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A96214 Questions propounded by the natural man by way of reasoning. And answered by the spiritual man: but the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them: it is written for the use of them that halteth, that they may be gathered: in which reason Babylon is fanned, and her land emptied, for so it is written. Whereunto is added a few lines for the rulers of the land, in love to their souls. West, Robert, fl. 1683, attributed name.; R. W. 1657 (1657) Wing W1384; Thomason E910_9; ESTC R207516 11,824 16

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and brought up children and they have rebelled against me the Ox knoweth his owner and the Ass his Masters crib but Israel doth not know my People doth not consider THis is thy state O Land thou knowest not the Lord thy Maker neither wilt thou understand but walkest on in darkness all thy foundations are out of course wo is me for thee Wilt thou not be made clean When shall it once be Be instructed O Land least the Lord depart from thee and make thee desolate a land not inhabited for what art thou unto God more then other Nations which was before thee which was made desolate that thou shouldest not bee made desolate Seeing he is no respector of persons a God that changeth not who will by no means clear the guilty as it appeareth by the Scriptures of Truth for the Angels that kept not their first estate are reserved in chains under darkness unto the Judgement of the great day Likewise the old world for their wickedness was drowned Except eight persons Sodom and Gomorrah with the Cities about them for sin suffered the vengeance of eternal fire Israel in the Wilderness for rebelling against the Light oft times was plagued and for forsaking the Commandments of the Lord in the Land of Canaan was carryed away captive by Shalmanezer except the Tribe of Judah onely and that Tribe also for sin was carryed into Babylon and after their return and rebuilding of their City and Temple for sin both City and Temple became heaps and Zion to be plowed as a Field and themselves scattered amongst the Nations unto this day being a prey to the Heathen Now all these things happened to them for insamples and they are written for our admonition upon whom the ends of the world are come Now consider this all you that are enemies to th● Light in you and that buildeth Temples without where God dwels not and prepares a Table for that Troop and that ●urnish the Drink-offering unto that number for the Lord shall slay thee and ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my choen saith the Lord and I will call my servants by another name because when I called ye did not answer when I speak ye did not hear but did evil before mine eyes and did choose that wherein I delighted not therefore it will be more tollerable for Tyre and Zidon and Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of Judgemeet then for thee O Land except thou repent who have bad so many examples of Gods severity for in thee rhe Prophets prophesie faisly and the Priests bears rule by their means and the people will have it so and as Troops of Robbers wait for a man so the company of Priests murders in the way by consent for they commit lewdness as appeared unto and by the late Jewries who was employed by the Authority to enquire concerning their lives and Doctrines who upon their Oaths testified That they was ignorant scandalous ungodly many of them whose God is their belly who minde earthly things whose glory is their shame and who yet are thy Teachers in many places deliver thy self from them and break of thy sins by righteousness and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poore which thou hast oppressed and imprisoned that the Lord thou mayest come to know and rest with us or else when the Lord shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty Angels in flaming fire vengeance on thee shall be taken that know not God and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his Power 2 Thess 1.8 9. Thus have I cleared my conscience whether thou wilt hear or whether thou wilt not hear I am free from thy blood who am a lover of that Light which reproves thee and if it loveth thee not it will condemn thee Thus thou hast warning by R. VV. These Lines are written that men might learn not to blaspheme the living God whose wayes are upright BLasphemy is a belying the truth and saying that men are Saints when they are not Isa 37.3 Rev. 2.9 13.5 6. Ezek. 35.12 The Principle of it is that in every one which opposeth the Light whether in themselves or in others as will appear by these following lines as it is noted in the Scriptures of truth Matth. 15.19 2 Thes 2.4 Rev. 2.9 First Blasphemy is a belying the truth and this is truth That God decreed no man to destruction but mans destruction is of himelf Luke 22.65 Prov. 6.32 Hos 13.9 Secondly When Adam transgressed and we in him God doth devise means that his banished be not expelled from him that without respect of persons 1 Cor. 15.22 2 Sam. 14.14 Act. 10.34 Deut. 10.17 Rom. 2.11 1 Pet. i. 17. For the Lord hath no pleasure in the death of the wicked nor is he willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance Ezek. 33.11 2 Pet. 3.9 Thirdly That all men might he that gave himself a ransom for all hath tasted death for every man 1 Tim. 2.6 Heb. 2.9 Fourthly He that dyed for all for all was dead hath lighted every man which light is life and came upon all men unto the justification of life 2 Cor. 5.14 Joh. 1.9 Rom. 5.18 Fifthly He that receiveth this gift denyeth himself and findeth life Mark 8.34 Rom. 9.16 Eph. 1.11 Psal 144.10 Hos 13.9 2 Pet. 3.9 Isa 55.7 Eph. 5.13 1 Iohn 3.8 and so it s not of man that willeth nor of him that runneth but of God who worketh all things after the Counsel of his own will and so our salvation is of God but our destruction is of our selves for God is not willing that any should perish but man is not willing to forsake his sins which is the cause of perishing but man would be saved from wrath but not from sin which is the state of wrath Rom. 2.8 9. which the Light doth manifest and would destroy in us if he was not resisted by us Act. 7.51 and 13.46 He that being often reproved hardneth his neck shall suddenly be destroyed and that without remedy Prov. 29.1 R. W. A Copy of two Letters as followeth which was sent unto two called Ministers with nine Queries JEffrey Sunkens I being informed that thou on the tenth or eleventh day of Decemb. 