Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
lord_n day_n observe_v sabbath_n 17,846 5 10.0492 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A18080 The second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline Cartwright, Thomas, 1535-1603. 1575 (1575) STC 4714; ESTC S107569 585,778 717

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

man_n do_v see_v that_o i_o have_v good_a cause_n to_o charge_v you_o as_o i_o do_v and_o even_o now_o your_o answer_n which_o you_o make_v be_v express_o against_o that_o which_o you_o have_v write_v before_o for_o you_o affirm_v that_o the_o lord_n day_n be_v in_o the_o number_n off_o those_o which_o not_o to_o observe_v or_o once_o to_o call_v in_o question_n be_v mere_a madness_n but_o in_o your_o former_a book_n after_o recital_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n and_o other_o thing_n which_o you_o account_v indifferent_a you_o close_v up_o which_o this_o sentence_n that_o there_o be_v none_o so_o simple_a which_o understand_v not_o that_o the_o church_n have_v authority_n in_o those_o matter_n if_o it_o be_v mere_a madness_n for_o the_o church_n not_o to_o observe_v the_o lord_n day_n how_o have_v the_o church_n authority_n in_o that_o case_n and_o if_o it_o may_v not_o once_o move_v question_n off_o it_o how_o can_v it_o take_v order_n in_o it_o your_o manner_n off_o speech_n whereby_o you_o will_v go_v between_o these_o two_o sentence_n and_o help_v to_o set_v at_o one_o such_o manifest_a contrariety_n be_v absurd_a for_o you_o say_v that_o the_o continuance_n off_o the_o lord_n day_n so_o long_o do_v prove_v it_o necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v and_o yet_o add_v that_o it_o may_v be_v alter_v upon_o great_a and_o especial_a consideration_n whereas_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v it_o may_v not_o be_v alter_v and_o if_o it_o may_v be_v alter_v then_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a whereby_o appear_v how_o true_o i_o gather_v off_o your_o word_n which_o you_o can_v not_o avoid_v without_o such_o senseless_a speech_n against_o that_o which_o i_o say_v off_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n institute_v in_o the_o 18_o off_o s._n matthew_n for_o contemner_n and_o neglecter_n off_o the_o word_n and_o common_a prayer_n it_o be_v say_v and_o say_a with_o great_a word_n that_o that_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v off_o secret_a and_o particular_a fault_n and_o not_o off_o open_a and_o know_v whereas_o it_o be_v more_o than_o manifest_a that_o if_o the_o scripture_n give_v authority_n to_o reprehend_v private_a fault_n it_o do_v much_o more_o authorise_v to_o rebuke_v public_a fault_n and_o if_o those_o fault_n which_o be_v do_v against_o one_o man_n much_o more_o those_o which_o be_v do_v against_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o if_o those_o which_o be_v do_v against_o the_o profit_n off_o man_n much_o more_o against_o those_o which_o be_v do_v against_o the_o glory_n off_o god_n and_o if_o upon_o refusal_n off_o admonition_n in_o those_o particular_a and_o secret_a case_n he_o will_v have_v the_o church_n proceed_v to_o excommunication_n how_o much_o more_o will_v he_o that_z that_o proceed_v be_v observe_v in_o these_o open_a fault_n and_o it_o be_v to_o childish_a thus_o continual_o to_o stumble_v at_o this_o that_o the_o word_n off_o the_o scripture_n shall_v have_v no_o far_o reach_v then_z to_o that_o special_a case_n whereof_o express_a mention_n be_v make_v in_o the_o text_n and_o to_o leave_v no_o place_n to_o argument_n off_o like_o of_o more_o to_o the_o les_fw-fr off_o les_fw-fr to_o the_o more_o of_o contrary_n &c._a &c._a and_o therbie_a to_o cut_v off_o all_o meditation_n off_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o destroy_v a_o great_a part_n off_o the_o use_n off_o teach_a in_o the_o church_n albeit_o in_o follow_v his_o own_o interpretation_n the_o contemner_n or_o neglecter_n off_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n may_v well_o be_v subject_n to_o this_o rule_n for_o it_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o one_o may_v contemn_v the_o word_n etc_n etc_n and_o yet_o in_o that_o manner_n as_o it_o shall_v be_v know_v wne_z only_a unto_o one_o what_o opinion_n he_o norishethe_v of_o they_o yet_o because_o that_o be_v not_o always_o let_v we_o see_v further_o what_o unskilfulness_n it_o be_v which_o the_o a._n do_v so_o great_o accuse_v in_o this_o allegation_n saint_n paul_n ground_v himself_o upon_o this_o place_n off_o our_o 5._o saviour_n doubt_a not_o to_o draw_v forth_o the_o authority_n