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A26253 An exact copy of a letter from the Count d'Avaux, His Most Christian Majesties ambassador at the Hague dated the 9th of January 1684 and directed to the King his master which was intercepted by the Marquess de Grana governour of the Spanish Netherlands : as also the copies of other three letters relating to the same affair. Avaux, comte d' (Jean-Antoine de Mesmes), 1640-1709.; Louis XIV, King of France, 1638-1715. 1684 (1684) Wing A4267; ESTC R26666 6,298 4

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An Exact COPY OF A LETTER FROM THE COVNT D'AVAVX His Most CHRISTIAN MAJESTIES Ambassador AT THE HAGUE Dated the 9th of JANVARY 1684 And Directed to the KING his MASTER which was intercepted by the Marquess DE GRANA Governour of the Spanish Netherlands As also the Copies of other Three Letters relating to the same Affair SIR I Had the Honour two days ago to make known to your Majesty that the Lords of Amsterdam desired that I would by a Memorial to the States general make known those good Sentiments which your Majesty hath taken up for the rest and quiet of that republick in case the Spaniards should let pass without effect the prefixed time of the Month of Jan. but that I had refused to present such a Memorial In the mean time Sir the Lords of Amsterdam are not able by their Authority to bring the States General to deliberate upon some Affairs to do which it will be necessary that Pensionary Fagel and the Deputies of the States General do consent before they look upon themselves obliged by the presentation of a Memorial But as it was 205 33 for to Answer the designs of the Lords of Amsterdam that the States General should enter into a deliberation of what measures they should take in case an accommodation should not be concluded betwixt your Majesty and Spain before the end of this Month. We have sought after all expedients that might supply the defects of a Memorial and they laid before me that I should yield that the Deputies of the States General should ing●ge in a conference with me In the which a Friend of Amsterdam one of the Holland Deputies should demand of me my Thoughts concerning what should happen in case the Spaniards should not accept some of your Majesties propositions before the end of Jan. from whence he might find matter enough for the deliberation of the States General to me I agreed and the Lords of Amsterdam went immediately to desire two of the Deputies of the States General that were most inclined to the interest of the P. of O. that they would accept of a Deputation and it was to be demanded from me To give an express Answer to the Complaints relating to the Ship called the Reagle these were presently ready and glad that they saw the Lords of Amsterdam willing to make Complaints against France but others seeing further then they saw that the design of the Lords of Amsterdam was nothing else but to get a Conference with me This being their suspicion was the cause that this expedient took no effect but the necessity in which the States General found themselves to return me a Complement upon my giving them notice of the birth of the D. of Anjou did give us an opportunity of another expedient which by the vigilance of the Lords of Amsterdam was not ess serviceable to us than the former For upon such Occasion there being no more than three Deputies appointed it fell out luckily all places having their turns to fall upon the Deputies of Holland Freesland and Groningham to come to me so that the Lords of Amsterdam having throughly informed the Lords of Frisland and Groningham and desired the aforesaid two Lords to discourse with me in the same manner that the Deputies of Amsterdam should have discoursed with me in case the Deputation of the States General had been compleated the three aforesaid Deputies came yesterday to me and gave me to understand how much the States General rejoyced in the happy Birth of the D of Anjou After which the Deputies of Freesland and Groningham began a Discourse of those Disturbances which might arise in case the Spaniards should pass by the Month of Jan. without effect The Deputy of Holland that had the Precedency declared that the Discourse that happened between us was of importance enough to be reported to the States General and in regard he could not do it except I gave it him in Writing he therefore desired that I would put it into the form of a Memorial I answered him that he was in the right if I had any thing to propose or was to request any thing in the behalf of your Majesty but that this was only as an Answer to what was said to me by those Lords that were in the same Deputation and that it was not a request of your Majesties and that it was sufficient for them that they knew it might be granted them when the States General should think it matter of Advantage to them and therefore I left it to them to examine what was most for their Conveniency and that I would give them further Satisfaction in case they desired a larger Information of your Majesties Sentiments after which the said Deputies took their leaves and about an hour after that the Deputies of Amsterdam came to Visit me and to inform me of their Endeavours and that no matters came into debate before the States General but what came by way of Memorial but that notwithstanding when a Minister had discoursed with the Deputies of the States General that the Deputies did agree amongst themselves whether the matter then Discoursed off ought to be a matter of deliberation or not and that the Deputies of Friesland and Groningham had given their words that they did agree that all the Discourse that happened in the last Conference ought to be taken into deliberation But Sir notwithstanding all these precautions the Lords of Amsterdam dare not be confident that the States General will take this Affair into deliberation for the Authority of the P. of O. and the direction of Pensianary Fagel is very great which appears plain enough for that the Lords of Amsterdam could not prevail so far with the States General as to take into deliberation the Memorials of the 5th of Novemb. and the 29 of Decemb. last which I presented to them they also declared to me that they could wish that I would present a Memorial though it were only to make publick the good Inclinations of your Majesty to the Republick alledging that the knowledge of what has been already done has had so considerable effects that it is to be hoped they will have more when it comes to be spread abroad They also insinuated to me that a Memorial might be so formed as that the Proposals might seem no otherwise intended but to the advantage of the States General As for Example That I having observed from several Discourses from the Members of this Government the apprehensions they have of the Arms of your Majesty in case the Spaniards should not come to an accommodation before the end of Jan. of which having the honour to give an account to your Majesty and that your Majesty had given me order to declare to the States General that in case they remained as they were and that they would send order to those Troops that were sent to assist the Spaniards not to Act otherwise then for the defence of the Spanish Garrisons that
