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A67837 The Foxonian Quakers, dunces lyars and slanderers proved out of George Fox's journal, and other scriblers; particularly B. C. his Quakers no apostates, or the Hammerer defeated: amanuensis, as is said, to G. C. (as he sometime wrote himself) Gulielmus Calamus, alias, William Penn. Also a reply to W. C. (a churchman, the Quakers advocate) his Trepidantium malleus intrepidanter mallearum, &c. By Trepidantium Malleus. Trepidantium Malleus. 1697 (1697) Wing Y79A; ESTC R221296 38,865 109

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Symson Dr Sanderson and many others whose little ●●●ger was thicker than my Loyns We are better reconcil'd than you think for except a few men that talk as you write You tell me of one that said of me I was fit for Bedlam but it was as the Quakers say Good Company Mr Baxter was a Prodigee for natural and acquired Accomplishments I never doubted only he wanted the culture of better Education he was a grave Man of a sober life full of life and motion a hard Student very Zealous and of a Publick Spirit one of the gravest Preachers upon Earth which pleas'd me well and I more believe he was a Good Man than that Origen or Tertullian were so But the Quakers will say you take Advantage of my comparison between Baxterianism and Quakerism that I suppose pleaseth you why complain you if so but others will see where they are going whose Cure I hope and see and could tell of great instances of Great Men already were it convenient I expect no cure of Quakers when others made a comparison be tween Baxter and Bellermine N-doubt Papists triumpht What theno Protestants Reformed Because we are often twitted about some mens expresing themselves in these points particularly Mr. Shepheard I declare I am well assured that the Sinc●re Convert was never wrote by him he gave this under his own hand to Mr. Giles Fermin and told him He never saw it but once and neve● desired to see it more this Mr. Fermin in censuring that Book and Mr. Baxter's Saints Rest and other Tracts with great depth of judgment hath told the world I also with them disown Dr. Crisp's wild unsafe unsound expressions and as it is a trouble to me so it is to others particularly some Worthy Congregational Divines that some men who seem to plead our cause have dared to be his Advocates How odious is it to hear some men when reproved for idle walks about business Lords Days to say Jesus Christ hath kept the Sabbath for me c. and then cite Dr. Crisp why do not such say Jesus Christ hath kept the sixth seventh eighth Commandment for them and therefore they may Kill Commit Adultery and Steal s●●● may as well say Jesus Christ entent into Heaven for them and that is enough tho they never go there we are content with Mr. Bolton's way for Distressed Consciences Dr. Sibbs and others without the Doctor 's Wild Phrases But O wonderful you have some verses out of O●id too but still mistaken Quo me fixit amor quo me vehementuis ussit Whether the Printers mistake or yours is a query with me for the next verse which must be yours not his shews what you are Hei mihi quod Amor non-sit Medicabilis Herbis This strongly proves what you say Fools will be medling I suppose you learned it not out of Ovid but your Grammar at the end of Syntaxis look if you have it you shall find it thus Hei mihi quod nullis Amor est medicabilis Herbis Thou art not able to scan a verse is evident that took Quod a to be a ●●ondee when both short now how might I triumph had I but the tithe of thy Brutallity Seeing you love Cato so well I will direct to some choice verses and suitable ones too as well as I can remember without Books by me Virtutem primam esse puta compescere Linguam Had you remembred this and the next Rumores fuge ne inciipas novus Author haberi You had never Printed your fal●e stories of Box c. Fistula dulce canit volucrem dum decipit au●●ps You flatter the Church of England smile in her face and cut her throat Nam sine Doctrina vitu est quasi mortis imago There is for you Sir Now for some choice Sentences in Prose Erasmus if you have learn'd so far instead of your dull ones Si male dixeris pejus Audies That you deserve tho not have Bete sapiunt et Quercus concion●●● There is for you and the People now for his Eccho's Quid agunt qui ambiunt Sacerdotium Otium non felix si boni Literis Eris Now for some Proverbs Ne sutor ultra Crepidam Had G. Fox the