he_o have_v to_o excommunicate_v against_o the_o incestuous_a man_n which_o be_v notorious_o know_v to_o have_v offend_v the_o whole_a congregation_n and_o hymineus_n which_o have_v corrupt_v the_o purity_n off_o the_o doctrine_n 20._o and_o if_o the_o a._n say_v true_o that_o that_o doctrine_n off_o our_o saviour_n christ_n touch_v excommunication_n may_v be_v carry_v no_o far_o then_o to_o that_o case_n off_o private_a and_o secret_a injury_n then_o saint_n paul_n draw_v the_o sword_n and_o teach_v to_o draw_v it_o where_o it_o ought_v not_o and_o althowghe_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v off_o the_o admonition_n yet_o they_o must_v be_v off_o necessity_n presuppose_a forasmiche_fw-it as_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o have_v proceed_v to_o that_o extremity_n off_o cut_v off_o by_o excommunication_n if_o the_o offender_n have_v leave_v any_o place_n to_o admonition_n and_o will_v have_v suffer_v themselves_o to_o have_v be_v cure_v by_o gentle_a medicine_n what_o also_o that_o saint_n paul_n upon_o the_o public_a admonition_n which_o he_o 13._o give_v unto_o certain_a offender_n menace_v they_o that_o if_o they_o admit_v not_o his_o admonition_n and_o reprehension_n he_o will_v not_o spare_v they_o do_v he_o not_o in_o those_o word_n give_v they_o the_o threat_v off_o excommunication_n and_o if_o he_o do_v â–ª_o then_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o those_o admonition_n be_v public_a be_v off_o public_a and_o know_a fault_n whereby_o follow_v that_o this_o rule_n off_o admonish_v and_o reprehend_v be_v forerunner_n unto_o excommunication_n even_o in_o public_a fault_n and_o as_o he_o here_o fight_v against_o a_o manifest_a truth_n so_o he_o have_v himself_o for_o adversary_n which_o affirm_v 667._o that_o against_o a_o heretic_n both_o these_o two_o admonitition_n which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n speak_v of_o and_o the_o excommunication_n afterward_o ought_v to_o be_v practise_v unless_o he_o will_v say_v that_o a_o heretic_n which_o be_v know_v to_o one_o only_o ought_v so_o to_o be_v handle_v and_o that_o he_o which_o be_v notorious_o know_a ought_v to_o be_v free_a from_o that_o censure_n the_o place_n of_o m_o caluin_n be_v altogete_a from_o the_o purpose_n for_o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o private_a admonition_n ought_v to_o be_v apply_v unto_o public_a offence_n the_o apostell_n of_o they_o give_v order_n that_o such_o offender_n shall_v be_v rebuke_v open_o 5._o only_o i_o say_v that_o for_o contempt_n and_o neglect_v off_o the_o word_n i_o may_v have_v say_v for_o every_o fault_n that_o tend_v either_o to_o the_o hurt_n of_o the_o neighbour_n or_o to_o the_o hindrance_n off_o the_o glory_n off_o god_n there_o be_v prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n off_o god_n admonition_n and_o reprehension_n and_o if_o those_o will_v not_o serve_v excommunication_n but_o whether_o the_o admonition_n and_o reprehension_n shall_v be_v private_a or_o public_a that_o thing_n hang_v upon_o the_o quality_n and_o kind_n of_o the_o fault_n i_o affirm_v nothing_o now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o revel_v he_o make_v with_o the_o civil_a discipline_n appoint_a by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n where_o before_o he_o can_v book_n give_v one_o answer_n he_o must_v ask_v three_o question_n the_o first_o be_v answer_v before_o in_o the_o begin_v the_o last_o be_v handle_v afterward_o in_o the_o 6._o ch._n and_o 5._o division_n and_o as_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o second_o question_n which_o with_o other_o his_o sainge_n follow_v surmise_n that_o i_o will_v have_v the_o negltcte_n of_o the_o word_n punish_v by_o death_n it_o be_v direct_o against_o my_o express_a word_n which_o have_v show_v the_o punishment_n that_o shall_v be_v execute_v upon_o contemner_n add_v that_o there_o be_v other_o punishment_n for_o those_o which_o neglect_v the_o word_n etc_n etc_n and_o as_o to_o that_o part_n off_o his_o question_n which_o be_v whether_o contemner_n off_o the_o word_n ought_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n it_o be_v as_o his_o other_o question_n be_v of_o thing_n not_o only_o affirm_v and_o set_v down_o but_o dispute_v off_o both_o part_n for_o this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o plain_o affirm_v and_o bring_v argument_n to_o prove_v and_o when_o he_o that_o despise_v the_o word_n of_o god_n despise_v god_n himself_o the_o equity_n of_o this_o must_v needs_o appear_v unto_o all_o those_o in_o who_o there_o be_v but_o a_o corn_n off_o the_o zeal_n and_o loove_n of_o the_o glory_n off_o god_n or_o rather_o in_o who_o there_o be_v not_o some_o pleasure_n to_o see_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n tread_v under_o foot_n but_o he_o say_v that_o the_o place_n off_o moses_n off_o put_v idolater_n unto_o death_n make_v nothing_o to_o prove_v this_o the_o reason_n exo._n whereof_o he_o assignethe_v to_o be_v
