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A75872	An answer to a book, titled, Quakers principles quaking: subscribed by the name of one Ralph Hale, with an epistle (so called) to the reader, subscribed with the name of one Zachariah Crofton. A principle of darkness, deceit, and confusion in Ralph Hale, and his fellow labourer in Sathans work Zachariah Crofton, is discovered by the Quakers principle, and the Quakers principle doth stand against the power of darkness, and all the false principles in the world, them to discover and lay open. The book was said to be modestly propounded by Ralph Hale, but in it I found so many lies, slanders, and false accusations, with confused, vain, and frivolous words, as many of them is not worth mentioning; yet, lest the author should boast in his mischief, I shall lay down somthing in answer to some few of them, in respect of the number of them. / A servant to the least in the houshold of faith, and the lest amonst his brethren, whose name in the flesh is William Adamson.	Addamson, William, 17th cent.	1656 (1656)	Wing A501; Thomason E897_3; ESTC R206690	24,865	37

taste of Hamans cup and if God had not put a Bit into thy jaws and a hook into thy Nostrils to draw thee back from thy cruelty and so limited and chained the power of the murthe●ing prince of darkness in thee I pray thee what height of mischief would thy cruelty have reached unto where it l ghts if thou had power to act it seeing thy compassion and pity would not afford a harmless and despised people their liberty but thy pity would subject them to a Bedlam Discipline Here thou shews thy self to be of thy old grandfather Cain who was active in mischief and murther a cruel and envi us man like thy self but here thou truly fulfils that Scrip●ure Prov. 12.10 The tender mercies of the Wicked are cruel Priest And thou vents forth a long Oration of foaming smoaky words in reviling the Light with as scornful Titles as possibly the Divel can invent and thou sayest The Light drives the soul from every duty Answ I say for the soul first know what it is before thou talk of its Daties and first know thy own duty to cease from lying for that the light drives the soul from every duty that is one of thy lies it is darkness that drives from good duties and not the light Prie. The subjects of it sanctifies no Sabbaths saith thou Answ I say whether we who are called Quakers or you who accuse us of Sabbath-breaking do more truly sanctifie a Sabbath let all that read these following words consider First Do not your hireling parish-masters on that day that you call your Sabbath sell the stuff that they have stolen and bundled together I mean their Sermons as they call them some say they invent them by study but I say they rather gather them by stealth out of old Authors and other men● labours and so are they that steal the word from their Neig●b●urs and say the Lord saith it and the Lord never spoke to them And do not they take fifty pounds an hundred two or three in the year more or less as they can get for the work that they generally do on that day Do they not make it their Market day to sell their stuff on Is th●s to sanctifie a Sabbath to the Lord And do not the people that follow them and so much cry them up think their own thoughts speak their own words and do their own works on that day Nay Do not many of them use vain drinking vain gaming and sporting on that day Will they not go to a Steeple-house one part of that day and spend the rest of it on their own lusts or labours Is this to sanctifie a Sabbath to the Lord And thus both priest and people are profane And whether do you believe that Christ suffered and rose again by which the worship was taken from the seventh day yea or nay And if Yea then do thou prove where it was tyed to one day above another again by any command in Scripture as a day in seven The Apostles held their meeting on the first day of the week and on other days of the week and so do we what hast thou now against us concerning the sanctifying of a Sabbath We wait on the Lord in filence as his Spirit guides us and we worship him in Spirit and as he reveals his word to us we speak as his Spirit gives us utterance both in praises and in prayers to our God on the day which he hath chosen to himself and so do we celebrate an everlasting Sabbath unto the Lord our God on the m●unt of his Hol●ness where the day is without night Priest Seeks not God at any time in Prayer saith thou Answ I say that is another of thy lies as they can w●tness who have been at our meetings Priest Craves not so much as a blessing on their meat and drink sayest thou Answ That is another of thy lies as many can witness who have eaten with us though we do not utter words outwardly at all times that we eat according to the exp●ctation of some men whose tongues are at their own or other mens command who have not the word immediate from the Lord but their own invented words and so they can utter that when they please or if another man bid them when he please●h then they can either crave a blessing or give thanks as ye call it and such craving as this which stands not in Gods counsel but in m●ns customs fashions and wills we do utterly deny and the example of Christ we own whose example we follow in our measures to the gl ry of his praises Priest In a word it throws off every Act of Religion sayest thou Answ It seems that the Father of lies is so fully seated in thee that he hath brought thee to his will to vent forth thy lies for