecon●ble enmi●y lodgeth against the wayes of God the ●●●ship of God the righteousness of God and against truth of God in which these People are established that nothing can satisfie that unsatiable mind but 〈◊〉 and destruction for I know if many Volumes were ●it more then are in explanation and vindication of 〈◊〉 truth yet notwithstanding this busie mind would 〈◊〉 blemishes upon the truth through its defaming scan●●●●zing and reproaching of it whereby their minds 〈◊〉 to be blinded in whom death reigns so that they ●old no beauty nor comelines● in the pure everlasting 〈◊〉 being surprized with jealousies doubts and fears ●●●cerning the immutability the eternal excellency of the 〈◊〉 truth of God which to us that believe is exceed●●● precious and beauty glory and majesty we behold in 〈◊〉 which doth as far exceed the words beauty and glo●●● as the light of the sun exceeds the light of one sta● 〈◊〉 all things below to us that are saved are but as ●●oss and dung in comparison of the eternal living ●●●th of God the excellency of which hath not been ●own by the Apostates who have been Apostatized or ●●anged from that of God in them since the dayes of 〈◊〉 Apostacy But rejoyce O ye Saints and be exceeding glad who 〈◊〉 come out of that long dark and dolesom● Night of ●●ostacy where you were well acquain●e● with sorrow and grief unto the everlasting day of joy and glad●●● where sorrow sighing is sted away rejoyce I say 〈◊〉 joy unspeakable for the Lord God is your Shepheard 〈◊〉 you shal not want ●ut with the finest of the VVhea●● 〈◊〉 shall be ●ed in Pastures which are green a●d large 〈◊〉 your souls may delight themselves in fatness And 〈◊〉 this my friends that the Lord God will wipe away 〈◊〉 r●proach and sweep away the refuge of lies 〈◊〉 which your enemies who have smitten you with the 〈◊〉 of wickedness have with falshood hid themselves 〈◊〉 their rod shall not alwayes rest upon your Lot 〈◊〉 shall you alwayes be a prey unto them for the Lord 〈◊〉 will deliver you out of the hands of those that 〈◊〉 you and Kings and Princes he will rebuke for 〈◊〉 sak●s where●ore be of good chear in the Lord he 〈◊〉 shall come will come and will not tarry The End