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The healing attempt examined and submitted to the Parliament convocation whether it be healing or hurtful to the peace of the church.
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Long, Thomas, 1621-1707.
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Presbyters by divine authority where the publick Magistrate did permit it Dr. Cox. Although the Apostles had no authority to force any man to be Priests yet they moved by the Holy Ghost had authority of God to exhort and induce men to set forth God's honour and so to make them Priests Dr. Day The Apostles ordained Bishops by authority given them by God. Joh. 20. Sicut misit me c. Item Joh. ult Acts 20. 1 Tim. 4. Paulus ordinavit Timotheum Titum prescribit quales ille debeant ordinare 1 Tim. 1. Tit. 1. Dr. Oglethorp The Apostles by authority and command of God did ordain and institute Bishops leave being desired and obtained from the Prince or Magistrate who was then chief As I suppose Dr. Redman Christ gave his Apostles authority to make Bishops and Ministers in his Church as he had received authority of the Father to make them Bishops But if any Christian Prince had then been the Apostles had been and ought to have been obedient Subjects and would have attempted nothing but under the permission and assent of their earthly Governours Yet was it meet that they which were special and elect Servants of our Saviour Christ and were sent by him to convert the World and having most abundantly the Holy Ghost in them should have special ordering of such Ministry as pertained to the planting and increasing of the Faith whereunto I doubt not but a Christian Prince of his godly mind would most lovingly have condescended And it is to be considered in this Question with other like this word making a Bishop or Priest may be taken two ways for understanding the word to ordain or consecrate so it is a thing which pertaineth to the Apostles and their Successours only but but if by this word making be understood the appointing or naming to the Office so it pertaineth specially to the supreme Heads and Governours of the Church which be Princes Dr. Edgworth The Apostles made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God and not for lack of any higher power notwithstanding where there is a Christian King or Prince the Election Deputation and Assignation of them that shall be Priests and Bishops belongeth to the King or Prince so that he may forbid any Bishop within his Kingdom that he give no Orders for considerations moving him and may assign him a time when he shall give Orders and to whom Example of King David 1 Chron. 24. dividing the Levites into twenty four Orders deputing over every Order one chief Bishop prescribing an Ordinal and Rule how they should do their duties and courses and what Sacrifices Rites and Ceremonies they should use every day as the day and time required And his Son King Solomon diligently executed and commanded the same usages to be observed in the Temple after he had erected and finished it 2 Chron. 8. Dr. Symmons The Aposties made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God. Dr. Tresham The Apostles had authority of God to make Bishops yet if there had been a Christian King in any place where they made Bishops they would and ought to have desired authority of him for the executing of such Godly acts which no Christian King would have denied Dr. Leighton The Apostles as I suppose made Bishops by authority given to them of Christ howbeit I think they would and should have required the Christian Princes consent and license thereto if there had been any Christian Kings or Princes Dr. Coren The Apostles made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God Notwithstanding if there had been a Christian King at that time it had been their duties to have had his license and permission thereto Here you see they all affirm that the Apostles by authority from God did make Bishops as well as Priests and Deacons and that there needs no other authority for their Successours to do the like but what is given them of God. Now that they were distinct Orders will appear by the next Question Quest 10. Whether Bishops or Priests were first and if the Priest were first then the Priest made the Bishop The Bishop of St. Davids my Lord elect of Westminster Dr. Cox and Dr. Redman say That at the beginning they were all One. The Bishops of York London Rechester Carlisle Doctors Day Tresham Symmons Oglethorp be in other contrary Opinions The Bishop of York and Dr. Tresham think that the Apostles first were Priests and after were made Bishops when the overseeing of other Priests was committed to them My Lords of London Duresm Carlisle and Rochester Drs. Symmonds and Grayford think that the Apostles were first Bishops and they after made other Bishops and Priests Drs. Coren and Oglethorp say That the Apostles were made Bishops and the seventy two were after made Priests Dr. Day thinks that Bishops as they are now called were before Priests My Lord of London Drs. Edgworth and Robertson think it no inconvenience if a Priest made a Bishop in that time Quest 11. Whether a Bishop hath Authority to make a Priest by the SS or no and whether any other but onely a Bishop may make a Priest To the former part of the Question the Bishop of St. Davids doth answer That Bishops have no authority to make Priests unless they be authorized of the Christian Prince The others do all say That they be authorized of God. Yet some of them add That they cannot use their Authority without their Christian Prince doth permit them To the second part the Answer of the Bishop of St. Davids is That Lay-men have otherwhile made Priests So doth Drs. Edgworth and Redman say That Moses by a priviledge given him of God made Aaron his Brother Priest Drs. Tresham Grayford and Cox say That Lay-men may make Priests in time of necessity The Bishops of York Duresm Rochester Carlisle Elect of Westminster Drs. Coren Leighton Symmonds seem to deny this thing for they say They find not nor read not any such Example Quest 12. Whether in the New Testament be required any Consecration of a Pishop and Priest or onely appointing to the Office be sufficient The Bishop of St. Davids saith That onely the appointing And Dr. Cox That onely the appointing cum manuum impositione is sufficient without Consecration The Bishops of York London Duresm Carlisle Drs. Day Coren Leighton Tresham Edgworth Oglethorp say That Consecration is requisite Dr. Redman saith That Consecration hath been from the Apostles time and instituted of the Holy Ghost to confer Grace My Lord of Rochester Drs. Day and Symmons say The Priesthood is given per manuum impositionem and that by Scripture and that Consecration hath of long time been received in the Church So that in this Paper which contains a previous Consultation some years before to the things published in the Necessary Erudition they did generally agree That the Office of Bishops is mentioned in Scripture That they were of a superiour Order to Priests That the Apostles