because_o contemner_n be_v not_o idolater_n this_o be_v his_o ordinary_a fault_n that_o he_o can_v not_o understand_v that_o iff_n a_o idolater_n ought_v to_o die_v much_o more_o a_o contemner_n of_o the_o word_n for_o contempt_n althowghe_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o action_n which_o do_v utter_o overturn_v the_o service_n of_o god_n as_o idolatry_n but_o in_o one_o which_o stain_v or_o crack_v it_o only_o as_o be_v the_o breach_n off_o the_o sabbath_n be_v yet_o show_v to_o be_v so_o displeasante_n unto_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o detestable_a that_o that_o which_o off_o it_o self_n be_v not_o deadly_a only_o by_o this_o circumstance_n of_o contempt_n be_v punish_v with_o present_a death_n which_o may_v appear_v in_o he_o that_o gather_v stick_n on_o the_o sabbath_n day_n the_o breach_n off_o the_o sabbath_n day_n be_v not_o simple_o punishable_a by_o 32._o death_n as_o idolatry_n be_v much_o les_fw-fr so_o small_a a_o breach_n by_o the_o gather_n off_o a_o few_o stick_n yet_o because_o it_o be_v do_v as_o the_o scripture_n say_v in_o a_o high_a hand_n that_o be_v to_o say_v proud_o and_o contemptuous_o the_o lord_n command_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n and_o set_v that_o down_o for_o a_o generalle_fw-mi law_n how_o much_o more_o than_o shall_v he_o which_o despisethe_v the_o word_n off_o god_n which_o be_v the_o rule_n off_o the_o whole_a body_n off_o the_o service_n off_o god_n and_o off_o that_o true_a rest_n from_o our_o own_o work_n and_o from_o sin_n whereof_o that_o bodily_a rest_n be_v a_o figure_n be_v punish_v with_o death_n and_o if_o because_o the_o law_n do_v not_o say_v in_o thus_o many_o word_n that_o a_o contemner_n shall_v die_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o conclude_v that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n what_o will_v the_o answerer_n say_v unto_o the_o writer_n unto_o the_o hebrew_n which_o 28._o say_v that_o he_o that_o despisethe_v the_o law_n off_o moses_n under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n be_v put_v to_o death_n without_o mercy_n for_o by_o those_o word_n it_o appear_v not_o only_o that_o a_o contemner_n of_o the_o law_n off_o moses_n ought_v by_o the_o law_n to_o die_v which_o be_v that_o which_o i_o set_v down_o but_o also_o that_o the_o writer_n upon_o th●●_n and_o such_o like_a place_n as_o i_o have_v here_o allege_v gather_v that_o which_o be_v no_o where_o in_o the_o law_n find_v in_o the_o same_o word_n wherein_o he_o utter_v that_o sentence_n touch_v the_o place_n off_o deutronomy_n which_o he_o say_v be_v only_o understand_v off_o false_a witness_n it_o be_v apparent_a that_o althowghe_o it_o follow_v deut._n immediate_o the_o law_n off_o put_v a_o false_a witness_n to_o death_n yet_o it_o be_v a_o general_a sentence_n and_o have_v regard_n unto_o all_o the_o crime_n which_o be_v capital_a for_o if_o false_a witness_n be_v put_v to_o death_n and_o idolater_n or_o contemner_n remain_v how_o be_v the_o land_n purge_v off_o the_o evil_n which_o draw_v the_o wrath_n off_o god_n upon_o it_o or_o how_o be_v a_o terror_n strike_v into_o the_o rest_n whereby_o they_o may_v be_v keep_v from_o the_o infection_n off_o that_o sin_n and_o if_o no_o punishment_n but_o death_n be_v able_a to_o give_v a_o sound_n full_a enough_o to_o strike_v a_o sufficient_a terror_n of_o the_o sin_n off_o false_a witness_n in_o such_o a_o case_n how_o much_o more_o be_v it_o needful_a that_o there_o be_v as_o brim_a and_o as_o audible_a a_o punishment_n against_o idolater_n and_o contemner_n of_o the_o word_n to_o the_o engender_v of_o that_o fear_n in_o other_o whereby_o the_o rest_n may_v be_v keep_v in_o the_o fear_n and_o true_a worship_n off_o the_o lord_n the_o place_n off_o the_o chronicle_n be_v not_o answer_v for_o it_o be_v more_o general_a then_o the_o a._n take_v it_o and_o be_v a_o exposition_n off_o 15._o the_o law_n for_o where_o the_o law_n say_v that_o he_o that_o serve_v strange_a god_n shall_v die_v this_o place_n say_v that_o he_o shall_v die_v which_o seek_v not_o the_o lord_n where_o in_o be_v comprehend_v not_o only_o idolater_n but_o atheist_n and_o mocker_n and_o contemner_n off_o god_n which_o