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A93694	An answer to one part of the Lord Protector's speech: or, A vindication of the fifth monarchy-men, in reference to an accusation of evil charged upon them in his speech to the Parliament in the Painted Chamber, the 4 of September, 1654. / Published by John Spittlehouse, to the end all men may see the strong endeavours that have been used to obstruct the kingly interest of Jehovah the Lord Christ in the world, by blowing the bellows of a persecution against those that desire he should reign over all nations of the earth, by his holy, just, and perfect laws and ordinances recorded in the sacred Scriptures to that very end and purpose.	Spittlehouse, John.	1654 (1654)	Wing S5003; Thomason E813_19; ESTC R211046	21,496	28

PRESBYTERY is as neer of kin to Prelacy as Prelacy to Popery it ought as well to be abrogated root and branch as PRELACY being both DAUGHTERS to that MOTHER OF HARLOTS Rev. 17. 5. to that MYSTERY OF INIQUITY and ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH Yea doubtlesse it may confidently be affirmed that what Church soever doth yet retain the CONSTITUTION of the Church of Rome since its APOSTACY albeit never so much refined in other particulars as relinquishing its Ordination c. which the Presbyterians c. have not done is still to be esteemed as Babylonish and Antichristian And the like may also be said in point of Regulating the Civil Laws of Commonwealths derived from the Assirian or BABYLONISH MONARCHY erected by Nimrod Gen. 10. 9 10. which though the Magistrate should refine never so much yet it is but a REFINING OF BABEL for whilst there is any thing in them that may be termed HVMANE either in Civil or Ecclesiastical Laws that may be said to be added or detracted from the Law of God comprised in the Old and New Testament they by so doing bring themselves under the Curse of God Deut. 22. 26. Gal. 3. 10. Therefore we may safely assert that by how much the present Magistrates of this Commonwealth do judge themselves to be the members of the body of Christ or that the God of Heaven and Earth is their God or expect to have God dwell in them and walk in them or they to be his people they ought to come wholy out of the BABYLONISH and ANTICHRISTIAN ESTATE whether in reference to CIVIL or SPIRITVAL GOVERNMENT yea to bee such SEPARATISTS from them as not to touch them in the least but to pluck them up ROOT and BRANCH And so wholy conform themselves to the word of God for their SOLE RVLE and direction therein which if they will yet submit unto the Ap●stle averreth that the Lord Christ hath promised to receive them into his ●ingdom● and to be a Father unto them and that they shall be his children 2 Cor. 6. 27 28. But that this will not easily be assented unto by the present Powers of the world is cleerly made out unto us by another of his own created * Whose expressions will need no Interpreter Doctors viz. Mr. John Owen in his Sermon upon Heb. 12. 27. page 25. where he saith That that which doth and shall stick upon Potentates to their ruine is not so much their own or any other interest as the Dregs of the Papal Antichristian interests thrust into their Oaths and Obligations for I shall only propound some Queries no other end in the world BVT TO KEEP THE LORD JESVS OVT OF HIS THRONE And hereupon it was saith he in his Sermon upon Ezek. 17 24 page 12. that the late King had learned a saying from his Predecessors No Bishop no King supposing his MAIN INTEREST to lye in holding up PRELACY a mere INCROACACHMENT upon the INHERITANCE OF CHRIST Christ coming to take his OWN shakes the other in peeces Again saith he those who would have been our Oppressors Were not those the Presbyterian Priests c. in Scotland but that God hath crushed the Cockatrice in the shell and filled the pit with their dead bodies which they had digged for us they also had prepared a PROCRVSTES BED a heavy yoak a Beast that had it grown to perfection would have had HORNS and HOOFS And in maintaining this they think their GREAT INTEREST TO LYE And in holding this fast are they after all their Associations broken in peeces Again in page 21. of that Sermon What was the corrupted design of many in Scotland that they might set up a SON of Was it corrupt in them then not in your selves now TABEAL in England and THEMSELVES to be GREAT VNDER HIM and that they and their Partakers might IMPOSE on the residue of the Nations especially in the things of God Their great desire that things should be thus corrupts their minds to think that it ought to be so Hence AMBITION TO RVLE and to have all under their power even in conscience is quickly mistaken for zeal for the Kingdome of Christ inthroning of Tyranny is Loyalty and all according to Covenant As if men had sworn to be good to themselves and to be true to their own interest all their dayes which surely none need to be sworn to Thus mens minds and judgements are distempered by their lusts and interests which makes them frame a way for God to proceed in And this is the reason saith he page 25. of his Sermon Heb. 12. 