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A83563 One blow at the feet of the imposing formal Quaker's image: or, Rather an epistle of love and good will to them, to shew them their great weakness (if not folly) in saying thee and thou ... / writ by Nich. Eed ... Eed, Nich. 1693 (1693) Wing E241B; ESTC R171910 6,915 8

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Deliverance so if you could look back and consider how little your Work in throwing down Tyths is the forwarder for Forty Years Labour in Sufferings you might have good Ground to kneel down in Obedience and Peace in the Will of your Heavenly Father praying him in his time by the Supream Power to take off that and all other Burthens from the Poor and this your Obedience might be better in his sight than all your Offerings against the King's Law But to strive so hard for your Deliverance before the Lord's time you may bring your selves the more into Bondage And again you Quakers that are so much for your own Rights and Properties what good reason can you shew against the Impropriators Tyths you deny that also which does not go to maintain a false Worship are there not many Widows and Fatherless Children whose Maintenance lieth altogether in that will you allow them other Maintenance if you could keep that from them Doth your pretending that you are led by a Divine Power give you a Prerogative to do an unjust thing But this is the Quakers great reason against the Priest's Tyths they say it goes to maintain a false Worship and to maintain God's Enemies Answer It was the manner of Hypocrites to discern Moats in their Brothers Eyes when they did not see the Beam in their own so before you stone others for Adultery cleanse your selves Does not the Priest preach God was in Christ Reconciling the World to himself not imputing their Sin and also layeth the danger of Sin before them which goeth on in it after a wilful manner and so he sets before the People the Joys of Heaven and Terrros and Pains of Hell and them Priests which do perform in their place what they believe is their Duty to God according to the Light and Knowledge God hath given them why may not they find Merc● of the Lord as well as you and if God have bestowed more upon you than he hath upon them and you walk not answerable as many of you do not you will be worthy of more Stripes and as for their being God's Enemies if it be so it is your Duty to leave Judgment and Vengeance to the Lord. But suppose the King and Parliament should hearken to you Quakers so as to throw down the Tyths Church and Priests altogether what would become of all the Babes and Lambs amongst them your Breasts would be unnatural to them it would kindle such a Fire and Flame about their Ears that all the Wisdom and Power you have would not be able to quench it So it would be more Wisdom to hearken to Jeremiah and Peter at this time and submit to this Ordinance of Man for the Lord's ●ake then you would shew your selves a little more like the Lord which is a Power of Love to all but if you have but little of this at Heart then exercise something of Christian Prudence in submitting and let your Moderation be seen to all Men for who knoweth how nigh the Day of the Lord is at hand to render a Recompence to every one according to his VVorks The Quakers may say to me If it were upon some other account I could pay it but this I cannot pay Come I will reason a little with you why cannot you submit to this Ordinance as well as some other which some of you have declared against as well as you did against this viz. against Fighting you said you could not pay to the maintaining of that which was for the destroying Men's Lives with carnal Weapons but you have payed towards the former Wars against Holland and do pay now which doubtless have and will destroy a Multitude of Men's Lives Now my Brethren why should you be so much against this outward Ordinance of Tyths which was never ordained to destroy Men's Lives but rather to save their Lives by feeding them and as the Case stands now you are not bound to joyn in their Worship but by giving so much Money or Goods which are but outward things here is nothing required of bowing to it in your Hearts or Minds And again when I in Weakness did refuse to pay Tyths the Minister was so fair to me he said If you cannot give it me as my due give it me out of Charity and give me what you will yet I took the Advice of the Quakers and went to Goal and when I and others were there we were ready to seek such Favour of the Gaoler as the Priest offered and if he would shew us any kindness and leave us to our Freedom we were very ready to give him a Reward and so concerning his Fees which was judged as unfit to be paved as Tyths yet if he would leave it to us if we gave him as much or more This was not judged a miss Now to conclude although I may erre or fail through Weakness yet I cannot be a Heretick because I do what I believe 〈◊〉 my Duty They have spoken against me with a lying Tongue They compassed me about with words of Hatred and fought against me without a cause For my love they are my Adversaries but I give my self unto Prayer Psal 109. 2 3 4 5. THE END London Printed for the Author and are to be Sold by J. Gwillim Bookseller over against the 〈◊〉 James in Bishopsgate-street and Edw. Swaine 〈◊〉 the Faulcon-stairs near the Bank-side in Southwark 1693.