1656. at Justice Pierces House dids declare as foleth That the Scriptures are a Christians Rule of life and ground of Faith and that only upon the hearing of this thy affirming it I was moved to write unto thee these my following Queries First Whether Abrahams rule of life and ground of faith was Scriptures and that only seeing there was none as I know if so what Scriptures the whole or part yea or nay Secondly Whether Abrahams rule of life and ground of Faith was not one with Abel and Noah and all the holy men of old if so Whether that one ground was not
Rev. 18.4 but if you support her you must persecute and that will be grievous for you one day who have been such great Professors and by whom the Lord hath removed persecutors that was before you Now in love to you and the truth for whose sake I am moved to write unto you that all may read and search the Scriptures of truth Dan. 10.21 whether according to it yea or nay this be the Gospel that is preached by them that are called Ministers who have separated themselves having not the spirit Jude 19. Mic. 3.11 Gen. 12.3 Deut. 30.14 Rom. 1.16 Gen. 22.18 Luke 7.21 Col. 1.27 Joh. 1.10 and preacheth for hire I say Whether it be the same Gospel which was preached by God to Abraham Isaac and Jacob and that Moses and the Prophets and Christ and his Apostles did preach for that was one not divided and it was the power of God unto salvation unto every one that did believe and it was in them as it is written In thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed saith God to Abraham Saith Moses The word is very nigh unto thee even in thy mouth and in thy heart Saith Christ The Kingdom of God is within you Saith Paul Christ in you the hope of Glory whom we preach Thus was the Gospel preached by the holy men of old which was in the world and the world knew him not and truly if there had not been a seed in us in which the blessing is which was and is the Gospel we had been as Sodom and made like unto Gomorah for if Jesus Christ be not in you saith Paul ye are reprobates Acts 9.1 Gal. 1.1 Now before Paul knew Christ to be in him he persecuted him but when it pleased God to reveal his Son in him he preached him in the world whom the world knew not but was to them a mystery as he is this day where he is not believed on in them for the Antichristian Ministry hath preacht him up in Heaven of a distance from man 1 Joh. 5 1● so long that by it they have preacht him out of the hearts of the people to be looked for Therefore take heed my dear Friends and now Rulers what Gospel you do promote and what Ministry you do set up for the Spirit of Life which is the Lord is risen in our hearts and he is entered into his Witnesses 2 Pet. 1.19 Rev. 11.11 2 Thes 2.8 which is the Light of Christ and spirit of men and the time is at hand that the dead should be judged and the man of sin revealed and consumed and the glory of all flesh to be stained the Star of Jacob to be exalted who is risen in our hearts and arising in many thousands that the kingdom of this world may become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ whose day is at hand Therefore fall away from the man of sin which is in the Temple your body that the day of Christ you may see for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first the man of sin be revealed which is that in you that opposeth the Light of Christ and his Ministry and exalteth it self which must be consumed before the glory of the Lord be revealed in you Kom 8.18 Jer. 31.34 and his teachings you come to know which is in spirit to be received which makes perfect now as ever did the spirits of just men who believeth the teachings of God in spirit as Abraham did for when God said to Abraham VValk before me and be thou perfect he believed God and did not say It cannot be in this world and whose saith It cannot be in this world denyeth Abrahams Faith Eph. 4.12 Christs Exhortation Prayer and Ministry which was all for the perfecting of the Saints in this world whereof the Apostles were Witnesses with the holy men of old as saith the Scriptures Job 1.1 8. Heb. 12.23 1 Joh. 4.17 and they that denyeth perfection attainable in this world denyeth Christs Exhortation Prayer and Ministry and indeed shuts the Kingdom of Heaven against men Rev. 21.27 for into it can enter no unclean thing Consider of these things I pray you that you support no longer that Ministry which denyes perfection to be attainable in this world and take the means into your hands which is the cause thereof that the Lords people may be freed by you without as they are by him in spirit to serve him in righteousness and holiness without fear all the dayes of their lives which is the desire of yours in the Truth This was delivered unto some of the Members of Parliament and desired to be by R. W. read amongst them The End