be_v that_o which_o i_o have_v to_o prove_v as_o for_o that_o he_o ask_v off_o the_o perpetuity_n off_o these_o law_n it_o be_v afterward_o speak_v off_o in_o the_o end_n he_o find_v fault_n that_o i_o say_v there_o be_v other_o punishment_n for_o such_o as_o neglect_v the_o word_n of_o god_n according_a to_o the_o fault_n do_v nether_a tell_v what_o they_o be_v nor_o where_o they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v i_o think_v that_o the_o mouth_n of_o his_o understanding_n have_v not_o be_v so_o narrow_a but_o it_o can_v easy_o comprehend_v that_o if_o contempt_n be_v by_o the_o word_n off_o god_n to_o be_v punish_v by_o death_n that_o the_o neglect_v off_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o escape_v the_o civil_a punishment_n either_o in_o body_n or_o god_n etc_n etc_n why_o i_o do_v not_o reckon_v they_o up_o i_o assign_v sufficient_a cause_n in_o that_o the_o vary_a according_a to_o the_o quantity_n off_o the_o fault_n more_o or_o less_o can_v not_o be_v set_v down_o and_o if_o he_o will_v see_v in_o general_a what_o punishment_n the_o law_n of_o god_n allow_v of_o in_o such_o case_n he_o may_v read_v in_o esra_n where_o beside_o the_o punishment_n off_o death_n against_o the_o transgressor_n off_o the_o law_n there_o 26_o be_v also_o appoint_v banishment_n loss_n of_o good_a or_o imprisonment_n as_o the_o quality_n off_o the_o fault_n require_v and_o if_o he_o say_v that_z that_o be_v do_v by_o the_o authority_n not_o off_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o of_o a_o heathen_a prince_n the_o answer_n be_v easy_a that_o it_o be_v very_o like_a that_z the_o commission_n give_v to_o esra_fw-mi and_o authorise_a by_o the_o king_n be_v draw_v by_o esra_n which_o be_v a_o cunning_a scribe_n in_o the_o law_n of_o god_n at_o the_o left_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o both_o accept_v that_o and_o amongst_o other_o thing_n give_v god_n 28_o thank_n for_o it_o which_o he_o will_v never_o have_v do_v unless_o ●t_z have_v be_v a_o good_a interpetation_n off_o the_o law_n in_o that_o behalf_n consider_v that_o even_o the_o civil_a and_o politic_a law_n whereby_o the_o jew_n be_v they_o and_o in_o jury_n especial_o govern_v ▪_o aught_o to_o be_v no_o other_o then_z those_o which_o the_o lord_n have_v prescribe_v in_o the_o law_n and_o thus_o let_v it_o be_v judge_v what_o good_a cause_n i_o have_v to_o ask_v what_o be_v become_v off_o the_o a._n judgement_n when_o he_o set_v down_o that_o there_o be_v no_o discipline_n appoint_v ●n_o the_o word_n off_o god_n for_o those_o which_o shall_v contemn_v the_o word_n off_o god_n and_o common_a prayer_n division_n 7._o pag._n 91._o the_o answerer_n say_a that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n in_o the_o scripture_n off_o pulpite_v or_o off_o sit_v at_o the_o communion_n in_o a_o word_n i_o show_v that_o there_o be_v and_o where_o he_o say_v the_o pulpit_n be_v place_v in_o open_a street_n that_o be_v because_o off_o their_o dwell_n in_o tent_n 6_o the_o feast_n whereof_o they_o celebrate_v for_o otherwise_o it_o appear_v that_o such_o a_o high_a place_n in_o the_o temple_n out_o off_o the_o which_o the_o voice_n off_o he_o which_o speak_v might_n be_v hear_v be_v ordinary_a the_o reason_n off_o call_v the_o doctrine_n of_o moses_n the_o chair_n of_o moses_n by_o a_o metonumie_n off_o the_o subject_n for_o the_o adiuncte_v i_o will_v leave_v to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v of_o for_o my_o judgement_n off_o they_o i_o say_a that_o they_o be_v not_o light_o to_o be_v change_v and_o he_o dispurethe_o against_o i_o as_z if_o i_o have_v say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o change_v these_o upon_o any_o occasion_n and_o beside_o this_o dispute_v against_o his_o own_o fancy_n and_o not_o against_o my_o word_n he_o have_v violent_o break_v into_o the_o question_n off_o read_n and_o interpret_n the_o word_n off_o god_n without_n any_o the_o least_o occasion_n give_v thereof_o and_o have_v also_o shameful_o corrupt_a the_o place_n off_o nehemias_n as_o shall_v be_v see_v in_o the_o proper_a place_n 8._o division_n pag._n 92._o here_o he_o accusethe_v i_o of_o falsify_v his_o word_n which_o have_v charge_v he_o with_o say_n that_o it_o be_v a_o indifferent_a thing_n to_o preach_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o church_n or_o house_n private_o or_o public_o wherein_o he_o still_o utter_v his_o forehead_n hard_a than_o any_o steel_n for_o these_o be_v his_o own_o word_n that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n of_o preach_v or_o baptise_v open_o or_o private_o at_o home_o or_o in_o the_o church_n do_v he_o not_o say_v
