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A86188 Judas excommunicated, or A vindication of the communion of saints: being a brief examination and clear refutation of Mr Peter Lightfoots arguments for proof of Judas his receiving the sacrament of the Lords Supper, (which, could he prove, makes nothing at all for a mixt Communion.) / By Joseph Heming, a servant to all men in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Heming, Joseph. 1649 (1649) Wing H1420; Thomason E565_5; ESTC R206114 14,086 27

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he might conveniently betray Christ before he received the sop But 3. A man may properly be said to seek opportunity or conveniency to do that which he yet doth the same night Now let any one of common capacity even Mr Lightfoot himself judg in this case II. Is is plain saith he that Indas began his treason at Bothany Mat. 26.14 Mark 14.10 Answer Be it so but did he receive the sop there Nothing else passed at the Supper at Bothany concerning Indas but Christs rebuking him for his indignation at the spending of the alabaster box of precious ointment for which he took occasion to begin his treason III. The Devil saith he entred into Indas at Bethany Luk 22.3 and Vers 7. then came the Feast and all the Evangelists set the treason conspiracy before the feast of the Passeover Answer 1. Luke 22.3 speaks nothing at all of the Supper at Bethony nor of any thing done there 2. Though all the Evangelists place the Conspiracy before the Passeover yet they place not the giving of the sop at Bothany Read Mat. 26. Mark 14. Iohn 12 and see if you can finde any such thing there The Conspiracy is as clearly placed before the Sop as before the Passeover 3. The Original which Mr Lightfoot bids me observe in Iohn 13.2 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 others 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 however translated whether a great part of the Supper being done or when they were at Supper or Supper being begun or Supper being prepared and ready and set on table helps not his cause one Jot I will give him treb leave so he offer no violence to the Text to translate it for his best advantage when he writes next IV. It is plain saith he be received the sop before the Feast John 13.27 28 29. Answer 1. Perhaps Christ did not eat the Paschal Limb upon the same day the Jews did according to the judgment of Sealign Causabon and others as I have found them quored Moreover see Diodat on Mat. 26 17. and then the Feast the Disciples dream'd of might very well be the Jews Passover kept a day after I could speak more for proof of this from Iohn 18.28 19. 〈…〉 ever Mr Lightfoot will be able to answer but at present I refer him and the Reader to the places themselves 2. Observe how he would dawb over his own mistake with the untempered morter of the Disciples ignorance what so●● of them thought proceeded from their ignorance John 13.28 ●● If from this Scripture he will conclude that there was another thing to the poor The Diciples knew not as probably they might have conjectured from the discovery of Judas two days before and his abrupt departure then immediately upon receipt of the sop that he was to be betrayed that night as it fell out and will manifestly appear to any indifferent man that will but ●…gently read and seriously consider the whole story and then judg impartially For all the Disciples ignorance and Mr Lightfoot grounded upon theirs Christ had no more Feasts 3. Whereas he saith that we know the Lords Supper was given the Passeover day at night viz. the first Sabbath of the Feast whereon the Jews eat the Paschal Lamb. I am afraid he understandeth neither what he saith nor whereof he affirmeth 〈◊〉 be it so and then 1. How was Christ upon the Cross on the preparation day the day before the Sabbath according to these Scriptures Mat. ●● 62 Mark 15.43 Luke 23.54 Iohn 18.28 19.14.31 and 4●… Verses 2. How could he arise the day after the Sabbath namely the first day of the week Mark 16.2 Mat. 28. ● since he lay three days in the grave Doth the man believe think you that Christ eat the Passeover a day or two after he was dead Or that he did rise the next day after he had eaten it Spectatum ad●… risum teneatis amici What day thinks he Christ was betrayed and taken on Or how long was it between his taking and crucifying I wish the man be not found tardy here Thus Mr Lightfoots premises being weighed in the ballance of Verity and found lighter then Vanity what shall become of his conclusion But to trace my Gentleman a little further And it is plain saith he the premises considered at the Supper at Ierusalem he sate down with the twelve of which Iudas was one Mat. 26 20. Mark 14.17 Luke 22.14 He taxeth Judas for Treas●… Mark 24.18 Luke 22 2● Answer I. 'T is true he sate down at Jerusalem with that twelve of whom Judas was one in the common or ordinary Supper And. 2. 'T is as true that there as Mr Lightfoot doth most righteously affirm for the truth to the deeper wounding of his cuase lie t●●ed Judas for Treason gave him the sop and discovered 〈◊〉 and not at Bethany two days before Mr Lightfoot He delivered the S●or●mont to all Mat. 26. 26. Mark 14.23 Luk. 22 19. and they all drank of it Mark 14.23 Answer II. The 〈◊〉 doth nor say he delivered it to th●● worse but to all namely to all present for Indas had gotten the s●●p and was goes forth 2. It is had been said he gave it to the twelve yet that would prove nothing for in 1 Cor. 15.5 't is said He Christ was seen of Cophus and them of the twelve though he was ●●on only of theelaven Mat. 28.16 17. Mark 16.14 II Mr Lightfoot shall be so vain as to say behind my bick ●●cording to his usund custom Matthes was then 〈◊〉 in the room of Indas and therefore there were twelve I answer That is notoriously salts for Christs app●●ting was before his asce●tion and not after but Matthias was no● 〈◊〉 till after his aseention Acts 1.9 10 21 25 Verses to the end of the Chapter how then could he be chosen when Christ uppeared 3. Whereas he affirmeth that Christ gave the Sacrament to Judas I fear he doth him more injury then ever he will be able to account for at his tribunal Did not he usually except Judas Have I not chosen twelve and one of you it a Devil Joh. 6.70 Ye are clean but not all Joh. 1.10 11. And again Vers 1● I speak not of you all I know whom I have chosen c. But to those he gave the Sacrament he saith without exception 1. This is my body which is given for You. This is the ●●ly of the New Testument in my blood which is send for You Luk. 12.19.20 Surely Christ could not safely say so to Judas whom he 〈◊〉 to be a Devil eternaly lost 2. I will not drink hence forth of this fruit of the vine nu●●l that day I drink is new with you in my Fathers Kingdom Mat. 16.19 Had Christ means Indas as well as the rest as be 〈◊〉 has been present since he excepts him not he had been ●…ly ●…ken for he was never like to come there understand the Fathers Kingdom how you will 3. Luk. 22.28 29 30. Ye are they which have