poor Shoomaker and you thought of it he had not set up for a Preacher nor you for a Poet. Ante victoriam canis Triumphum be sure play the fool no more that way Omnium horarum homo for the Church of England and the Quakers at the same time too There is your man for you Asinus ad Lyram W. C. at the Poets Now I have stockt you How often will you throw out these sayings I have read them in Erasmus Adag and else where You are coming on as a precious Youth among Friends Sam Fisher or G. Fox cannot go beyond you for Lying in loathsome phrases and homspun Sentences Suppose I should in your words charge you as falsly as you me Forty times about Box or the Mad-house c. would you not and all the world with you say I was a most Impudent Rogue Suppose I should say You crac't brain Mad man in no degree Compis Mentis you measure your own Corn by anothers Bushel Learnedly Exprest You Cur you Yelping Cur you make my worship smile remember the Proverb about your charge of Amorous Passions c. the old woman had never sought her Daughter in the Oven had she not been there her self Remember how you were condemned for an Assassinator and are shortly to be hanged You got loose lately from a Mad-house remember what you endured there You were whipt about London streets for cutting Purses as all know You D●nce and Blockhead that write of Latin in Prose and Verse and understand not a sentence of either You deserve to have your bones broken Do you hear Goodman Goose Goodman Woodcock you ought to be thankful that I am so favourable to you Away you Blockhead to talk against the Dissenters I could answer you if I saw fit you deserve a kick o' th Or suppose my Book bore this Title The London Wise-aker Crack-brain'd Apostate maker proved an Apostate ab●ut his Numseul being a joco S●tyrical ●eturn to a tale of a Tub emitted by a Reverend Conformist How should I expose my self instead of you as you have done your self in ●tead of me Who shall believe such shameless ●nfamous Libellers as B. C. and W. C. ●rethren in Iniquity Had you served ●ome Men so they would have ruin'd ●ou both but you have done it your ●elves as to your Reputations c. I advise you read a Book over before ●ou answer it and if you have not so ●uch wit as to speak sense have so ●uch wit as to be silent The great Dean Thompson of Bristol remember once in the Church asked Boy before all the Congregation Quest Who made the Catechism ●●d Man's Chief End Answ A company of Perjur'd Pres●yterians Quest What did I do with one of those ●●●●hisms that that Prodigal
What a horrid Infamous piece of Flattery was it to tell that King That they nothing doubted the Security of their Religion and Property knowing al● pr●ceeded from Mature Judgment and P … ed Principles c. Yet 1. They kept Fast Days for fear of Popery and Slavery 2. Then could K. James be no Papist if he believed it Unl●wful to Persecute Men for Conscience in the common Acceptation of the Words then had the Pope Erred and a Council and that in no small matter but alas K. James knew Prose●ution of men for Heresie was no Persecution for Conscience besides an Erroneous Conscience was no Conscience Qui● non est scientia c. 3 The Addressers would say privately All was but a Trick of K. James No wonder he Laughed at them when they were gon and PVAW'd c. I have been every where of late years Plagued about those Scandalous Addresses Some would call a Second Judas a Second Cyrus and the Destroyer of their Countrey the Repairer of their Breaches Well done B. C. to call them that did it to Repentance I have called on them all little enough Now Friend C. let me ask thee a few Questions Was it not shameful to censure me and another man for not putting our names to our Books and thou never put thy name to thine I gave it out to all I was the Author May I not debate the matter with Jews Mahometans and others and yet be conclusive in the Doctrine of Christianity Why Child what ails thy Noddle Is it proper to censure me for being Comical after I gave my reasons and they not considered p. 6. Is it true W. Penn Expounded on Mat. 18.17 Tell the Church a sense denyed in one place confirmed in another to serve a Turn I see there was a little Mistake in putting the names of the Book could not so great a Lyar as thou that talks of my being once in a mad-house that deniest Quakers Bow Couldst not thou have said Son● Enemy or the Printer or others put in those Words or that some Letters accidentally