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A47203 Truths plea for infants, or, Infants right vindicated in a reply to Jeremiah Ives, chees-munger concerning the baptisme of infants. By Alexander Kellie. Kellie, Alexander. 1656 (1656) Wing K238A; ESTC R216626 26,367 49

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with whom it was made 2. Ye say that the Covenant in Deut. is another besides that when they came out of Egypt vvhen the Lord gave them the Law in the ten Commandements There can be but two Covenants viz of Works or of Grace But vvhat ever you may think that they were two Covenants differing essentially yet in truth they were both of Grace for vvhen the people came out of Egypt the Lord was a Husband to them in that Covenant therefore it vvas a Covenant of Grace Jer. 31. v. 32 And the Covenant in Deut. The Apostle calls it the righteousness of Faith therefore the Covenant of Grace also Craftily ye bid compare the 10 and 12. Verses of the 29. Chapter of Deuteronomy leaving out the 11. between them because it is full against you and the Covenant of Grace is one and the same though it be many times renued Next we come to the forty fifth page In handling the Covenant you shew your selfe grosly ignorant and know not what ye say yet ye would have m● believe whatever ye say but when your Nose is Cheese the Cats shall eat it In these times and places wherein we live God hath done vvonderfull things yet vve have been so unthankfull and unfruitfull that vve have not yet had hearts to perceive nor eyes to see to this day and yet we are not Infidells so it vvas vvith the Israelites in such a case they still believed the Lord to be their God Paul in Rom. 11. v. 8. doth not allude to Deut. 29. v. 4. but to Esa 29. v. 10. that sin vvas growing upon the people in Moses and Isaiahs time but it came not to a full ripeness till the Apostles time for before they were lookt upon as branches in the Olive but then cut off The vvorst Parents whose children I Baptize are sounder in the faith then the best Anabaptiste vvith you so you are rotten Heriticks The very same men whom you call unbelievers Deut. 29. v. 4. Moses Deut. 30. v. 14. saith The word was very nigh unto them in their mouth and in their heart that they might do it 2. This word being in the heart of the Parents to believe it and in their mouth to confess it entered the little ones into Covenant with God Deut. 29. v. 11 12. This way the Apostle calls the righteousness of faith Rom. 10. v. 6. and this he Preached v. 8. Therefore the Fathers faith and Confession must still enter the children in Covenant with God which cannot now be without Baptisme which is the initiating token of the Covenant Sir It is one thing to be in Covenant which I proved first and another thing yet consequently following to have the token of the Covenant which the femalls were not capable of in Circumcision as now in Baptisme as Acts 8. v. 12. And Gods Argument is sufficient for Infants right to the token from the Covenant and though then he prefixed a certaine time yet it was still in their infancie and so still now in Infancie where we have no prefixed time Thus to your forty seven page but before I come to the forty eight I must remember some good stuffe in the forty sixt where you say you are relieved from desparing of me by a Latine Sentence which is Opere in longo c. and it speaks of sleepe and you of despare O brave Clarke you understand your Latine well and apply it better but do not sleep yet up run Robbin the Ram is in the Rye the Prophesie in Ezek. 37.25 is to children and to childrens children and that for ever and the Lord saith He will set his tabernacle amongst them which must be his out ward Ordinance now children can have no outward Ordinance if Baptisme be denied Where you bring in Noah it is to no purpose Where ye say I may as well say a childe is Christ as Baptize it if you mean Christ personally ye speak blasphemy if ye meane Christ collectively with his members Christ then is so taken in Scripture as I Cor. 12.12 Gal. 3.16 Ye have abundance of Non sense in the forty nine page to which I Answer Baptisme was never ordained for Angels as for Infants and the Apostles being once received to the Church needed not to be twise Baptized and so be Anabaptists In the fifty page Ye say no man denies that they were Infants whom Christ blessed when he tooke them in his Arms. I never knew an Anabaptist confess it before and these Infants had that from Christ which was better then all you can make of your dipping and yet they believed and understood and confessed as little being as you say Infants as they do now at Baptism and here we find that Christ laid his hands upon them but no where they received the Supper and what ye speak of teaching I have Answered already and if you were ingenuous where one Reason doth not seem to give you satisfaction take in my other reasons with it and then a threefold cord is not easily broken Nam quae quod non prosunt singula multa juvent where you say Jesus Baptized none Iohn 4. v. 1. it appeared he did Baptize Christ is said to do what the Apostles did by his Command as Peter may be said to have Baptized Corneliousses house though the Text only saith Acts 10. v. 48. that he commanded them to Baptized Infants have a right to all the priviledges of the Church and to the Kingdome of heaven but that right is as by reversion but they have a right to Baptisme in their Infant injoyment To the fifty second p. As the Jewes were cut off the Gentles were ingrafted but the Jewes vvhen they stood or vvere cut off or shall be restored both they and their children were so and so it is with the Gentiles To the fifty third page I say all that are of the flesh are not truly begotten of God and yet many after the flesh were after the Spirit also nevertheless all of them in out ward Church priviledges and though a great many of them be cast into out ward darknese yet are to be lookt upon as the children of the Kingdome Mat. 8. v. 12. All that had the token of Gods Covenant were reckoned as Abrahams seed in Covenant but such were not only the children of the flesh in outward priviledges but the Infants also of the Proselites after the flesh and consequently our Infants being Gods people by Nature and not sinners of the Gentiles Gal. 2. v. 15. but Gal. 3. v. 16. the Apostle calls this seed Christ therefore members of Christ therefore ver 27. fit to have Christ put on them by Baptisme To the fifty fourth page The vvives sanctification and the holines of the childe differ the child is holy faederally by the Covenant with the believing Parent but the unbelieving wife is set apart for the sanctified cohabitation of the believing husband with her Unbelievers being married their marriage is lawfull but not sanctified Tit.