this is another of them the light keeps all them that are guided by it in the pure Religion to relieve the strangers widdows and fatherless and the light keeps them unspotted of the world who are guided by it and the light denies all hypocrites and lyars like thy self who hath not power over their words all whose Religion is vain Priest And thou accusest us that we reprove the very worship of God Answ Zachariah Crofton if the worship of God had stood in lying thou had been grown very high in it and that God that gives thee to vent forth these lies and his worship we do reprove and d●ny and the God Truth and holiness and his worship which stands in spirit and truth which Christ speak o● we do own but the worship of the god of this world which stands in mens wills in outward forms times and customs observing of days moneths and times of eating and drinking and out-side washings sprinklings dippings plungings and the like outward dead helpless and needless shadows we do reprove and do deny them Priest And thou accuseth us that we reprove Prayer Reading Hearing Receiving of Sacraments and so forth Answ I say that ever we reproved the prayers of the righteous that is another of thy lies for we own it both in heart and voice but the Prayers of such liers as thou art and vain repetition of words we reprove and do deny them and for thy saying that we reprove Reading and Heari●g that is more of thy lies for reading of the Scripture and hearing of them read in the meas●re of the Spirit that gave them forth we do own and for receiving of Sacraments for which there is no Scripture we reprove and do deny it and return them back to the Pope who invented many of them and the true Baptisme and the Lords Supper according to the Scripture we own Priest Even all the practises of Piety they decry sayest thou Answ Zachariah Crofton that is another of thy lies thou labours hard to get thy measure full where did either thou or any man else hear any of us speak against a godly and pious life but

he cared little for the poor it seems no more dost thou and truly Judas seemed to have more honesty then we find in thee for he said the oyn●ment might have been sold and given to the poor but thou hast not so much as once mentioned that the Priests should seed the poor with the Tythe but have all to the hirelings Hale And in page 26. thou art talking of the Saints assemblies and a place where God hath promised his more especial presence the Church of God the pillar and ground of Truth sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale for the Saints assembl●es let them alone thou hast nothing to do with them thou must first come out of the Pop●s opinions there was never none of the Saints that hoped for a furnace in the grave to consume the remainders of corrupt nature in thou and all that doth so are of the Popes Assemblies and for the Church of God it is in God 1 Thes 1.1 and that is not the steeple-house nor any other limitted place set up in the will of man and for the pillar and ground of truth what hast thou to do to talk of it thou knowest nothing of it thy pillar and ground is the pillar and ground of deceit who talks of a furnace in the grave Hale And thou sayest it is truly desired of all Gods people that there were no corruption in your Churches as thou calls them Answ Ralph Hale How came thou to know that G●ds people desired it except some of them have told thee so for there was never none of Gods people that talked of a furnace in the grave as thou doest Hale And thou sayest there will be Tares amongst the wheat and it is the Lord of the Harvest his Decree that they shall grow together till the Harvest Answ Ralph Hale of the most wicked and cursed Tares that cumbers the wheat thou hast manifested thy self to be one in that thou talks of a furnace in the grave and thou ●hat knows not and sees not the Harvest come thou a●t that cursed and blasted Tare on which the mildew is fallen and from henceforth shalt thou find thy withering and decay except with speed thou repent Hale I shall be far from judging any of you saith thou and again I judge you not sayest thou Answ I say that is a subtle Curr that wi●l bite when he fawns and if thou dost not judge us to be such as have broken and rent our selves from the Church of God and the Body of Christ if thou dost not judge us to be such why dost thou term us to be such in thy Book Is not this double deceit and hypocrisie that is lodged in thee First to judge us unjustly and falsly and then to say thou wilt not judge us But it is the manner of an old Sophister to cover that in himself and lay it on others which he is mo●● guilty of himself Hale And in page 27. thou sayest Thou desires that we may be careful to try the Spirits whether they be of God or no for many false Spirits as well as false Prophets are gone out into the world sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale a more false Prophet then thou art and a more false Spirit then thou speaks from can scarce be gone forth into the world in that thou talks of a furnace in the g●ave a● all may re●d in thy Book page t●● 22. and seeing thou hast bidden us Try the Spirits we have tryed thine and we fi●d it to be a false popish Spirit and therefore we shall take heed of thee Hale Thou sayest thou heartily wisheth that we may return and joyn our selves to the Communion of the Saints in the Publique Ordinances of God that we may have a sweet fellowship and communion with the Father and tho Son as ever we had before your