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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	day_n	place_n	sabbath_n	10,594	5	9.6630	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A88305	A short ansvver of Iohn Ling to the 16. quæres of Ioseph Heming, about Christmas. Wherein all the care that can be is taken to avoyd expence of paper, so much having beene spoyled already ...	Ling, John.	1648 (1648)	Wing L2335A; ESTC R179758	3,364	8

A short ANSVVER OF IOHN LING To the 16. Quaeres of Ioseph Heming about CHRISTMAS Wherein all the care that can be is taken to avoyd expence of paper so much having beene spoyled already For Wer 't not for Christmas which is nigh When fruit spice eaten and digested Pie Calls for more paper no man could make shift How to employ JOS. HEMING to his thrift Printed in the Yeare 1648. A short Answer of Iohn Ling to the 16. Quaeres of Ioseph Heming about Christmas IT is perceived that one Joseph Heming not long before Christmas 1648. as by his printed Paper doth appeare from his Study in Vttoxeter otherwise and vulgarly Vxter in the sayd yeare doth challenge all those who can write and reade to answer his 16. Quaeries concerning the observation of the Feast of Christmas or the Nativity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to which I John Ling having been a Grammer Schollar and having seene somewhat in the world both in this Church and the Reformed beyond Sea doe make this Answer The first Quaere Whether such religious customes as are binding to all the Churches of Iesus Christ ought not to have sure footing upon the Word of God or Apostolicall practice Resp. Because I will not make Paper deare by long Answers or Recitalls I say such Religious Customes as are binding to all the Churches of Jesus Christ ought to have footing upon the word of God or Apostolicall practice The second Quaere Whether you can substantially prove that Christ was borne on the 25 of December And what your proofes are Resp. It is not materiall I or no whether I can prove that Christ was borne on the 25 of December as it now standeth in the English Calendar The third Quaere Whether the celebration of that day grant he was borne on it can be clearely warranted by you from Scripture And what your Scriptures are Resp. It imports no more then what is answered in the first and second The fourth Quaere Whether you can cleare it by sound consequence from the New Testament though not set downe there in totidem verbis Resp. It is cleared by sound consequence both from the Old and New Testament that the day of the Birth of our Saviour God and man should be kept with Festivity I will now first give you instance in the Angels song to the Shepheards Glory be to God on high on earth peace good will towards men see the 118 Psalme 22.23 and 24. verses The stone which the builders refused is the head of the corner which is interpreted in the New Testament to be meant of Christ 24. This is the day which the Lord hath made wee will rejoyce and be glad in it which all good Interpreters say to be meant by the day of the Birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Many places there are in Isaiah and other of the Prophets So that now you have better proofes from Scripture for keeping holy an Anniversary day for the celebration of the Birth of our Lord then for changing the Sabbath to the Lords day the proofes whereof are chiefely grounded upon Apostolicall Custome Isaiah 28.16 Math. 21.42 Acts 4.11 Rom. 9.33 1. Peter 2.6 and 7. The fifth Quaere Whether you can doe it by universall tradition Resp. It s done by Universall Tradition and in that I will bring it to the Customary Practice of the Reformed Churches of Dutch French and Geneva The sixt Quaere Whether in case it can be evidenced by none of these viz. plaine Text sollid Inference universall Tradition it be not a meere humane invention and so Will worship And how you will one day acquit your selves before God for placing and crying up mens Inventions instead of the institutions of Iesus Christ And whether it were not faithfull dealing with poore simple people to tell them that you have neither of these to warrant it Resp I answer it were false dealing to tell Christian People that which were untrue The seaventh Quaere Since dayes and times commanded by God himselfe to be observed under the Law were and are unlawfull under the Gospel Whether dayes and times commanded by men and not by God under the Gospell are not lesse lawfull Resp If this day and time were onely commanded by men it were unlawfull so far as to command it as a meere Religious duty The eighth Quaere Whether the true and genuine Interpretation of Christmas be Christ man And whether to perswade people 't is so be not to abuse and delude them And whether we may not as well interpret Candlemas Candleman Michaelmas Michaelman as Christmas