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A04922 An answer to a letter of a Iesuit named Tyrie, be Iohne Knox; Answer to a letter of a Jesuit named Tyrie. Knox, John, ca. 1514-1572. 1572 (1572) STC 15062; ESTC S106716 35,936 92

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