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A89827 An answer to the booke called The perfect Pharisee under monkish holinesse: wherein is layd open, who they are that oppose the fundamentall principles of the doctrine of the Gospel, and the scripture practises, which the authors of that book would cast upon those they call Quakers, but are found to be themselves; who appear to be no ministers of the Gospel, but walke contrary to all that ever Christ sent forth in the scripture, scorning them who live the life of the scriptures, or are brought into the obedience of the same spirit. Published for no other end but to cleare the truth from the slanders of these men, who thereby goe about to deceive the simple, and keep them off from obedience to the truth. By one whom the world calls, James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1654 (1654) Wing N261; Thomason E735_2; ESTC R206955 29,772 36

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and for being Heingathen that is your owne vvho exercise authority over your owne hearers and pleade for your Heathenish customes vvhereby it appears ye know not God And vvhereas ye charge us with crying up our own holinesse and our selves as extraordinary Prophets Rabbies and Doctors I answer It is false for it is Christs holinesse vve owne and Christ the everlasting Prophet and Priest vve owne vvhereby vve deny ye vvho goe under the namy of Rabbies and Doctors And vvhereas ye charge us with neglect of Apparell Fasting and seperating from the world I answer What Apparell doe vve neglect saving the pride and vanity vvhich you live in and vve are made to vvitnesse against for vvhich you hate us And for Fasting and seperating from the World for shame doe not professe your selves to be Christians vvhile you cast the commands of Christ and practice of the Saints upon us in scorne and derision Did not Christ command to forsake the World and vvas not the Apostle in Fasting often but you shew your selves not to be guided by that spirit but envie them vvho are And ye that scorne Visions and Revelations are ignorant of that by vvhich the Saints came to know God for no man knowes God but by Revelation Whereas you charge us with laying the weight of our justification upon outward observances I answer It is false for the vveight of our justification is layd upon Christ in us the hope of glory Whereas ye say Ye have not been injurious to ●● in calling us Papists Monkes and Fryars I answer The injury vvill be to your selves for vve rest in patience vvhile vve see the Scripture fulfilled vvhich saith They shall cast out your names as evill and shall speake all manner of evill of ye falsely for my names sake which we beare with patience as owning it to be our portion from that Generation And now let every honest heart who reades these two Books and knoweth our practice and seeth the multitude of lyes and slanders cast upon us judge whether ye have done this from an honest principle and the establishing of the Faith or with an intent to slander us and make the truth odious because we have been brought forth as witnesses against your unrighteous practises and we leave it unto the righteous Judge who is the searcher of all hearts to cleare the innocent in his ow●e time and will and to find out the guilty and discover him that simple soules may be no longer deceived through false glosses and the subtilty of crafty men of corrupt minds for their owne ends which we know is the worke of the Lord that he is about and therefore with patience we waite his time into whose hands and keeping we commit our selves and all the faithfull of the Lord who is a sure refuge to the truth To whom be all glory and holy prayses from all that know him for evermore Amen And now a word to ye five who have subscribed this Booke that yee may see by what spirit yee are carryed on to utter so many untruths and false reports taken up by heare-say without any ground at all and divers things out of Books which you cannot be ignorant how ye have on purpose wrested to slander withall that if there be any Principle of honesty in any of you yee may repent before the Lord and that it may not be layd to your charge at the great day when all hearts shall be layd open But in the meane time this I know that what ye have intended against the truth and to keep off the simple from owning of it shall by the wisedome of God so lay open your deceit and envy that it shall advance the truth in the sight of every simple heart which if the truth may but be exalted and my Father thereby honoured it is nothing to me how vile I seeme before men and therefore in peace I rest giving my selfe to the will of God and what I have Written to be judged by all the Children of the light which is not my owne but his from whom I have received it who will defend it against all the wilde Beasts of the World and whom he will shall profit by it And so I rest a Servant of the Truth knowne to the World be the Name of James Nayler A Word to all those who live after their own wills that they may be Witnesses against themselves that they are Persecuters and may reade their Cloud of Witnesses who ever Persecuted the Righteous Seed who is our Cloud of Witnesses ALl People take warning now while you have time prize it for the mighty day of the Lord is comming Woe uoto you that are pro●d and high minded you will be as stubble before the fire howle woe and misery your down fall day is comming weep and howle ye mighty men ye lofty ones ye rebelliou● cones the sword of the Lord is drawne it is forbished and made fit for the slaughter the loftinesse of man shall be brought low cast off your hoods and your rings your filkes and your proud attire g●ird you with saekdoath prepare to meet the Lord the trumpet of the Lord is sounded his sword shall be made fat with slaughter and there shall be no peace to the wicked the Beast and the false Prophet shall be ca●● into the lake of fire great Babylon is come into remembrance before the Lord strong is the Lord that jungeth her she must have double for all her sins she must drink of the Cup of fury and indignation from the hand of the Lord for she hath made all Nations drunke with the Wine of her Fornication even all the Kings and great men of the Earth is drunke with the cup of Whoredome mystery Babylon the mother of Herlots hath deceived the Nations and she must be cast upon the bed of torment howle ye merchants of Babylon who through covetousnesse makes merchandise of soules howle ye proud Priests of Newcastle who set your nests on high and takes part with the Dragon in the warr against the Lambe and deceives the simple by your subtilties the Lord is comming to lay you open and to gather his sheep from your mouthes and you shall be taken with the Whore with whom you have committed Fornication and shall be partakers of her plagues for the wrath of the Lord is kindled against you and your destruction is at hand the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it therefore come out from among them my people and be ye seperated and I will receive you saith the Lord for now am I risen to redeem Syon with judgement and to render vengeance upon her oppressors Heare the Word of the Lord ye Inhabitants of the Land O how is the Land full of swearers and lyars drunkards and raylers scoffers and scornets O how full is the streets of prophane persons Esau like How full is the streets of proud ones who exalts themselves above all that is called god Tremble tremble ye lofty
