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Papists no Catholicks, and popery no Christianity
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Lloyd, William, 1627-1717.
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PAPISTS NO CATHOLICKS AND POPERY NO Christianity H B LONDON Printed for the AUTHOR 1677. Imprimatur G. JANE R.P.D. Hen. Episc. Lond. à sac dom Jan. 10. 1676 7. TO THE Christian Reader THe Council of Trent confirmed by the Pope is the Chief Oracle of the Church of Rome From it she receives all Doctrines necessary to be believed unto Salvation Romish Catholiques hold it for a principle That whatsoever is delivered therein for Doctrine is an Article of Faith and must stedfastly be believed upon pain of Damnation He that doth not is pronounced an Heretick and is made liable to their supposed Curse What little reason there is that Papists should yield such blind obedience to that Council may appear by this plain and true Testimony which was given thereunto by a Bishop an eminent member of that Church and Council who was present thereat which is as followeth ANDREAS DVDITHIVS Bishop of Quinquecclesisiae and Embassador in the Council of Trent for Maximilian II. Emperor In an Epistle to the said Emperor wherein he delivers his Judgment about granting the Cup to the Laity and the Marriage of Priests writes thus of the Council of Trent WHat good could be done in that Council where voices were taken by number not by weight If argument if reason might have prevailed if we had had some and those not many to take part with us though we should have been but a few yet had we overthrown the great forces of our Adversaries But when all stood upon number wherein we were much inferior we could not get the better the Pope was able to set an hundred of his against every one of ours And if an hundred were not sufficient he could upon a sudden have created a thousand to succour them that were ready to faint and perish Therefore we might see every day hungry and needy Bishops and those for the most part beardless yonkers and wastfully riotous come in flocks to Trent hired to give their voices according to the Popes humour unlearned indeed and foolish but of good use to him for their audaciousness and impudency When these fellows were joined to the Popes old flatterers then Iniquity got the upper hand and triumphed neither could any thing be decreed but according to their liking who thought it the highest point of Religion to defend the power and riot of the Pope There was in the Council a grave and learned man who could not endure this indignity but the Council by terror threatning and baiting him as one that was 〈◊〉 good Catholick drew him to yield to that which he did no way like of In a word things are brought to that pass by their dishonesty who came thither prepared and made for the nonce that it seemed to be a Council not of Bishops but of Puppies not of Men but of Images who as it is reported of Daedalus statues were moved not by their own but by other mens nerves and muscles Those hireling Bishops most of them were like Country Bag-pipes which must have breath blown into them before they can sound The Holy Ghost had nothing to do with that Conventicle all things were argued by humane policy which was wholly employed in maintaining the immoderate and indeed most shameless Lordship and Domination of the Popes From thence were Answers looked and waited for as it were from the Oracles of Delphos or Dodona From thence the Holy Ghost who as they brag is President of their Council was sent shut up in the Carriers budgets and packs who a thing worthy to be laught at when the waters were up as it falls out many times was fain to stay till they were down again before he could repair to the Council By this it came to pass that the Spirit was not carried upon the waters as in Genesis but along beside the waters O monstrous and incredible madness nothing that the Bishops as it were the body of the Church resolved of could be of any force unless it came first from the Pope as the head of the body The Popish Faith is Pius Quartus his Creed at Trent so that we may justly demand of Papists where was their Religion before Trent which was since Luther HATH not the Church of Rome the Lords Prayer Yes except the Doxology Wherein doth she differ from the Reformed Church in that great Duty of Prayer The Reformed Church placeth the virtue of Prayer in Faith grounded upon the Promise of God But the Romish Religion confines the virtue of Prayer to several repetitions of the same words by count and in a Language the people understand not And that if one Pater Noster or Ave Maria be neglected once and the prescribed number be not fully compleated then all the merit of that Prayer is lost Which is as scandalously opposite as if it were done in a meer despight against the express order of the great Apostle St. Paul in his Epistle to the Corinthians especially from the 13. to the 17. verse Whereas their own Aquinas and Lyra both confess that the common Service of the Church in the Primitive times was in the common Language and the Christians of Dalmatia Habassia Armenia Muscovia Russia and the Reformed parts of Christendom have the service of God in their vulgar tongue Hath not the Church of Rome the Creed Yes But their Popes have besides at Trent coined a great number of new Articles of Faith the Author to the Preface to Bishop Jewels works and Doctor Sharp's Looking-glass for the Pope page 271. reduces them to 12. and published by Pius Quartus with straight charge to be received of all men upon peril of Salvation Nor doth the Pope only dare to make and impose new Articles of Faith upon the People but most impiously to detract from and alter the very X Commandments of the Lord Jehovah Witness their Decalogue so often published by the Church of Rome which is as follows 1. I am the Lord thy God thou shalt have no other Gods but me 2. Thou shalt not take the name of God in vain 3. Remember to sanctifie the Sabbath day 4. Honour thy Father and Mother 5. Thou shalt not kill 6. Thou shalt not commit adultery 7. Thou shalt not steal 8. Thou shalt not bear false witness 9. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours wife 10. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours goods Wherein the second Commandement is not only left out as it is usually in their Psalm-books and Catechisms because it perfectly condemns their Idolatry But they divide the tenth Commandement into two whereas the holy Ghost foreseeing the Abominations of Antichrist in the last days was pleased by way of anticipation to place Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours house before that of Thy neighbours wife in Exodus and in the fifth of Deuteronomy in the tenth Commandement thereto place thy neighbours wife first before thy neighbours house so that the Bibles printed among themselves will
