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A54518 The pamphlet of the lyar discovered (Printed Anno 1678), in A brief reply to a malitious sheet spread in and about Hartford, &c. called The voice of the light, &c. Peterson, James. 1678 (1678) Wing P1729; ESTC R33388 6,223 10

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never was in being it self and if I Plow not no Corn will grow and I Mowe not if no Hay is made and by Gift he can have no Title because Nemo dat quod non habet i. e. no man can give that which was never his to bestow as the labour of the Child yet unborn And by Purchase he cannot claim it for the same reasons also and if a Father should Sell and inslave his Child without his Childs privity or consent the Law of England disowns such slavery And therefore when England turn'd Christian it disowned all those Laws and Customs and Villinages that were before And if the Whites should turn Blacks and Sell their Children for bondslaves yet it is not unlawful for such Children to free themselves when they come to a good understanding Tythe is no property as hath been said until by my own Act I set it out for it cometh not by the Land nor challenge the tenth of the Rent nor tenth Acre bu the tenth of the increase renewing and growing in and upon the Premises c. Thus its manifest by the true Light which the Priests scorn that the Minister or Rector so called hath no Right or Title by Law without my free Gift or Consent But saith the Pamphleter the Seller abates of his Rates on consideration that the Lands are Tythable c. Ans Those that buy Lands the cheaper in times of trouble when great Taxations are laid upon them that hinders not but they may and ought to enjoy them free when they come to understand that such Taxations are unjustly or wrongfully laid upon their Land The Light saith the Pamphleter saith do unto others as you would that they should do unto you c. The Quakers say so too and affirm the Pamphleter to be that unprofitable Servant or Rector that is guilty of the breach of this commandment who requires Tythes where he hath done no Service nor given any Spiritual thing and would reap where he hath not sown and demands dues of them that never reaped any Spiritual benefit by him and yet claims it by the Law of the Nation which saith quite the contrary viz. Dr. and Student an approved Law Book Cap. 4. p. 7.8 The Laws of Princes the Commandments of Prelates the Statutes of Commonwealths nor yet the ordinances of the Church is not righteous nor obligatory except it be consonant to the Law of God and by such Law of man as is consonant to the Law of God it appeareth who hath right to Lands and Goods and who hath not for whatever a man hath by such Laws of the Nation he hath righteously and whatsoever a man hath against such Laws is unrighteously had Now the Divine right of Tythes being long since quitted and not insisted on by the Pamphleter himself as I have heard hath been denyed openly in Westminster-Hall and now I know not how he can get them except like the Son of Belial mentioned 1 Sam. 2.16 who said If thou wilt not give it me I will take it by force And for his Plea of Vsage and Cust me c. Ans All Customs and Usages are either good or bid now good they cannot be because they are both against the Law of God and the old Laws of the Land as is proved before bid then must they needs be and mala cousuetudo abolenda saith the Lord Cooke i. e. bad Custom ought to be abolished The Light saith the Pamphleter tells you that you should give unto Cesar the things that are Cesars c. Ans The Pamphleter is so concerned with getting his Tythes that he forgets or like SATAN purposely omits part of the Text viz. to give to God the things that are Gods but it seems if he can get Cesar on his side he cares not though God be against him and if he can get the thing of Tythes he matters not what becomes of the things of God if he hath but the Fleece he cares not what becomes of the Sheep But the Quakers light as he calls it teacheth them first to fear God and then they honour the King First to give God the things that are Gods and then to give Cesar the things that are Cesars and when both those are done no Tythes belong to him as Minister or Rector The rest of his sheet is stuffed with such nonsence as this sometimes charging the Light with what it never said and sometimes the Quakers with what they never did and deals with both as wicked Ahab dealt with honest Micaiah viz. if possible he could have forced him to speak what he would have him to say I find him complaining of his honest Neighbours You saith he remove my Land-mark You saith he with-hold my Dues c. just like Athaliah against Joash Treason Treason when the will of the Lord was Executing upon her Let us now for poor peoples sake consider whether the Quakers in this day be not justified by many of the ancient Martyrs in their days whobare the like Testimony against Tythes as may be seen at large in the Book of Martyrs viz. John Wickliffe in 17. Article charged against him in these words viz. That Tythes are pure Alms and that the Parishioners may for offence of their Curates detain and keep them back and bestow them upon others at their own wills and pleasures William Swinderbey saith that no Priest ought to Sell by Bargain and Covenant his Ghostly travel ne Prayer ne Gods Word c. nor any-worldly mens reward to ask or take for these or for any of these c. Walter Brute in these words that Tythes are mere Alms and in case that Curates shall be ill that they shall be lawfully bestowed upon others by the temporal owners and that a Priest receiving by bargain any thing of yearly annuity is in so doing a Schismatick c. William Thorpe saith thus After Christs Ascention and when the Apostles had received the Holy Ghost they Travelled with their hands to get their livelyhood when they might thus do for busie Preaching therefore by the example of himself St. Paul teaches all the Priests of Christ to Travel with their hands when for busie teaching of the People they might thus do whose Priesthood God accepteth now and will do unto the worlds end and saith in the year 1211. Pope Gregory the Tenth Ordained new Tythes firste to be given to Priests in the new Law but St. Paul whose example all Priests of God ought to follow c. who wrought with his hands to get his living and it were good Counsel if all Priests took good heed to this Heavenly learning of St. Paul following him here in willful Poverty nothing charging the People for their bodily livelyhood c. for certain in whatsoever Dignity or Order that any Priest is in if he conform him not to follow Christ and his Apostles in willful poverty and in other Heavenly Virtues c. though such a one be named a Priest yet he is no