invisible yea or nay Thirdly Whether there be any other rule of life or ground of faith for Christians now if not whether their rule of life and ground of faith was not before the Scriptures was yea or nay Fourthly Whether the Apostles rule of life and ground of faith when they was sent forth to preach was visible or invisible things made ready to their hands or other mens lines yea or nay Fifthly Whether there be any other rule of life or ground of faith for the Ministers of Christ now to walk by but the same they walked by yea or nay Sixthly Whether they made Scriptures their rule of life or ground of ground of faith or commanded others to make the Letters they did write to the Saints their rule of life or ground of faith and that onely yea or nay Seventhly Whether the Church of Romes rule of life and ground of faith be not the Letters of others and whether Romes Church be not Antichristian yea or nay Eightly Whether thy making the Letters of others the rule of life and ground of faith be not another foundation then that the Apostles laid seeing thou sayes that only and whether thou art not one with the Church of Romes rule of life and ground of faith if not shew the difference yea or nay Ninthly Whether making the Letters of others to be the Rule of life and ground of faith and that onely be not transforming as the Ministers of Righteousness and whether Satan and his Ministers doth not so yea or nay Thus in love to that in thee that never changeth which doth reprove thee and except it changeth thee it will condemn thee otherwise thy Friend Robert VVest expects thy answer I having received no answer unto this day being the twelfth day of the second Month 1657. therefore I desire it to be printed for the use of all For the foundations of the earth shall be discovered the gods thereof famished and their Ladder-work uncovered Mic. 1.6 Zeph. 2.11 14. This Letter following was delivered with six of these queries to one Henry Johnsons called Minister of the Borough of the Devises in Wilts by R. W. about twelve Months since but no answer returned returned although desired and expected HEnry Johnsons in love to thy soul and the souls of whom thou must give an account of unto the living God I am moved to write unto thee that thou mayest take warning and not destroy thy self and the souls of them for whom Christ dyed for filthy lucres sake as the false Prophets did of old for there were false Prophets among the people even as there shall be false Teachers amongst you who privately shall bring in damnable Heresie even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of 2 Pet. 2. read that chapter and take warning Consider also what John saith He that transgresseth and abideth not in the Doctrine of Christ hath not God 2 Epist ver 9. Now the Doctrine of Christ to the Pharisees thou mayest read Matth. 23. where are eight woes to them and thou walking in their steps must partake of their woes for they were called of men Masters and stood praying in the Synagogues and talked of Scriptures and thought in them to have eternal life Joh. 5.39 Now deal honestly with thy self art not thou one in thought with them as well as in practice with them and Corah who said all the Congregation are holy Numb 16.3 or else why dost thou baptize all that are brought to thee O Henry I see by the Light I have from the Lord Christ that thou art a line without the Law as once Paul was when he persecuted Christ in his Members as thy hearers do me and so thou art in the flesh and he that is in the flesh cannot please God Rom. 8.8 Be silent O all flesh before the Lord for he is raised up out of his holy habitation Zach. 2.13 for thy strength is to stand still and to wait for the revelation of Jesus Christ which made Paul a Minister and say not that revelation is ceased now as once thou didst to me For no man knoweth the Father but the Son and he to whom he will reveal him And his spirit witnesseth to our spirit that we are the sons of God for as many as are lead by the spirit of God they are the sons of God Rom. 8.14 And that is my Rule and this denyes not Scriptures but opens them when to all thy learned they are as a Book sealed so they were to the chief Priests and Pharisees when Christ came in the flesh for with all their Hebrew Greek and Latine they could not know him as thou mayest see Matth. 16.14 15. for they had their saying who he should be and when he asked his Disciples they were silent save he who had a revelation who had a revelation who said he was the son of the living God And there is no other knowing of him now savingly nor never was though false Apostles or Ministers may transform themselves as the Ministers of Righteousness whose end shall be according to their works 2 Cor. 11.15 as thine is for under thy Ministry groweth bryars and thorns and stubble and no marvel for they that God sent not shall not profit the people at all Jer. 23.32 For by their fruits ye shall know them saith Christ Matth. 7.15 16. where he bids us beware of them Blessed be his Name that their marks they cannot blot out Now read and confider these lines I pray thee before the Lord and look into thy conscience for the Lords sake that thou mayest not destroy thy self and the souls of them that hear thee and remember thou hast been warned by a friend to thy soul A few Lines for the Rulers of the Land in love to their souls Be wise O ye Kings be instructed ye Judges of the earth serve the Lord with fear and rejoyce with trembling for God will bring every work into judgement with every secret thing whether it be good or whether it be evil Psal 2.10 Eccles 12.14 Having read in some Papers of your zeal in promoting the Gospel of Christ it is good to be zealously affected alwayes in a good matter But O ye Rulers see you to your matter 2 Sam. 15.3 for there is a way that seems right to a man but the end thereof is death and there may be a zeal but not according to knowledge And there is a name to things Rom. 10.2 Rev. 2.9 Gal. 1.9 but the things are not so as they are named And there may be that called Gospel and preached for it and it not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ Now let them be accursed that preaches it but be you free and be not partakers of other mens sins that both you and the Nations may be freed from the plagues of Babylon for if you support her not she cannot stand