27. that the Lord Jesus by his MIGHTY POWER at Wherein is it altered since that time his bringing in of his VNMOVABLE KINGDOM will shake the HEAVENS and the EARTH of the NATIONS even because in their * PRESENT CONSTITVTION they are DIRECTLY FRAMED to the INTEREST OF ANTICHRIST which by notable advantage at their FIRST MOVLDING and CONTRIVED INSINVATIONS ever since hath so riveted it self into the very FVNDAMENTALS of them that no digging or Mining without an EARTHQVAKE will cast up the FOVNDATION * What cal you them foundation stones stones thereof because as is their interest so is their acting the present powers of the Nations stands in DIRECT OPPOSITION to the bringing in of the KINGDOME OF CHRIST Again Page 27. of that Sermon Are not most Potentates tyed by OATH or OTHER COMPACT to maintain either the WHOLE or some part of the OLD TOWER under the Vid. Art 35. Government Reader compare these expressions with the late transactions name of RIGHT OF HOLY CHURCH Prelats and the like And can any expect that such as these should take up the DESPISED QUARREL OF THE SAINTS against that FLOURISHING QUEEN Doubtlesse NO SUCH FRUIT WILL GROW ON THESE TREES before they are THROUGHLY SHAKEN All carnal Interests will doubtlesse be shaken with that of Babylon Many of Gods people are not weaned from the things that are seen No sooner is one CARNAL FORM SHAKEN OUT but they are ready to CLEAVE TO ANOTHER Yea to warm themselves in the FEATHERED NESTS OF UNCLEAN * Is it not so at this day BIRDS All fl●shly Dominion within doors and all Civil Dominion that opposeth without doors shall be shaken Now these things are so glued also to mens earthly possessions the talons of the birds Who are those birds of prey unless the souldier pries● and lawyer of prey having firmly seized on them that THEY also must be shaken with them Reader consider these expressions of Mr. Owens seriously and then tell me whether he had not a good ghess of what we have seen since the preaching of these Sermons come to pass I presume Mr. Tho. Goodwin and himself c. little thought then that their own words should now have been brought in testimony against them But the heart of man is deceitful above all things Now that this shaking here spoken of is not to be taken in Mr. Owen's

sense p. 14. of that Sermon where he saith It is not a destruction or total amotion of the great things of the Nations but a change translation or new molding of them that is here intimated they shall sai●h he be shuffled together * Not altogether it seems almost into their primitive confusion and come out new molded for the interest of the Lord Jesus Again all the present States of the world are cemented together by Antichristian lime c. that unless they be so shaken as to have every cranny searched and brushed they will be no quiet Note the Brush habitation for the Lord Christ and his People I thus answer 1. In that the holy Ghost speaking of the time wherein these things shall be accomplished as in Isa 65. 17. saith Behold I create new heavens and a new earth Mark and the former shall not be remembred nor come into mind And Rev. 21. 1. I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away If then they are so to pass away as not to be remembred nor come into Gods nor his peoples mindes how are they in the least to be retai●ed Is it the intent of God in that text think you onely to pull down the Titles of Kings and to set up a Title of Protector in stead thereof or to pull down Bishops and set ●ehold Mr. Owen's new heaven and new earth up a Scoteh Synod or Court of Tryers in stead thereof Is that your brush whereby the Antichristian lime is to be taken away I am sure the holy Ghost speaking of the destruction of Babylon Isai 13. 19 c. saith that it shall be as when God over threw Sodom and Gom●rrha that it shall NEVER be inhabited nor dwelt in from generation to generation c. as also that he will not make use of one stone thereof either for a Foundation-stone or a Corner-stone but to be an everlasting desolation Jer. 51. 25 26. And yet it seems he would have the whole fabrick to stand onely the ●rannies thereof to be searched the lyme onely to be brushed off The old Tower he mentioned it seems is not Babylonish no it is onely the lime or mortar wherewith it is daubed together A very Scholastical Exposition And thus have I laid down some of the Grounds and Reasons why we desire the subversion of whatsoever is of Man either in our Civils or Spirituals unless in things circumstantial as dependencies upon the Statute● Judgments and Ordinances of Jehovah the Lord Christ and that from the testimony of the holy Scripture which we take to be sufficient to perswade all that are real Christians to own embrace and put in practice and consequently that whosoever pretendeth that they are Christians and yet refuse so to do do thereby clearly declare themselves notorious hypocrites as also professed ex●mies to Jehovah the Lord Christ and that by his own attestation Luke 19. 27. Speech And perhaps would bring in the Judaical Law in stead of our known laws and setled among us Resp I had thought the Laws of God had been as well known unto those that profess themselves Gods people as any other Laws whatsoever yea above all other Laws whatsoever and especially by such an one as accounteth himself to be a father to the family of Gods people I remember it was a duty incumbent upon fathers of particular families in the Israel of God to teach the Laws Sta●utes and Judg●●●ats of Jehovah diligently unto their children and to talk of them when they sate in their houses and when they walked by the way and when they lay down and when they rose up and to binde them for signes upon their hand and as frontlets between their eyes and to write them upon the posts of their houses and on their gates Deut. 6. 6 7 8 c. I read it was also the custom of their Magistrates to instruct the people in the said Laws as in Neb. 8. 