that_o it_o be_v not_o our_o question_n which_o the_o a._n do_v so_o shameful_o affirm_v whether_o the_o scripture_n have_v express_v all_o external_a ceremony_n etc_n etc_n in_o the_o next_o page_n unto_o i_o show_v that_o the_o place_n off_o august_n to_o casulanus_fw-la be_v against_o he_o for_o that_o where_o he_o will_v prove_v that_o certain_a thing_n be_v in_o the_o church_n power_n the_o word_n which_o he_o allege_v say_v that_z the_o decree_n of_o the_o forefather_n and_o coustome_n off_o the_o people_n off_o god_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v tie_n the_o church_n to_o the_o decree_n and_o coustome_n off_o those_o which_o go_v before_o he_o answer_v that_o august_n give_v a_o rule_n unto_o private_a man_n and_o not_o unto_o the_o church_n wherein_o he_o condemn_v himself_o off_o have_v allege_v that_o sentence_n clean_o beside_o the_o cause_n for_o it_o be_v manifest_v by_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o that_o he_o allege_v it_o to_o prove_v the_o authority_n off_o the_o church_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a neither_o can_v it_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n have_v any_o bond_n with_o that_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v and_o now_o that_o it_o be_v show_v how_o unfit_o the_o place_n be_v allege_v he_o shift_v his_o foot_n and_o in_o stead_n off_o a_o rule_n touch_v the_o church_n he_o make_v it_o a_o rule_n for_o private_a man_n and_o in_o stead_n off_o show_v the_o liberty_n off_o the_o church_n he_o show_v the_o bondage_n that_o a_o private_a man_n be_v tie_v by_o where_o i_o conclude_v against_o he_o off_o that_o sentence_n off_o augustine_n that_o we_o ought_v to_o follow_v the_o coustome_n and_o order_n off_o the_o apostle_n and_o off_o the_o primative_a church_n see_v it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v our_o forefather_n and_o the_o people_n off_o god_n and_o that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o follow_v the_o papist_n which_o be_v neither_o the_o people_n off_o god_n nor_o our_o forefather_n to_o the_o first_o off_z follow_v the_o apostle_n he_o say_v there_o be_v certain_a thing_n convenient_a only_a for_o their_o time_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v follow_v wherein_o unless_o he_o mean_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v in_o controversy_n it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o if_o he_o mean_v they_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a beg_v off_o that_o which_o be_v in_o demand_n unto_o the_o second_o point_n off_o not_o take_v the_o papist_n coustome_n and_o decres_fw-la he_o refer_v i_o to_o other_o place_n where_o notwithstanding_o he_o never_o answer_v this_o argument_n off_o augustin_n and_o so_o in_o pretence_n off_o a_o fit_a place_n he_o have_v take_v a_o long_a day_n where_o he_o note_v i_o of_o ignorance_n in_o that_o i_o say_v i_o can_v oppose_v ignatius_n and_o tertull_n unto_o august_n and_o ambrose_n touch_a the_o fast_a upon_o the_o lord_n day_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o they_o the_o one_o part_n speak_v off_o the_o saturday_n the_o other_o off_o the_o sunday_n i_o be_o content_v to_o bear_v his_o charge_n off_o ignorance_n but_o be_v there_o any_o man_n so_o forsake_v off_o all_o not_o learning_n only_o but_o common_a reason_n which_o do_v not_o understand_v that_o these_o proposition_n differ_v and_o fight_v amongst_o themselves_o it_o be_v a_o detestable_a thing_n to_o fast_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n which_o be_v the_o judgement_n off_o ignatius_n and_o tertull_n and_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o fast_v on_o the_o lord_n day_n which_o be_v the_o judgement_n off_o augustine_n set_v down_o off_o himself_o and_o when_o ambrose_n speak_v not_o only_o off_o the_o sabbothe_v off_o the_o jew_n but_o general_o will_v that_o whatsoever_o the_o custom_n off_o the_o church_n be_v in_o that_o behalf_n off_o fast_v it_o shall_v be_v follow_v do_v he_o not_o manifest_o overthrow_v his_o say_n which_o say_v to_o fast_a on_o the_o lord_n day_n be_v to_o kill_v the_o lord_n and_o even_o in_o the_o case_n off_o the_o fast_o off_o the_o jew_n sabbothe_v which_o casulanus_fw-la demand_v counsel_n off_o it_o appear_v there_o be_v great_a disagrrement_n between_o the_o ancient_a father_n consider_v that_o in_o the_o canon_n which_o be_v attribute_v unto_o the_o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v ordain_v that_o if_o one_o be_v find_v to_o fast_a on_o the_o lord_n