publick Rules which cannot consist with the Doctrine of Salvation Obj. But do not Protestants hold a Papist may be saved Ans. We say as a man that hath the Plague may live but not by the Plague so Popery being the bane of Christianity and enmity to mans salvation those that are saved among them must be saved from Popery not by it As famous Bishop Jewel Def. Apol. Par. c. 22. Div. 1. saith If we should content our selves to turn to the Pope and to his errors we should kindle Gods wrath against us and clog and condemn our souls for ever And in another place he saith so the case stood that unless we left the Pope we could not come to Christ. And Doctor Broughton God can save a man at the last but as Gods word is infallible so said he if a man lives and dyes in the faith of all the Articles of the Council of Trent he cannot be saved Doctor Reynolds another shining light of the University of Oxford in his Verses upon the third Conclusion handled in the Schools November 3. 1579. saith If that ye seek eternal life see that you Rome forsake Doctor Whitaker a man for his learning and judgment approved of the Churches of Christ abroad and of this of England We say saith he that the Church of Rome must be forsaken of all men that desire to be saved And a little after he adds That there can be no salvation hoped for in the Church of Rome D. Whitaker de Eccles. cont qu. 6. cap. 1. Mr. Perkins in his Reformed Cathol in the Prolog Sect. saith That all those that will be saved must depart and separate from the Faith and Religion of the present Church of Rome He also writ a Treatise to prove a Papist cannot go beyond a Reprobate the same do all Protestants affirm of all those in whom Popery is predominant practically and overcometh Christianity Here is the Judgment of those Learned Divines and therein the consent of both the Universities Oxford and Cambridge For their Books especially the three last were allowed for Printing by the Principal Doctors of the several Universities then Resident in them Nor is it to be taken for the Judgment of the Universities only but also of the whole Church as it appears evidently by the continuance of it from time to time in the writings of those famous learned men successively one after another It was divers years proclaimed openly in the Publick Schools by Dr. Reynolds ratified afterwards by Dr. Whitaker in his Publick Lectures of Divinity and confirmed by Mr. Perkins and by every one of these published in print with the approbation of our Church and State And this hath been the judgment and practice of the Churches of God in all Protestant Countries for the space of more then an hundred years to declare and testifie our separation from the Church of Rome in respect of Faith and Religion to be a matter of absolute necessity especially if we consider that every Parish throughout the whole Land is enjoined to have the Book of Bishop Jewel with the rest of his works in their several Churches for all men to read and that they were all new printed to that end Obj. Though that might be the Judgment of the Church of England in this case yet what is the sentiment of the Church of Ireland of the Religion of the Church of Rome Ans. Doctor Downham Bishop of London-derry in his Sermon Preached before the Lord Deputy of Ireland and the whole State April 22. Anno 1627. having taken for his Text Luke 1. 74. In the midst of his Sermon openly read the Protestation subscribed by the Archbishop and all the Bishops of that Kingdom That 1. The Religion of the Papists i. e. of Rome is Superstitious and Idolatrous 2. Their Faith and Doctrine Erroneous and Heretical 3. Their Church in respect of both Apostatical To sell them therefore a Toleration is to set Religion to sale and with that their Souls which Christ redeemed with his precious blood To give them Toleration is to make our selves accessary to their Abominations and to the damnation of their Souls Obj. Hath not the Church of Rome the testimony of the Fathers on her behalf Ans. I shall answer this concerning Rome as contradistinct from the Reformed Churches of Christ with the saying of a worthy Divine That Roma nihil aliud quam vitia Patrum retinet Rome retains nothing but the errors of the Fathers Obj. But hath not the Church of Rome had a long continued peace and prosperity whereas the Reformed Churches have been still most of them in troubles and afflictions Ans. 'T is true the Church of Christ is sometimes fluctuant as the Ark of Noah sometimes moveable as the Ark in the Wilderness and sometimes at rest as the Ark in the Temple In persecution removes in peace having this Motto Premimur non opprimimum But the Popish Church though she saith in her heart I sit a Queen and am no Widow and shall see no sorrow therefore shall her plagues come in one day death mourning and famine and she shall be utterly burnt with fire for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her As she hath fallen culpably so shall she fall penally like that of Jericho which can never be re-edified as Sybilla long since foretold Tota eris in cineres quasi nunquam Roma fuisses When the Wars began in Germany Anno 1619. A massy stone fell down upon a great brass Image of St. Peter that had Tu es Petrus c. fairly embossed upon it standing in St. Peters Church in Rome and so shattered it to pieces that not a letter of that sentence whereon Rome founds her claim was left whole to be read saving this one piece of the sentence aedificabo Ecclesiam meam I will build my Church This was left fair and entire Obj. But are not those of the Church of Rome true Catholicks Ans. Christians were termed Catholicks ex obedientiae omnium mandatorum Dei From their Obedience to the whole Faith of Christ in Doctrine and Manners And he that wilfully offends in one is guilty of all and therefore they that through nesarious pride forsake and contumeliously reject or prophanely alter any point of the Orthodoxal Faith or audaciously add any thing thereunto are not to be reputed Catholicks but rather Antichrists Obj. Wherein doth the Church of Rome directly contradict oppose or alter the express word of God Ans. In many more particulars I shall instance a few First They worship Angels contrary to the express prohibition of Saint Paul Col. 11. 2. Secondly They adore the Cross and the figure of it with adoration of Latria which is the term whereby the soveraign Adoration wherewith they adore God is expressed which is directly and formally against the express words of our Lord Jesus Christ Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve Thirdly They make graven Images and