Chiefty in Government over Presbyters as well as Lay-men a Power to be by way of Jurisdiction a Pastor even to Pastors themselves And the things which properly belong to a Bishop cannot be common to other Pastors and of Bishops restrained to some definite local compass he says their Regiment we hold to be a thing most Divine and Holy in the Church of Christ In two things J. H. notes that Hooker differs from the Non-Cons p. 40. 1. They make the Superiority or Priority of Order to be but Temporary he makes it permanent 2. They deny the Bishops have any Power over other Pastors that is Mandatory Judicial and Coercive Mr. Hooker affirms it Then he shews how Mr. Hooker resolves a Sentence of St. Hierome which seems inconsistent with itself viz. How the Apostles should be the Authors of that Government i. e. Episcopacy and yet the Custom of the Church be accounted the chief Prop of it To which the substance of his Answer is That what Laws the Universal Church might change and doth not St. Hierome ascribes the continuance of such Laws tho' instituted by God himself to the Judgment of the Church for they which may abrogate a Law and do not may be said to establish it and seeing the whole Church receiving it for a Custome which was established by them on whom the Holy Ghost was in an abundant manner poured out for ordering of Christ's Church it had either Divine appointment before-hand or Divine approbation afterwards Now how Mr. J. H. could from these premises draw this following conclusion I cannot perceive p. 44. Let there be saith he as many Bishopricks as there are considerable Personages and a Provision made for the Presbyters which are to assist the Bishops in the Government of the Churches and then a Superiority of the Bishop above the Presbyters will be no longer a Bone of Contention The Sense whereof seems to me to be this Let the Presbyters in every Parish have all the Power that belongs to Bishops and then and not else they will be pleased But the Judicious Hooker would not have been so pleased with them that should have inferred this conclusion from any premises of his That which followeth our of Mr. Hooker's maimed Book is 1. That the Church Visible hath not ordinarily allowed any but Bishops alone to Ordain howbeit in some necessary Cases we may decline from the ordinary ways 2. That Confirmation hath not always belonged to the Bishops but in some places in the absence of the Bishop the Presbyter might Ordain 3. That the Presbyters are for the most part mentioned as Counsellors and Assistants to the Bishop The last Bishop whom he would constrain to help on his New Model is Bishop Bilson who says That to prevent Dissention and Confusion there must needs even by God's Ordinance be a President or Ruler of every Presbytery but that in the Apostles times the Presidentship should go round to every Presbyter by course this is the main point between us Then he says There are Four Things must be perpetual in the Church 1. The Dispensing of the Word And 2. Sacraments 3. Imposing of Hands 4. Guiding the Keyes to shut or open the Kingdom of God. The first Two belong to all Pastors or Presbyters but it belongs to some selected persons who succeed in the Apostles places to moderate the Presbyters of each Church and to take the special Charge of Imposition of Hands And this singularity in succeeding and superiority in ordaining hath been observed from the Apostles times as the peculiar and subsiantial Marks of Episcopal Power and Calling As to the Power of the Keyes the private use of them in appointing Offenders upon the acknowledgement of their sins to for bear the Lord's Table for a time we deny not to Presbyters but the Bishop is by Christ's own mouth pronounced to be the Angel of the Church the chief Steward of his Houshold to hear and determine Grievances with whom the Presbyters sate at first as Assessors but when Councils began only as Beholders and Advisers of his Judgment and he adds that the right by imposing Hands to Ordain Presbyters and Bishops was at first derived from the Apostles to Bishops and not to Presbyters N. B. And for 1500 Years without instance or example to the contrary till this our Age remained in Bishops and not in Presbyters for which he quotes St. Hierome Quid faecit excepta ordinatione Episcopus quod non facit Presbyter J. H. observes that whereas it is objected That Imposition of Hands was by the Presbytery he answers out of St. Chrysostom that by the word Presbytery in SS must be understood Bishops not Presbyters because Presbyters in the Apostles time did not impose Hands on a Bishop And from this Bishop he adds All that we can say for Bishops above Presbyters out of SS is that the Holy Ghost by the mouth of St. Paul hath given the Bishop of each place Authority to Ordain the worthy to examine such as be faulty to reprove and discharge such as be guilty either of unsound Teaching or offensive Living and this he saith belongs to all Bishops of Christ's Church forever I have transcribed so much of these Quotations because the very repetition of them is a confutation of that Design which Mr. H. attempts and will shew it to be not a healing but a very hurtful Attempt as precluding that way of Peace and Reconciliation which is generally intended if the unreasonable Demands of some unquiet Men do not put a bar to it Thus saith Mr. J. H. I have gone through the principal Writers about Church Government in Queen Elizabeth 's Reign And indeed he hath cull'd out such Foundations on which he would build his Hay and Stubble as will no way suit with them I shall not prepossess the Reader with the inferences which J. H. would force from them but leave every Man to consider whether he can fix his Half-sheet Model on these Concessions and now briefly inform the Reader of the Judgment of some of these Divines and some States-men what Qualifications he and such Master-Builders are endowed with for the Building of a Temple fit for the Publick Worship of God and our Saviour And I shall begin with The Speech of the Lord Keeper Puckering to the House of Lords by Order of Queen Elizabeth ESpecially you are commanded by Her Majesty to take heed that no ear be given nor time afforded to the wearisome Sollicitations of those that are commonly called Puritans wherewithal the late Parliament have been exceedingly importuned which sort of Men while in the giddiness of their Spirits they labour and strive to advance a new Eldership they do nothing else but distract the good Repose of the Church and Common-wealth which is as well grounded for the body of Religion it self and as well guided for the Discipline as any Realm that professeth the Truth and as the present case standeth it may be doubted whether they or the