day_n or_o on_o the_o sabbothe_v one_o only_o exept_v be_v a_o clerk_n he_o shall_v be_v depose_v and_o be_v a_o layman_n separate_v from_o the_o supper_n off_o the_o lord_n if_o i_o have_v off_o ignorance_n set_v the_o father_n together_o by_o the_o ear_n as_o he_o say_v let_v we_o see_v how_o with_o his_o knowledge_n he_o can_v part_v they_o and_o set_v they_o at_o one_o in_o this_o behalf_n that_o the_o fast_n which_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o time_n off_o ambrose_n and_o augustine_n and_o long_o before_o and_o their_o allowance_n especial_o off_o the_o lentenne_n fast_n be_v corrupt_v and_o profanation_n off_o the_o true_a use_n off_o fast_o if_o need_n be_v as_z i_o have_v in_o part_n so_o it_o might_n in_o more_o word_n easy_o be_v show_v that_o the_o counsel_n giuè_fw-fr for_o the_o keep_n of_o those_o superstitious_a fast_n may_v have_v place_n in_o a_o strange_a and_o private_a man_n which_o ought_v not_o to_o stand_v towards_o a_o citizen_n and_o he_o that_o have_v charge_n it_o be_v apparent_a and_o yet_o both_o these_o the_o answerer_n will_v bear_v down_o with_o word_n and_o nothing_o but_o word_n where_o the_o answ_n say_v that_o he_o know_v nothing_o in_o the_o place_n off_o augustine_n or_o ambrose_n touch_a fast_v which_o may_v not_o be_v observe_v without_o just_a offence_n may_v be_v take_v either_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o place_n which_o i_o allege_v thouch_z merit_v off_o fast_v or_o the_o place_n which_o himself_o allege_v i_o will_v rather_o esteem_v until_o i_o know_v the_o contrary_a that_o he_o mean_v off_o those_o which_o he_o bring_v himself_o then_o together_o with_o the_o slip_n off_o stand_v day_n off_o fast_o he_o shall_v also_o fall_v flat_a by_o opinion_n off_o the_o merit_n in_o fast_v and_o so_o i_o will_v have_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v he_o that_z there_o be_v no_o offence_n take_v at_o this_o place_n so_o doubtful_o leave_v where_o he_o bring_v i_o in_o conclude_v that_o because_o the_o ancient_a father_n err_v in_o some_o thing_n therefore_o they_o say_v true_a in_o none_o my_o word_n carry_v no_o such_o sense_n but_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o err_v and_o even_o in_o this_o matter_n off_o fast_o which_o be_v in_o hand_n they_o ought_v to_o have_v no_o further_o credit_n then_z their_o authority_n be_v warant_v by_o the_o word_n off_o god_n and_o good_a reason_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o answ_n which_o press_v their_o bare_a authority_n without_o any_o ward_n off_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o assistance_n of_o good_a reason_n either_o bring_v of_o himself_o or_o fetch_v from_o they_o bring_v a_o intolerable_a tyranny_n into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n this_o i_o give_v to_o understand_v which_o because_o he_o dare_v not_o in_o plain_a word_n gain_v say_v he_o have_v turn_v my_o word_n unto_o another_o sense_n cap._n 3._o division_n 2_o pag._n 103._o augustine_n say_v that_o the_o feast_n of_o easter_n pentecost_n etc_n etc_n be_v the_o statute_n off_o the_o apostle_n and_o commend_v to_o the_o church_n and_o add_v that_o they_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n whereupon_o i_o conclude_v that_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n by_o this_o reckon_v command_v off_o god_n to_o be_v observe_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o consequent_o that_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a doctrine_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n whereby_o we_o may_v be_v save_v to_o this_o the_o doct._n answer_v that_o it_o be_v a_o pretty_a and_o sound_a collection_n i_o have_v in_o deed_n for_o shortness_n sake_n truss_v that_o into_o two_o or_o three_o proposition_n which_o to_o put_v in_o full_a and_o comptere_n argument_n require_v a_o great_a number_n howbeit_o the_o soundness_n off_o the_o collection_n be_v apparent_a to_o all_o which_o will_v open_v their_o eye_n and_o because_o the_o ans_fw-fr will_v yield_v no_o obedience_n unto_o the_o truth_n unless_o she_o take_v he_o by_o the_o collar_n have_v she_o handen_fw-ge upon_o his_o throat_n the_o foundenes_n off_o the_o collection_n shall_v thus_o appear_v unto_o he_o what_o soever_o be_v decree_v off_o the_o apostle_n and_o commend_v unto_o the_o church_n to_o be_v observe_v be_v necessary_a but_o some_o thing_n by_o aug._n and_o the_o d._n not_o contain_v in_o the_o word_n off_o god_n be_v decree_v and_o commend_v by_o the_o apostle_n unto_o the_o posterity_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o some_o thing_n by_o aug._n and_o the_o d._n not_o contain_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v necessary_a to_o be_v