Christman Resp Because you make sport and have brought in a Gamboll That I have a conjecture that Joseph Heming is some Schoole Master or some great Schoole Boy that can interpret the Latine Mas for a man and then Christmas is Christman and certainely it is to abuse people to perswade them so and so of the rest But I have heard what was answered Dr. Lambe by a good fellow to whom he objected to have sayd Christyde and why not as well Tom tyde The Answer was he could say Christmas or Thomas or Lambe asse and so he left him and so doe I you with your Gamboll The ninth Quaere Whether the Saints are bound to rejoyce in the Birth of Christ on that day men superstitiously call Christmas more then at other times And whether the Lords day be not the day appoynted for them to rejoyce on Resp You begge the Question of Superstition and so untill you frame the Argument out of the Question in Moode and Figure I shall answer you no more upon that poynt The tenth Quaere Whether Christmas day ought in any respect to be esteemed above another of the Weeke dayes And whether people may not without offence to God follow their lawfull vocations on that day Resp That by the established Lawes of this Kingdome in the times of the first Reformation and still continued this is commanded to be kept as a holy day The eleaventh Quaere Whether you thinke the Parliament and Assembly have erred and played the fooles in condemning and rasing out Holy dayes not warranted in the Word And whether to observe them be not highly to dislike and flatly to contradict in poynt of practice at least their proceedings in order to a Reformation Resp. I say it is a Proposition of ill language and therefore I say no more but demand of you whether you thinke the first Reformers that suffered Martyrdome were Fooles and Knaves The twelfth Quaere Whether since most men and women in England doe blindely and superstitiously beleeve Christ was borne that day preaching on it doth not nourish and strengthen them in that beliefe Resp At first you begge the Question but to the second part of it I say since preaching is lawfull upon any day so is it expedient if not necessary upon a day commanded The thirteenth Quaere Whether this Feast had not its rise and growth from Christians conformity to the mad Feasts Saturnalia kept in December to Saturne the Father of Gods in which there was a Sheafe offered to Ceres Goddesse of Corne a hymne in her praise called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And whether those Christians by name to cloake it did not afterwards call it Yule and Christmas as though it were for Christs honour And whether it be not yet by some more ancient then truely or knowingly religious called Yule and the mad playes wherewith 't is celebrated like those Saturnalia Yule games And whether from the offering of that Sheafe to Ceres from that song in her praise from those gifts the Heathens gave their friends in the Calends of January ominis gratia did not arise or spring our blazes Christmas Kariles and New yeares gifts Resp. Whether this Feast had not its Rice from Christians conformity to the mad Feast Saturnalia I answer I thinke it a very mad Question But I confesse in some Nations they call that Feast Yule and amongst your brethren the Scots they call it Zule as I have found it in their Callenders but untill you can prove that those Nations speake Greeke you will be far to seeke for your Argument Therefore good Mr. Schoolemaster or Schooleboy leave off your Etymologies for you will finde it hard to prove that Christians used to celebrate this Feast in any relation to the Saturnalia or Ceres Songs The fourteenth Quaere Whether conformity to and retention of Heathenish Customes be commendable in Christians sutable or agreeable with Gospel Principles though under pretext of Christs Honour and Worship Resp. In the Negative it is not lawfull but how will you apply it John Ellis I cry you mercy Joseph Heming The fifteenth Quaere Whether you are not bound to prove your practice for the conviction and satisfaction of your Brethren whose duty it is to walke with you in things agreeable to the minde of Christ And in case you cannot Whether you ought not to acknowledge your errour lay downe your practice as others have done theirs no longer befooling and misleading the people committed to your charge I answer this reproofe would serve for a Preacher if he had misled his people of which number I am not but if this charge be unjust see how you disobey the Lawes of God and man The sixteenth Quaere Whether in case you returne no Answer to these Quaeries I have not ground sufficient to conclude you utterly unable to give any rationall account of your practice now put upon it Resp. Whether I have answered your Quaeries or no Let me know it by your confession or Reply From no great Study this 23 of Dec. 1648. FINIS