inventions and braine study and come amongst people and say Heare the Word of the Lord when the Lord had not spoken to them but the salse Prophets did so and saith the Lord I am against them that steale my Word from their Neighbours and say The Lord saith when I have not spoken to them and ye doing the same things are discovered by the same spirit And whereas yee pleade against our using the Scripture phrase in thouing eve●y particular we speake to and pleading against us the customes of the Nation here yee shew your selves to be guided by a contrary spirit to Christ who leades his out of all the customes of the world and the Nations and thereby they are knowne not to be of the world and yee who are Ministers of the Letter and dispute against the language of it which none of Gods ever denyed or disputed against out of your enmity to the truth yee pleade against what yee professe and are ministers of and all this ye doe to maintain the confused language which all they who are redeemed out of the fall are restored to a pure Language Now as touching your consideration of our practises and first concerning Quaking and trembling to which yee adde grovelling upon the ground and foaming at the mouth which are lyes and slanders of your owne inventing but for quaking and trembling we owne it as that which the Lord hath said shall come upon all flesh and which the Saints have witnessed through the Scripture and if we should deny them we should deny the holy men of God as Moses Isaac David Habakkuk Daniel Ezekiel Ieremiah Paul and many other of the deare servants of God and shew our selves to be strangers to that condition by which they came to know the Lord as yee doe who revile and reproach it And whereas you tell of three sorts of trembling in the Scripture but know them not within your selves ye are not to be regarded nor what ye speake by heare-say who are scorners of their conditions which ye reade in Scripture neither doe ye know from what they proceed but judge of them in your owne imagination and in this as in other things contend against what is witnessed in Scripture 〈◊〉 up all the lyes slanders and weakenesse of any to cast 〈◊〉 the truth and the Saints condition And whereas ye say 〈◊〉 call these quakings our great perfection that is false and a lying slander like the rest our perfection stands not in any outward things but in the good and perfect gift which we receive in Jesus Christ Now of our second practice which ye call Rayling I answer If they speake of ye the things that are true and in which you live will ye call the truth Rayling though it come in an unwelcome language to the disobedient natures Was it rayling in Christ to call them The children of the Devill who brought forth the workes of the Devill or to call them Serpents and Vipers who sought by their subtilty to devoure the simple Or to call Herod a Fox who was a King or for the Apostles and Saints to call them Dogs and Swine who loved their sins and filthynesse and could not be kept from returning into it againe For they who did stand in the light of the spirit of God did discover the contrary spirit which did act severall wayes in the men of the world and some they saw to be Doggs some Wolves some bryars and thornes some high-Mountains some fat Bulls which did compasse the innocent about to devoure them some Witches who bewitched the Saints from the guiding of the spirit to carnall things Now will you call these Raylers because they speak the truth upon the severall actings of the spirit of the Devill where it was But they were the servants of the Lord and were meeke and gentle and patient towards all men even so these servants of the Lord now 〈◊〉 they speake the truth as things are found in ye revealed unto them by the same spirit are no raylers but are meeke gentle and patient notwithstanding they must doe the Message of the Lord faithfully Now to the third practice They pretending upon all occasions to be sent by Commission from God as 〈◊〉 shall instance in some cases following 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I answer the Messages that God have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his servants on have been strange to the world neit●●● could the world who knew not the voyce of the Lord ever ●w●● them but have been counted mad men mad fellows fooles ●●●●●● with new Wine and such like Yet I shall not here justifie every one who saith he is sent of the Lord for many lying spirits are gone out into the world but woe unto him that runneth and is not sent and belyeth the Lord when he hath not spoken unto him but as for your particuler charge● again●● particular persons I shall say little as not knowing the things in particuler but finding your Booke stust with lyes and untruths gives me cause to beleeve that many of these are like the rest Onely this is plaine Scripture That the Messages of the Lord which he sends his people on are foolishnes to the wisedom of the world and so they are to ye and though ye would appoint them their place and manner and time yet it is neither in your wills nor theirs but in the will of God which if any out of feare or favour doe not obey they shall suffer for it And whereas ye declare of comming of some of us to Newcastle this I witnesse to be true as in the pr●sence of God E. B. that our Call was from God and our Commission was from him and therefore did suffer persecution by you and by the Magistrates but as for our declaring our Message before the Magistrates my Brother and Sister were interrupted by some of you in their declaring But that they who were before the Magistrates were invited to go to any of your houses to speak is false and here W. C. is a false witnesse And whereas ye accuse us For casting off the Word of God I answer It is false for the Word of God we owne and obey for which we are scorned and suffers reproach by ye For your accusing George Fox for cursing Master Fetherston as ye call him I my selfe was in presence when Fetherston confessed that the words which George Fox spoke was Scripture And for your slander ye cast upon Christopher Atkinson and a Woman for their familiarity and to make a ground for your slander ye say to say no more but why to say no more if ye know more why doe you not speake the truth but slander in secret And here you false accuser thou and thy witnesse shall both be taken alive and cast into the Pit who hath deceived the people by thy false lyes and slanders thou charges me with my immodest familiarity with a Woman of C. A. my way and to colour thy deceit thou sayst to say no more thou false