the_o golden_a calf_n for_o a_o token_n and_o sign_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n 32._o call_v it_o by_o the_o name_n off_o god_n now_o have_v no_o reason_n but_o off_o the_o papist_n only_o to_o warante_fw-fr this_o opinion_n off_o his_o accustom_a liberality_n in_o give_v that_o which_o he_o can_v not_o hold_v he_o admit_v for_o soothe_v that_o it_o be_v metonimical_o speak_v yet_o after_o that_o by_o force_n off_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v writhen_a from_o he_o he_o reach_v out_o his_o hand_n after_o it_o say_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o conjecture_n it_o be_v a_o certain_a truth_n m._n w._n and_o no_o conjecture_n stand_a not_o upon_o the_o judgement_n off_o man_n which_o i_o can_v allege_v of_o diverse_a learned_a that_o have_v write_v of_o that_o place_n but_o upon_o unfailible_n reason_n whereof_o that_o be_v one_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v off_o the_o usual_a phrase_n off_o the_o scripture_n in_o speak_v of_o sign_n and_o if_o it_o have_v be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o have_v liken_v the_o majesty_n off_o god_n unto_o a_o calf_n or_o to_o have_v have_v such_o a_o token_n off_o the_o presence_n off_o god_n it_o have_v not_o be_v unlawful_a to_o have_v call_v it_o sacramental_o by_o the_o name_n off_o god._n moreover_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o knowledge_n off_o god_n be_v a_o habit_n which_o god_n give_v by_o little_a and_o little_a through_o teach_a it_o be_v impossible_a that_o the_o israelite_n so_o well_o instruct_v and_o have_v give_v also_o good_a experience_n before_o that_z they_o know_v the_o true_a god_n shall_v so_o sudden_o at_o one_o instant_n so_o many_o lose_v all_o that_o knowledge_n off_o god_n and_o take_v a_o calf_n to_o be_v that_o which_o browghte_v they_o out_o off_o the_o land_n of_o egypt_n but_o as_o it_o come_v by_o little_a and_o little_a so_o it_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v a_o time_n whereby_o it_o may_v by_o little_a and_o little_a be_v lose_v and_o hitherto_o be_v refer_v that_o which_o master_n calvin_n allege_v off_o the_o consent_n off_o the_o people_n to_o that_o which_o aaron_n say_v off_o keep_v holy_a day_n unto_o the_o lord_n whereby_o they_o declare_v that_o they_o hold_v that_o for_o good_a which_o aaron_n say_v further_o if_o the_o israelite_n have_v take_v the_o calf_n for_o their_o god_n moses_n in_o give_v they_o it_o to_o drink_v after_o he_o have_v beat_v it_o to_o powder_v shall_v have_v drive_v they_o to_o a_o great_a sin_n and_o have_v kill_v their_o conscience_n in_o compel_v they_o to_o drink_v that_o which_o they_o be_v persuade_v to_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o the_o true_a god_n which_o browghte_v they_o out_o of_o egypt_n which_o thing_n when_o no_o man_n of_o any_o knowledge_n can_v say_v it_o be_v certain_a that_o moses_n do_v think_v that_o the_o israelite_n do_v know_v that_o the_o calf_n be_v not_o the_o true_a god_n beside_o that_o albeit_o aaron_n fault_v grievous_o yet_o it_o be_v great_a injury_n do_v unto_o he_o to_o think_v that_o ever_o he_o will_v have_v either_o cause_v or_o consent_v a_o calf_n to_o be_v make_v if_o he_o thowghte_v that_o the_o israelite_n will_v have_v take_v that_o for_o the_o true_a god_n yea_o after_o they_o have_v utter_v that_o voice_n these_o be_v they_o god_n etc_o etc_o it_o be_v say_v that_o aaron_n see_v that_o make_v a_o altar_n before_o the_o calf_n which_o he_o will_v never_o have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v understand_v the_o israelite_n as_o the_o d._n do_v i_o have_v not_o the_o text_n before_o i_o when_o i_o write_v but_o i_o take_v the_o sense_n which_o i_o be_v well_o assure_v off_o see_v they_o both_o consent_v to_o aaron_n say_v you_o shall_v keep_v holy_a day_n to_o the_o lord_n 6._o and_o do_v so_o therefore_o allthowghe_o it_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o reprehension_n off_o a_o caviller_n yet_o i_o alter_v nothing_o off_o the_o meaning_n off_o the_o place_n in_o that_o i_o set_v down_o that_o the_o israelite_n say_v they_o will_v keep_v holy_a day_n to_o the_o lord_n i_o put_v you_o over_o to_o the_o learned_a writer_n and_o now_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o off_o two_o which_o do_v in_o plain_a word_n whet_v their_o style_n direct_o against_o your_o distinction_n you_o mislike_v off_o the_o distinction_n but_o you_o be_v drive_v to_o