going out from us sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale both thee and all that are in fellowship with thee in thy popish opinions who call your selves saints and are not and your communion and your fellowship and your publique ordinances as you call them and your Father and that Son that leads you to hope for a furnace in the grave I do deny both you and them all for that Father is the Father of lies and that Son is the Son of perdition and those Ordinances are dead and carnal and popish that leads you into such things Hale And with which I will conclude sayest thou If either you or any man or men teach otherwise and consent not to the wholsome words of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the Doctrine which is according to godliness let him pretend as much humility as he can he is proud knowing nothing but doteth about questions and strife of words whereof cometh envie railing evil surmisings 1 Tim. 6.3 4. Answ Ralph Hale if t●ou might have mentioned Timothys words no more then thou had lived in Timothys life thou had been as dumb as those dogs that Isaiah speaks of and I pray thee see how Timothys words meets with thee who ta●ks of a furnace in the grave is that according to the wholsome words of our Lord Jesus C●●● and the doctrine which is according ●o godliness or is it according to the Popes Doctrine H●re be thy own Judge and let shame stop thy mouth And now I say to ye all in and about Liverpool and elsewhere to the light of Christ turn in your minds to that in the conscience which shews you sin and evil and check● and reproves you in secret for the evil of your ways to th t take heed that by it you may be guided up to God from whence the light comes as you tender your everlasting salvation and if you neglect this when the day of your trouble comes in which you cry wo and alas then remember that you were fore-warned in your life time to that in your consciences do I speak the light which comes from the Lord Jesus Christ and lighte●h every man that comes into the world which is the Saints guide and teacher to guide them up to God and the sure word of Prophesie to which they are to take heed and if by it you be guided it will lead you up to the Lord Jesus Christ and this is the way to salvation the light and there is no other way to salvation but Christ the light and if you walk contrary to the light then the light is your condemnation and to you all this is the Word of Truth witnessed by that in all the consciences shall it be when the Book of Conscience is opened Remember this and whilst you have time prize it W. A. The End

so swinishly minded that Christ spake those words to they coveted no mans gold nor silver and if they had food and rayment they would be therewith content but the dogs will never be content and here take heed thou have not called evil good and good evil remember thou hast denounced a wo in the Title page of thy book to them that do so and all who have an eye may here see that wo meet with thee and everlastingly it is thy portion except with speed thou repent Hale And in the 8 page thou sayest thou would gladly know whether we will acknowledge the whole Scripture to be the Word of God or no I mean the whole Bible sayest thou Answ I say if thou mean that the whole B●ble is the Word of God I say Nay for I do acknowledge no God but one nor no word of God but one and Christ is that Word the Bible is no more then a true declaration of what it declares the Bible ●s a declaration of those words that God spake but not the whole Bible some p●rt of it is a declaration of those words he divel spake Luke 4.3 6. the divel said unto him If thou be the Son of God c. and the divil said ●nto him All this power will I give thee Is this the words of God or the words of the divel And further if I should say that the Bible were the Word of God thou would give no credit to it except thou be a lyar for there is no Scripture saith so and in the 25 page of thy book thou sayest if it be not Law and Testimony proof thou wilt give no credit to it for shame do not m●ke thy self a lyar lest whilst thou goes about to make the Quakers Principles quake thou break thy own in pieces Hile. And in the 7 page thou said the ministers work is for the perfecting of the Saints for the edifying of the Body of Christ which is the Church sayest thou Answ I say if the Ministers work be for the perfecting of the Saints and for the edifying of the Body of Christ then see that thou do not deny perfection in this life lest thou leave the Ministers neither time nor place to do their work in for the work that the Ministers doth they must do it in this life The dead that die in the Lord rest from their labours and their works follow them Rev. 14.13 there is no perfecting of the Saints in the grave and for the Body of Christ which thou sayest is the Church it is risen from the grave for the Church is in God therefore see that thou do not leave the Ministers their work to do after this life Hale And in the tenth page line the 14. thou sayest But you say this Law so much insisted upon together with the Priesthood of it is changed and the Commandment disanulled and this you bottom upon Hebr. 7.12 and 18. sayest thou Answ I say here let all take notice that the very same words that we bear witness to that is the changing of the Law and Priesthood and the disanulling of the Commandments and that on which we have bottomed it as thou thy self art forced to confess they are plain Scripture words without