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A36145 A Dispute betwixt two clergie-men upon the roade in which is discovered how unhumanly the one set upon the other in his journey, and at last rejected his company, refusing to dispute with him / published bya friend of the respondents. 1651 (1651) Wing D1679; ESTC R32789 3,769 8

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the yoak which is the sense if you observe the scope of the Apostle in the Chapter but I deny that that text bindes a man upon paine of damnation to a particular trade or that it tyes God onely to Graduates for the worke of the Ministry Q. But I pray how shall a man understand the Scripture without knowledge of the Originall tongues A. There are Ministers that have not beene Graduates that understand the tongues and I deny not but some have beene ordained that have not beene very expert in the Latine tongue yet thankes be to God wee have the Scriptures translated and neither you or any learned man else is able to shew such a considerable difference betwixt the Originall and our English translation as shall forbid such either reading or the understanding of the Scriptures if they be industrious and if the case stand so as the Church of God have neede of such for the Ministry the Churches good ought to be preferred before any mans private interest yet I would advise such to get as much knowledge of the tongues as possible they can and not to rest on what they have already attained that they may be able to convince gainesayers for 't is necessary that a Minister bee able to defend the truth as well as preach it Q. I thinke thou art a Roundheaded Rascall that never got yet above thy greeke Lexicon the Churches good what doth it make for the Churches good to suffer such Preachers are they not heretiques and very prophane in their lives A. I could wish that it could not be said of those Ministers that have been Graduates in the Universities that the most part of them are either unsound in judgement or lead wicked lives which will make their account the more dreadfull another day for my part such as those are whether they have been graduates or not graduates unlesse they repent they had better be removed faithfull pastors put in their roome than continued in their places to make the sacrifice of the Lord to be abhord or to leade people out of the ancient paths of life Q. Well I see you will incourage tradesmen to enter into the Ministry A. Sir I would be loath to incourage any Scholar or tradesman either to enter into the Ministry unlesse he be able to prove he is inwardly called of God to the Ministry as well as externally by man lest God make him an example as he did Vzziah Korah Dathan and A●iram or blast his ministry or give him over to a spirit of errour or lest the same judgments befall him that may befall any that run before they be sent but I pray sir let us dispute the matter in hand syllogistically whether or no he that is inwardly called of God outwardly called by those the Scripture Authorize to call him be not a lawful Minister of Jesus Christ though he have not beene a Graduate in a University And secondly whether he that is not inwardly called of God nor outwardly by those the Scripture authorize to ordaine Ministers or though he be outwardly called and yet want the inward call whether he may dare to preach though he have been a graduate and for my part I shall be willing to yeeld to any thing that appeares truth Q. If thou hadst not been a Roundheaded Rascall thou shouldest have been my companion but I question whether thou canst frame a Syllogisme worth a flea and therefore I will neither talke journey eate or drinke or any thing else with thee any longer but I leave thee to the fiend so vale the devill take thee A. Vulgo dicitur doctrinae solertes ut plurimum politicarum vel agendarum rerum non sunt maxime experti FINIS