use_v it_o you_o excuse_v not_o the_o papist_n but_o you_o lessen_v their_o crime_n and_o therefore_o you_o may_v well_o be_v call_v their_o patron_n for_o it_o be_v a_o precept_n amongst_o the_o rethorician_n that_o iff_n the_o client_n fault_n be_v apparante_fw-fr the_o advocate_n shall_v confess_v it_o and_o then_o employ_v the_o strength_n off_o his_o wit_n to_o cause_v it_o seem_v as_o little_a as_o may_v be_v and_o where_o in_o the_o distinction_n of_o degree_n off_o idolatry_n you_o say_v that_o the_o jew_n do_v oftentimes_o offend_v in_o the_o last_o and_o the_o worst_a and_o the_o papist_n not_o you_o in_o deed_n say_v it_o and_o say_v it_o again_o but_o you_o bring_v nothing_o to_o prove_v it_o once_o i_o can_v reply_v that_o the_o papist_n use_v more_o detestable_a idolatry_n then_o ever_o do_v the_o jew_n for_o show_v i_o by_o any_o good_a authority_n or_o reason_n that_o the_o jew_n do_v ever_o think_v or_o teach_v that_o a_o dead_a image_n off_o will_v and_o stone_n shall_v be_v worship_v with_o the_o honour_n off_o the_o holy_a trinity_n and_o this_o notwithstanding_o nic._n be_v teach_v off_o the_o papist_n or_o show_v i_o where_o ever_o the_o jew_n do_v worship_n so_o vile_a a_o thing_n as_o a_o piece_n off_o bread_n which_o receive_v into_o the_o stomach_n be_v after_o cast_v into_o the_o privy_a and_o as_o it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o they_o take_v that_o bread_n for_o the_o very_a god_n which_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n so_o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o it_o can_v never_o be_v show_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v ever_o so_o gross_a to_o believe_v that_o any_o simple_a creature_n see_v with_o their_o eye_n be_v the_o live_a god._n the_o ans_fw-fr bindethe_v well_o in_o the_o endè_fw-la with_z his_o therefore_o if_o they_o repent_v etc_n etc_n wherefore_o because_o their_o idolatry_n be_v not_o so_o great_a as_o that_o off_o the_o jew_n as_o if_o their_o mercy_n which_o they_o receive_v upon_o repentance_n depend_v upon_o the_o smallness_n or_o greatness_n off_o their_o idolatry_n or_o as_o if_o the_o jew_n which_o repent_v off_o their_o idolatry_n receive_v not_o mercy_n likewise_o very_o i_o can_v see_v no_o band_n to_o tiethis_fw-la therefore_o with_o that_o which_o go_v before_o it_o be_v a_o weffe_n not_o worth_a the_o take_n up_o for_o what_o need_v this_o now_o thrice_o at_o the_o least_o that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v out_o off_o the_o church_n as_o iff_n any_o deny_v that_o but_o where_o you_o add_v nor_o out_o off_o the_o ministry_n if_o you_o mean_v off_o such_o as_o have_v fall_v from_o the_o gospel_n and_o ministry_n especial_o to_o idolatry_n i_o can_v not_o bear_v you_o it_o be_v to_o heavy_a a_o conclusion_n for_o so_o weak_a premise_n for_o master_n d._n be_v to_o much_o abuse_a if_o he_o think_v that_o the_o same_o kay_n open_v the_o door_n off_o the_o ministry_n and_o the_o church_n door_n where_o he_o snatch_v at_o the_o example_n of_o aaron_n who_z after_o that_o he_o fall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o preisthood_n again_o which_o he_o do_v before_o in_o the_o example_n off_o s._n paul_n that_o i_o browghte_v forth_o he_o declare_v what_o a_o hungry_a cause_n he_o have_v which_o be_v glad_a to_o pull_v the_o meat_n out_o off_o the_o fire_n that_z it_o fedethe_v on_o but_o alas_o this_o help_v not_o for_o it_o be_v a_o singular_a example_n and_o may_v not_o be_v draw_v into_o imitation_n at_o which_o answer_n my_o think_v i_o see_v the_o d._n buskell_v and_o prepare_v himself_o to_o crow_v say_n that_o so_o all_o may_v be_v wipe_v whatsoever_o be_v bring_v i_o will_v not_o do_v therefore_o as_o you_o to_o who_o it_o be_v enough_o to_o say_v withowte_n proof_n but_o will_v show_v the_o reason_n which_o unless_o you_o rest_n in_o you_o shall_v have_v the_o controversy_n with_v your_o self_n your_o self_n affirm_v that_o the_o law_n in_o ezech._n and_o in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o king_n touch_v the_o not_o admit_n of_o the_o levite_n to_o the_o ministry_n be_v a_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n and_o give_v to_o the_o israelite_n only_o which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v general_a must_v needs_o comprehend_v the_o fault_n off_o aaron_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o admittance_n off_o aaron_n to_o his_o ministry_n again_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n be_v by_o a_o especial_a dispensation_n moreover_o aaron_n be_v appoint_v to_o the_o ministry_n immediate_o