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A49982 An account at large of the Right Honourable the Earl of Danby's arguments at the Court of King's-bench at Westminster, upon his Lordship's motion for bail, the 27th day of May, term. pasch, 1682 together with the judges answers and the Earl's replyes, as they were then truly taken. Leeds, Thomas Osborne, Duke of, 1631-1712.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench. 1682 (1682) Wing L918; ESTC R863 28,531 31

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