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A34082 The right of tythes asserted & proved, from divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, and positive laws with a just vindication of that sacred maintenance from the cavils of Thomas Elwood, in his pretended answer to the friendly conference. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1677 (1677) Wing C5488; ESTC R39378 85,062 252

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statute_n of_o 32_o h._n 8._o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o a_o estate_n of_o inheritance_n or_o freehold_a in_o tithe_n and_o in_o the_o countess_n of_o oxford_n case_n 5_o jacob._n a_o writ_n of_o dower_n be_v bring_v of_o predial_a tithe_n cook_n 2_o part_n in_o priddle_n and_o nappers_n case_n 9_o case_n see_v hughs_n abridgement_n tit_n dime_n §._o 1._o num_fw-la 9_o but_o tenure_n in_o dower_n be_v one_o kind_n of_o freehold_n as_o be_v show_v before_o it_o appear_v therefore_o that_o tithe_n may_v be_v sue_v for_o at_o law_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o other_o freehold_n may_v and_o therefore_o our_o law_n do_v esteem_v they_o no_o other_o than_o a_o freehold_a and_o it_o be_v a_o miserable_a shift_n of_o the_o baffle_a quaker_n to_o pretend_v they_o be_v only_o a_o freehold_n to_o the_o laity_n and_o not_o to_o the_o clergy_n since_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o when_o some_o of_o the_o tithe_n be_v alienate_v those_o very_a law_n which_o make_v the_o alienation_n do_v 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and_o which_o be_v the_o better_a subject_n and_o just_a person_n those_o who_o submit_v to_o the_o law_n and_o custom_n of_o their_o country_n and_o give_v unto_o all_o their_o due_n or_o those_o who_o revile_v the_o law_n and_o detain_v man_n right_n from_o they_o but_o ne_o suitor_n ultra_fw-la crepidam_fw-la i_o must_v not_o imitate_v t._n be_v extravagance_n while_o i_o do_v reprove_v they_o nor_o dare_v i_o say_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o profession_n of_o other_o man_n but_o with_o all_o due_a submission_n to_o such_o as_o be_v better_o learn_v in_o our_o law_n than_o i_o can_v pretend_v to_o be_v to_o who_o i_o shall_v free_o confess_v my_o error_n if_o i_o have_v say_v any_o thing_n on_o this_o subject_a that_o they_o shall_v not_o approve_v for_o law_n and_o reason_n §_o 35._o the_o quaker_n p._n 334._o think_v to_o overthrow_v these_o law_n and_o statute_n by_o repeat_v his_o old_a baffle_a falsehood_n viz._n that_o they_o be_v ground_v on_o this_o false_a supposition_n 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