jumpt together and make these unhappy Sentences Where is Inspiration now when he was lately told some Quakers deny any Body of Christ in heaven c. He said they were Ignorant tho Sincere What friend William is the Light and Infallible Spirit come to this Did I say in my Book The Quakers were more humble than others c. Away thou shameless Man What wilt thou say next Or that The Quakers were more Just than others No I did not so wrong them Did I not give a true account of Barclay about th● Light p. 79. Look once again May not Perfectionists long continuing so at last reform and so God 〈◊〉 merciful to them in their Conversion 〈◊〉 a proper Petition I am not used to deal with such silly Arguers Suppose I should plead the cause of him that wrote the story of Henry Windor let it not displease seeing he was joyn'd with me who he is I know not He is said to be worse then Mad worse then the Hammerer why the two Quakers that came to Henry Windor and his Wife from the Lord that they had Murthered a Child and must dye the Spirit would appear in the Court They were Melancholly or Mad says B.C. 1. They were owned by the Quakers before in and after to their Death 2. This Madness was not discern'd by the Justice or Judge or Quakers or others but the Quakers clos'd in with them 3. If any thing falls out as they say They be the Lords Prophets if not they were then mad Was Sollomon Eccles Mad when he Prophesied falsly to John Story not when he prophesied of the burning of London of which Friends took no more notice then the Men of the World and so never mov'd their Goods saying It was a Delusion Was W. Penn Mad when he prophesied against Thomas Hicks For the story in Bristol of a Quaker that said Thus saith the Lord give the man his Rope again it is denied so is every thing else but I pray Why not as well as when G. F●x was about to Eat The word of the Lord came unto him saying Eat n●t as before Now B. C. to humble thee if it may be for thy Folly and Falshood I will suppose I should apply my self to thee in the same Language thou hast done to me and with the like Falshood What wouldst thou say of me what many now do and many more will of thee Suppose I should besprinkle thee with some of thy Oratory to me and an●ther Th●u Impostor in thy Colours fit for Box or Bedlam in thy Youth thou wert burnt in the hand at Bristol for a Highway-man yea thou were Pillored ●nd thy Ears were cropt off for Sedition Thou refusest to Preach to the Quakers ●n●er Five Hundred a Year None of my Friends in Bristol ever deserted St. James's Back c. in the last Persecution and I will prove it for it is well known John Weeks was committed to Prison therefore neither he George Founs Samuel Winney nor I did ever refuse to walk up and down the City on week days or to Preach in our Publick Places to a thousand at a time Lords Days O thou Impudent Man Mad-man c. Thou didst prove the Vnlawfulness of Bowls and Nine-pins from Mat. 1.2 And Abraham begat Isaac and Isaac begat Jacob and Jacob begat Judas and his Brethren He must set up for the trade of Lying that doth it more than thou every leafe is full of Nonsense None have so much the command of the Peoples Purses as the She Speakers yet to avoid Reflections as much as may be I have thus spoken to thee c. But there is no end of this should I thus do might I not fear as Cain you had as good cut off a man's arm or leg as thus defame him VVell one consideration is comfortable a Quakers word is no Slander You have been known to be Notorious Lyars in your highest Pretences your greatest Speakers I had almost forgotten to tell the Reader that B. C. in the name of Friends says As Scripture contain the Word and Command of God to us so they are the word of God c. No more need to be said your cause is gone I therefore declare my work lies with Mr. Penn to him were my Questions sent and seeing he cannot answer and therefore wisely attempts it not I intend no more to answer such scriblers as B. C. I leave you with St. Paul's words Gal. 1.6 8 9. I marvel you are so soon removed to another Gospel but though we or an Angel from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you then which we have Preached unto you let him be Accursed as we said before so say I now again if any man Preach any other Gospel unto you then that ye have received let him be Accursed Which words have been wisely and seriously used by some Ministers when Quakers have come from far to