then your Majesty for the quieting of the Apprehensions of the States General will promise and assure them to desist from further Attacks and turn your Arms elsewhere and that he would be contented only with quartering of Troops and raising of Contributions As to what concerns the Assurance which your Majesty expects from them that they will not begin any new Levy that is an Affair that must be discoursed by word of Mouth and not by Memorial for that would look like meddling with their Government but it will be enough to lay before them that they continue in the condition in which they are and such other Matters as may be convenient and then they will sooner think of the Cashiering of Troops than raising more The Lords of Amsterdam have extreamly pressed me to obtain this permission from your Majesty assuring me that they will not be wanting that it shall obtain its end They have also assured me there is hardly a day passes but they gain some of the Cities of Holland to their Sentiments and that they have just now obtained the like from one of the Principal and that they are using all endeavours to bring the Spaniards to an Accomodation which if they cannot obtain that then such methods should be used as was proposed for the Peace and Security of the Netherlands and that they hoped that the Provinces of Friezland and Groningham will come over to their Sentiments and therefore desired me to discourse with some of their Deputies that they may continue stedfast Sir I can assure your Majesty That the Lords of Amsterdam have been wanting in nothing on their part and that they are not wanting in their endeavours with other Cities But Sir I must not forget to say before your Majesty That some of the Members of this State have made difficulty to allow your Majesty to come with Militiary Execution upon the open Countrey of the Spainish Netherlands for that being done it will be impossible for those Provinces to maintain themselves they being deprived of subsistance and that it will tend immediately to the taking away of the Barriere In case the ways through Flanders had been secure I should not have taken the freedom to have sent this Pacquet by a Courier but because I could not have written till Tuesday by the way of Liege I thought it a matter of greater importance then to defer it till that day from giving your Majesty Account of Affairs in this Countrey for that it appears to me to be a Matter of so great a Concern that your Majesty be exactly informed thereof In case the Dispositions which I perceive in the Minds of People do not suddenly change this Affair in a few days will come to a great extremity Your Majesty well knows that in the beginning the Prince of Orange endeavoured to win those of Amsterdam to consent to the Levies but not obtaining his end he would resolve it in the Assembly of the States of Holland notwithstanding the opposition of the Lords of Amsterdam there was in the beginning but one City that declared they could not consent that a Matter of so great importance should be brought to a Resolution without a general consent The Prince of Orange flatter'd himself that he could bring that City to agree with the rest and so have concluded that Matter But the Lords of Amsterdam being animated by the goodness of your Majesty declared towards them and being strengthened by those Methods laid before them were not contented only to refuse their Levies but inveyed severely against them and have made so great an Interest in many of the Cities that several of them are come over to their Sentiments And thus your Majesty may see how this Matter continued for some time the Prince of Orange not being able to bear the Affront any longer after four days entred upon a desperate Resolution for considering that there were more Cities in Holland that gave their consent for the Levies notwithstanding the oposition of Amsterdam then those against it he took a Resolution to cause all the Cities to give their Voices and though there might be six or seven that might agree with Amsterdam in the same Sentiment yet he intended to conclude the Levies by pluralities of Voices But 't is believed his principal Design was to save his Reputation abroad by causing the said Levies to be resolved on against the consent of Amsterdam it being well known in this Countrey that Pensionary Fagell can come to what Conclusion he pleases though against the Constitution of the Republick when assisted by the power of the Prince of Orange and it is as well known that he can have no great advantage by this Resolution for that no man will venture to lend money to the Solicitors for the advancing of these Levies And this is the Sentiment of the P. of O. which he declared to the Heer van Harem whom he also told that he would come to this Resolution the next Week but though this Resolution may be of little profit to the Prince of Orange yet in other respects it may be of great advantage to him either by reason of those great Divisions that will be made in the State or by pleasing the Marquis De Grana thereby to make Spain believe that the Hollanders will send great Supplies to them and that the Amsterdamers use endeavours to prevent it Sir As for me I hope that for the same reason that makes me fear the Lords of Amsterdam will not be able to obtain any thing against the will of the Prince of Orange that the States General will not have cause to complain of your Majesty concerning the Assurance desired of them that the Prince of Orange should not be able to gain his end in raising the Levies against the will of Amsterdam and in case he pursues his Resolution it will soon appear that it will be to little purpose for that it will be easier both for one and the other side to traverse each other in their Sentiments then to cause them to take effect I must say this further to your Majesty That Monsieur Paes and others of the same Sentiment have re-assumed Courage and to●d their Friends that they had not flattered them in acquainting them with what our Majesty hath done in Flanders of Good 186 and yet less That the Lords of Amsterdam have had Resolution enough and for certain in case the Prince of Orange shall attempt any thing by violence he will meet with more oppositions than he im●gines Sir This is that which obliges me to represent to your Majesty That I cannot so easily and speedily as formerly have the honour of your Majesties Orders relating to Affairs that may accidentally happen and in case your Majesty shall think good to give me any Orders tending to your service with permission to execute the same as occasion requires they may be of great use for the supporting of those of Amsterdam to enter upon such Expedients