One Blow at the Feet of the Imposing Formal Quaker's Image or rather an Epistle of Love and good Will to them to shew them their great Weakness if not Folly in saying Thee and Thou and also for not putting off the Hat and not paying of Tyths Writ by Nich. Eed one of their Society until J. Kilburne and N. Geats two Preachers were moved by a Proud and Lying Spirit to cast great Reproachful Lies upon me which they in Justice which is one of the least Marks of a true Christian ought to make out their Assertions or else to acknowledge their Failings which I have long ago laid before them in Print January the 7th 1692 3. This may be Printed Ed. Bohun A Few Words by way of Counsel and Advice for the present time to the Quakers in general but more particularly to all the honest upright-hearted and younger sort whether young in Years or lately convinced and may justly serve for a Reproof for the High and Lofty Proud Formal Hypocrites among them which are through a fiery Zeal so fierce for their outward Orders that all which come not to take up a Profession of these three things and several others are judged unworthy to be received into their Church-Fellowship or Body though other wise never so honest yet without a due Observation of these things according to their Prescriptions to many of them do hold forth by their Judgment that a Person can never come to have true inward Fellowship with the Invisible Head and only Saviour of the World First Concerning Thee and Thou the Quakers themselves as well as the general part of Christendom do declare and hold forth that the Soul is Immortal and the Body is Mortal then I pray may not I believe and also ask the moderate Quakers whether there be not two Beings in every Man and Woman and then seeing it is so by their Judgment whether it be not according to the Form of sound Words to say You to a Man or Woman tho' a thing they do mightily exhort their Hearers against often telling them Keep to the form of sound Words use plain Language and stand in the Cross to thy own Will in thesesmall things or else thou wilt never come to inherit the Crown and it may be tell them I will not say a great Lye This is the Word of the Lord to thee whosoever thou art that art guilty in shunning the Cross and then say I accuse no particular but speak the Truth to all as Love opens and springs in my Heart that thou maist not flee the Cross and miss the Blessing and end thy Days in Sorrow If the Quakers Object and say The Soul and Body being united together make but one Being and Person and therefore we cannot speak the Truth to our Neighbour if we say You to one and the Scripture useth no such Custom as for what is used in the Scriptures you know many of you have in publick Testimonies and in Print denied that to be the Rule of Faith and Life yet the Scriptures do not make a Man an Offender for a Word for God looketh more at the Truth and Sincerity of the Heart than the outside shew Again If they object and say We know the old Man put off with his Deeds and the fleshly part is Crucified Answer I know Hypocrites were always as ready to justifie themselves as You and I knew some Preachers and heard of many counted very Eminent and Antient among you that were as ready to justifie themselves as you which were so viciously given to Women that they had great Bellies laid to them which would not have been done if their Flesh had been Crucified Now Paul did not speak so highly of himself as tho' he had already attained to the Resur●ection but said I labour to keep my Body under and to bring it in Subjection lest when I have Preach'd the Gospel to others I my self should be a cast away at first some pretended the Spirit led them into Yea and Nay then what Spirit was that which led them out of it again Yet I do not blame you in this for words at best should signifie nothing but a true Declaration of the Heart and Mind Concerning the putting off your Hat what Scripture can be shewn against such a civil Respect among People where it hath been so long used The Scripture saith Give no Offence to Jew nor Gentile c. as much as in you lieth but this hath given Offence to many Now the Scripture saith Honour all Men love the Brotherhood Fear God and Honour the King yet I believe true Honour does stand and consist in a true Love and willing Obedience one to another in all Just Commands and Requirings This is true Honour thus to serve one another in Love and thus to serve our chief Magistrate and his Ministers under him this is according to God's Ordinance but this putting off the Hat is but an outward shew or civil Respect which one may have towards another without the Breach of any Law or Command of God that ever I knew of but the true Honour is a more inward thing Now put the Case thus that a Man may pass quietly about his Business if he observe and perform this civil Respect which they do require of their Apprentices and Servants tho' they will not give it to the King But if any say to me when John fell down at the Angel's Feet to worship him the Angel forbid him and said See thou do it not for I am thy Fellow-Servant But this is no thing to my Discourse I am not Pleading for one to worship another but only for that civil Respect which may be given one to another without falling down as to an Image to worship this was as true from the beginning as when the Angel spoke it to John for the Lord was only to be worshiped But did Jacob transgress against God think you when he bowed his Body to the Grouud to his elder Brother and his Hand-maids and Wives bowed to him also Gen. 33. and when Jacob taught his Servants to say It is a Present sent unto my Lord Esau do you think he sinned in all this Gen. 32. 18. and when David had Saul at his Mercy and also had the Promise of the Kingdom yet he said I will not put forth my Haad against my Lord. 1 Sam. 24. 10. and do you think the Prophet wanted your outward Orders to walk by and so sinned for want of it When he said I pray thee O my Lord the King let my Supplication I pray thee be accepted before thee Jer. 37. 20. And what if any Quaker now in the true Fear of God should pull off his Hat to the King or civil Magistrate and say Your Servant my Lord c. do you think he would be ever the worse Man if he did it from a true inward Sence of what was his Duty to the King c. Or do you think it is not