adding or diminishing as they are written in Heb. 7.12 and 18. and here again let all take notice what Spirit thou speaks from that by thy inchantment would make it seem as though the Law and Priesthood were not changed and the Commandments not disanulled except in such sancies and imaginations as thy vain mind can admit of and so would prove the Apostle a Lyar. Hale And whereas thou sayest thou dost affirm that Moses and the Prophets and the Gospel are all one in substance and in effect the very same Answ Ralph Hale thou dost affirm that whereof thou knows nothing but by hear-say thou never yet came to Christ who is the Gospel and there is no other Gospel nor to the Prophets nor to Moses estate but thou art between Adam and Moses and there death reigns over thee and if thou might not have talked of Moses the Prophets nor the Gospel till thou had known Moses to give a Law against sin and the transgressor in thee and the Prophets to denounce Gods judgements against sin in thee and the Gospel of peace that makes free from sin we had not found so many Scriptures wrested in thy Book by adding thy cursed meanings and the plagues of God must be added to him that adds Hale And in page 11. line 15. thou sayest in respect of order of the Priesthood it is not changed with the next words thou confutes that again for saith thou Christ is a Priest for ever after the order of Meschisedec and in page 15 two of the last lines thou sayest Christ is a Priest not after the order of Aaron but after the unchangeable order of Melchisedec Answ Ralph Hale Is this the modesty that thou talks of in the Title page of thy book in which thou propounds this stuff Thou here confesses that Christ is a Priest not after the order of Aaron but after the order of Melchisedec Now let all consider whether the Levitical Priesthood of Aarons order under which the Law was given to the people was not changed when another Priesthood was risen called by the name of another order the one being called by the order of Aaron and the other by the order of Melchisedec as in Heb. 7.11 which thou thy self art forced to confess that Christ is a Priest not after Aarons order but after the order of Melchisedec though before in page 11. line 19. thou said in respect of the order of the Priesthood it is not changed And here all may take notice of thy spirit of consusion and what saying and unsaying of a thing thou makes But when the Leopard is without spots then will that nature that thou lives in be without confusion Hale And thou sayest Tythes of Divine Right do belong to the servants of Melchised●chs order Answ I say if Tythes belongs to the servants then the Masters have nothing to do with them therefore see that you give not them to them that are called masters for by thy own rule they do not belong to masters but servants and the servants of Melchisedechs order who are Ministers of the Gospel they n●ither do nor never did demand them but will be content with Gospel wages If we have food and rayment let us be therewith content 1 Tim. 6.8 Hale And thou sayest I might instance the Sacraments of old under the Law Answ Ralph Hale Where is now thy modesty that thou talks of in the Title page of thy Book in which thou propounds thy stuff It is far from modesty to make lies and here thou d●st both make and instance lies for there is no such thing as a Sac ament ever men ioned in all the time under the Law therefore that is not Law and testimony proof then wilt sure

and the workman is worthy his meat saith Christ Is not here a clear way form and kind in which preparation for meat in the Lords house Bring ye all the tythes into the store-house that there may be meat in my house saith the Lord and the sons of Levi who receiv●d the office of the Priesthood they might by that commandment take tythe of the people according to the Law whilest that Commandment was of force but this doth not make that the Ministers of the Gospel should t●ke tythes and contrary to that commandment or custome in those days purloyn it to their own ends and spoyl defraud and oppress the poor strangers widdows and fatherless by tyranny cruelty and oppression and then creep into their particular houses and live like fed hoggs of that which poor men labours for in the sw●at of their brows and somtimes with thin coats and slender diet and truly the Priests of England have exceeded their fore-fathers all the false Prophets dogs and hirelings that ever went before them in tyranny and abominable o●pression in sueing men at Law for Tythes and somtimes valuing the thing near to twice the worth and then take treble damage according to that unjust valuation and se●ze upon their goods and take them away upon that unjust account which is contrary to the just Law of the Nation This was done by Priest Whithed for one amongst the rest priest at Halton in Lancashire near Lancaster and haling mens bodies into Prison and the like savage Tyranny as was never done by any of the false Prophets their fore-fathers and thus lives the hirelings in England instead of feeding the poor with Tythes they spoil the poor for Tythes now the Priests under the Law were to eat and be satisfied even so hath the Lord ordained that they that preach the Gospel should l●ve of the Gospel for the workman is worthy of his meat Mat. 10.10 And have we not power to eat and to drink saith the Apostle 1 Cor. 9.4 and again it is written in the Law of Moses Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the Ox that treads out the corn Now