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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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effect_n the_o same_o with_o mr._n ms._n and_o other_o by_o overthrow_v in_o my_o sermon_n the_o hypothesis_n of_o the_o covenant_n seal_n baptism_n succession_n to_o circumcision_n they_o be_v answer_v mr._n drew_n main_a argument_n page_n 23._o though_o his_o book_n by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o obey_v the_o present_a govenrment_n be_v judge_v to_o be_v write_v with_o sharp_a reason_n and_o mild_a language_n yet_o either_o there_o be_v four_o term_n in_o it_o or_o else_o it_o conclude_v we_o be_v to_o circumcise_v the_o dispute_n of_o mr._n baily_n have_v be_v show_v to_o be_v very_o fallacious_a if_o my_o letter_n to_o the_o press_n have_v find_v one_o willing_a to_o print_v it_o i_o desire_v to_o have_v mr._n bs._n argument_n in_o write_v beside_o these_o because_o he_o be_v better_o know_v to_o those_o of_o bewdley_n i_o compare_v not_o myself_o with_o man_n excellent_a in_o writing_n nor_o do_v i_o think_v i_o use_v the_o term_n silly_a people_n though_o mr._n 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i_o pray_v with_o he_o may_v perish_v of_o schism_n or_o zeal_n for_o it_o i_o be_o not_o conscious_a that_o truth_n i_o avouch_v will_v stand_v when_o mr._n bs._n rot_a pillar_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n to_o many_o question_n and_o charge_n in_o sundry_a page_n 213._o etc._n etc._n a_o answer_n may_v be_v gather_v from_o what_o be_v say_v before_o sect_n xix_o the_o six_o imagine_a error_n charge_v on_o i_o by_o mr._n b._n be_v clear_v from_o his_o censure_n mr._n b._n add_v a_o confutation_n of_o six_o of_o my_o pretend_a error_n the_o first_o be_v only_o a_o speech_n of_o i_o in_o conference_n on_o occasion_n of_o mr._n bs._n word_n in_o a_o sermon_n which_o be_v take_v to_o be_v a_o fling_n at_o i_o and_o my_o meaning_n be_v this_o that_o the_o truth_n i_o maintain_v and_o such_o like_o be_v about_o a_o thing_n of_o frequent_a practice_n so_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorance_n sin_n will_v be_v commit_v be_v not_o to_o be_v conceal_v when_o if_o it_o be_v it_o be_v like_a to_o 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