we know and I hope so do you all that the manner of that ●x●mple of the Ox●s that he should eat end be satisfi●d and not to have a great deal more then is need ul to spoil and lie by him whilest the rest of the exen were l●ke to st●●v● with want I speak this by way of comparison I know the Apostl s spoke for the Mi●isters s●ke only and I 〈◊〉 so do you all that their mouths might not be ●●sled or straitned to eat and be satisfied and have a sufficiency for fo●d and ●ayment I pray you see this c mparison of the Ox●● Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the Ox c. and compare it with other Scriptures and you shall prau●ly see that Gods minis●ers that he appointed to wait on his service were only to have a s●fficiency for food a●d rayment and were t● be ●herewith satisfied and content and you shall find that the Tythes were appointed for a due preparation of meat in the Lords house and the greatest part for the maintenance of the poor strangers widdows and fatherl●ss and the Levi e because he had no inheritance with the rest of the people he was not to be forsaken but to eat and be satisfied Now I say compare that of the Ox Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the Ox compare it with 1 Cor. 9.7 Who plants a Vin●ard and eateth not of the fruit hereof or who seeds a flock and eateth not of the milk of the flock and ver 4. Have not we power to eat and drink and having food and rayment let us be therewith content 1 Tim. 6.8 compare th●se with Deut. 14. and the 29. The Levite because he hath no part nor i●heritance with thee and the stranger and the fatherless and the widdow which are within thy gates sh●ll come and shall at and be satisfied Thus you see that all along both under the Law and Gospel Gods ministers were to have a sufficiency for food and rayment and were therewith to be satisfied and content and here in Deut. 14.26 the Levite was to eat and he was then to be satisfied Observe these words Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel and having food and rayment let us be therewith content saith ●he Apostle But I s●y the dogs will never be coatent for they will never have enough saith the Prophet Isa 56.10 11. and if a man should throw all the meat that he had amongst many dogs they would fall out about it I pray you see what your Priests do about Viccarages Parsonages and the like gains which they seek from their quarters do they not fall out about them and it is no new thing to be troubled with such greedy dogs as seeks their gains from their quarters it is as old as Isaiahs Prophesie proveable and I say he that takes more then food and rayment for preaching he is out of the example of the Gospel Ministers and in the example of the dogs that Isa speaks of and so one of them se●king gain to himself Hale And thou saith that God appointed the tenth part to be paid under the Law Answ So did God appoint outward Circumcision under the Law Hale But God appointed the tenth part to be paid before the Law saith thou Answ I say that ever God appointed it before the Law that is left to thee to prove where and when and by what rule or command he appointed it and I say God did not onl● appoint Circumcision but he gave Abraham an express command not to neglect it he nor his seed after him in all their generations And the uncircumcised man-child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised that soul shall be cut off ●r●m his people he hath broken my Covenant saith the Lord Gen. 15. from the tenth to the fourteenth and this you can well agree to that the outward practise thereof is taken out of the way blotted oat and nailed to the Cr●ss for this would bring you little gains from your quarters but Tythes you say must needs of Divine Right be kept up but if it be not for filthy luc●●s sake let all honest hearts consider Hale And thou affirms that tythes or the tenth part was never expresly tak●n off Answ I say Tythes are as fully taken off and it is as provea●le as the worship is from the seventh day and as outward Circumcision is taken off to all that believe that the Lord Jesus Christ suffered for mans redemption and role again the third day for one and the same Christ that finished and took off the one he finished and took off the other at the same time for saith the Apostle Blotting out the hand-writing of ordinances and nailed it to his Cross Col. 2.14 and having abolished in his flesh the enmity even the

sayest Christ is perfection it self now I say If Christ be perfection it self and if perfection be not attainable in this life by this thou makes void all labouring and striving to attain to Christ in this life who said Come unto me all ye that are weary and heav●e laden and so you that are without perfection in this life you are without Christ in this life by thy own confession Hale And thou sayest Who-ever thou art that boastest of standing upon the feet of thy own perfection I say unto thee in the name of the Lord if thou standest at all thou standest by Faith Be not high minded but fear sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale When wilt thou cease from this secret sl●ndering and cunning fly ginns that thou hast to utter thy deceitful and hard speeches against us in for I see the Divels drift in thy words is to present us to the world as they that boasted of their own perfection and all such boasting and boasters we do deny both in word and thought and before Gods Judgement seat do I stand justified in this thing and when the Book of Conscience is opened thou shalt find this true and then shalt thou with the rest of Cains and Ishmaels brood receive a just reward for all your hard and scornful speeches against us And the perfection which we own is the perfect righteous glory of God in Christ manifested in the creature which is attained unto and enjoyed by the faith of the Son of God in the light abiding and not else therefore unknown to thee and all self righteousness and perfections we do utterly deny Hale And thou reckons up four perfections one after another in the 21 and 22 pages First Thou sayest there is an imputative perfection Secondly There is perfection in part sayest thou And thirdly There is a comparative perfection And fourthly and lastly There is an absolute perfection sayest thou And three of them thou wilt acknowledge to be attainable in this life and the fourth unattainable All which I shall by the assistance of God make clear by Scripture and that very briefly sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale Here again thou wants that mod●sty that thou s●eaks of in the Title page of thy book to propound thy stuff in for here thou was more brief and hasty then e●ther modest or wis● in saying thou would make it cl●ar by Scripture that there is four perfections I say there is no Scripture that spe●ks of four perfections thou may prove it as soon as thou can and by what thou can for if there be four perfections they are more then we own or ●ver spoke of or ●ver knew of by three of them and thou sayest that three of them is at a n●ble in this life and when we say there is but one perfection attainable in this life you are angry with us and deni●s it and some will say it is blasp●emy yet in thy modesty hast propounded three for your selves I say those three strange perfections that thou talks of shall be for your selves for we own no perfection but one and that is the perfect righteous glory of God in Christ Jesus the everlast●ng covenant of life light and peace given by the measure of the gist of Christ the light and manifest in the creature to the glory of the praise of God and the least measure of that is perfect and what is perfect is absolutely perfect according to the measure of the gift of God and the gift of God is absolutely perfect and there is no image or likeness to be made of perfection he that calls any thing else perfection is an Image-maker and a Wizard Hale And in page the 22. thou sayest There is an absolute perfection when the members shall be made like Christ our Head when we shall be glorified together with him when these vile b●dies shall be made like his glorious body sayest thou but I say observe these following words when all the remainders of corrupt nature shall be consumed in Gods furnace I mean the grave sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale Here let all take notice that thou hast affirmed that perfection is not attainable till all the remainders of corrupt nature shall be consumed in Gods fornace and let them take notice that thou sayest thou means the grave I say here we smell the evil factor of the Pope in thee and by this thou lays open and plain your secret sub●le masked pop●ry which you hold up and truly thou hast dealt more plainly and honestly then the old Serpent will do in many of you in that thou hast told us of a furnace in which the remainders of your corrupt nature must be consumed before that you can be perfect and sayest thou means the grave for ●ere thou hast fully unmasked Antichrist and the Pope in you that he begins to appear in his own colours and it is no marvel if you deny perfection in this life that hopes for a furnace in the grave to c●nsume the remainders of your corrupt nature in but I pray thee how far lies that furnace that thou talks of in the grave from the Popes purgatory and what difference between them and whether it is not the same yea or nay though thou would colour it over with another name put upon it and so if it were possible thou would deceive the very elect with it but is that furnace that thou talks of in the grave the power by which thou wilt make the Quakers principles so to quake that thou so highly boasts or in Titleing thy book Quakers principles quak●ng But if whilst thou hast gone about to make the Quakers principles quake I say if that while thou hast not brok●n thy own in pieces let all who have the eye of discerning consider it Hale And whereas thou talks of Christ your head and you his members for thou sayest when we the members shall be made like Christ our head Answ Ralph Hale Thou may own the Pope for thy head whilst thou talks of a furnace in the grave and for Christ thou hast put him at a great distance from you in that thou sayest Christ is perfection it self and yet saith perfection is not attainable in this life here by thy own words Christ whom thou sayest is your head and thou sayest he is perfection it self and you members must never meet together whilst you are in this life Thus thou hast put a great distance between Christ and you in that thou sayest Christ is perfection it self and yet saith perfection is not attainable in this life Hale And in page 25. thou art talking of a full answer to our paper Answ Ralph Hale if thou wilt answer it fully when will thou answer that part of it about the Priests that if they will take tythes they should feed the poor strangers widdows and fatherless with them but it was the practice of Judas who was a thief and betrayed Christ to plead hard for somthing to put in the bag but