1 2 3 c. It is also said of godly David that the Laws of God were his meditation day and night and that he desired them more then gold yea then much fine gold * Then the king of Spain's gold in the Indi●s yea that they were sweeter un●● him then honey or the honey-comb And therefore I admire to hear one so seemingly-eminent to plead a greater knowledge to the Laws of Heathens and Antichristians Yea I appeal to any Rational man whatsoever whether any man would be thought to be in his wits to give those Characters to the known Laws of England as he is pleased to term them though I think they were never yet defined as David hath done to the Laws of God And if not then I desire to know whether of the two ought to be best known unto us and put i● practice by us or why the Law of Nature ought not to be the Rule and Square of natural actions which that the Judicial Law is is clearly proved from Rom. 2. 14. For when the Gentiles that knew not the Law did by nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves which sh●w the works of the Law written in their hearts their consciences also bearing them witness and their thoughts in the mean time acc●sing or excusing one another And what other Law was this he speaketh of then the Law of God Again what other Law was the old world judged by then the aforesaid law of Nature Doubtless they were not condemned and executed by the righteous Judge of all the world Gen. 11. 25. without a Law and is it to be conceived that he would judge by any other Law then his own and was that Law as to the Civil part thereof ever yet repealed by God or Christ Nay doth not the Lord Christ tell us himself that he came not to destroy the Law Matth. 5. 17 18 19. Yea so far was he from so doing as that contrariwise he affirmeth that whosoever should break the least of them and teach men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven I would gladly know then by what authority from God any that account themselves Christians do make Laws for their fellow-servants and subjects yea is it not clearly evident that by so doing they usurp the Authority and Power of Christ the alone Law-giver And if but one then not two or more Yea do they not by so doing d●thro●e and degrade the Lord Jesus of his Legislatorship and Judicature which the Father hath given unto him Joh. 5. 22. Isa● 9. 6. Dan. 7. 13 34. 1 Tim. 6. 13 14 15. Rev. 11. 15. and 17. 14. and 19. 11 16. Indeed were I at Constantinople I should not much wonder if the Great ●urk and his Mahometan Clergie should question me for what I have said in reference to the law of God but to hear a Christian Magistrate c. contaminate the laws of God and

AN ANSWER To one part of The Lord Protector 's SPEECH OR A VINDICATION OF THE Fifth Monarchy-men In reference to an Accusation of evil charged upon them in his Speech to the Parliament in the Painted Chamber the 4 of September 1654. Published by John Spittlehouse To the end all men may see the strong endeavours that have been used to obstruct the Kingly interest of Jehovah the Lord Christ in the world by blowing the bellows of a Persecution against those that desire he should reign over all the Nations of the earth by his holy just and perfect Laws and Ordinances recorded in the sacred Scriptures to that very end and purpose Luke 19. 27. But those mine enemies that would not that I should reign over them bring them hither and slay them before me Dan. 6. 5. Then said these men We shall not finde any occasion against this Daniel except we finde it against him concerning the law of his God Printed at London for Livewel Chapman at the Crown in Popes-head-alley 1654. The Epistle to the Reader INasmuch as Satan knowing his time is but short Rev. 12. 12. doth now more then ever transform himself into an Angel of light to the end he may the more cunningly and smoothly de●●●e the very elect if it were possible Matth. 24. 24. or otherwise stir up his Instruments to persecute the Man-childe in his Members who is now about to rule all nations with a rod of iron Rev. 12. 5. It therefore neerly concerneth the people of God to stand upon their guard by contending earnestly for the faith in hearing testimony to those Prophecies that tend to the exaltation of the Lord Jesus unto his Kingly office and interest in the world in these last days Upon which very account I have in the strength of JEHOVAH given this following Answer to his Charge of Evil against the Fifth Monarchy-men Knowing that the righteous in such cases ought to be as bold as lions and not to fear such persons whose power is permissive Ioh. 19. 10 11. and limited Matth. 10. 28. as is the power of Satan Iob 1. 12. and 2. 6. As also from the encouragement of the Spirit of God communicated unto us by the Apostle Paul 1 Cor. 1. 27 28 29. where he saith God hath chosen the FOOLISH things of this world to confound the WISE and God hath chosen the WEAK things of this world to confound the MIGHTY and the BASE things of this world and things which are DESPISED hath God CHOSEN yea things which ARE NOT to bring to nought things WHICH ARE that no flesh might glory in his presence Even so Amen An Answer to part of the L. Protectors Speech Speech WE may reckon among those spiritual evils an EVIL that hath more refinedness in it more colour for it and hath deceived more people of integrity then the rest have done For few have been catched with the former mistakes but such as have apostatized from their holy profession such as being corrupt in their consciences have been forsaken by God and left to such noy some Opinions But I say there are ●thers more refined many honest people whose hearts are sincere many of them belonging to God and this is the MISTAKEN NOTION of the FIFTH MONARCHY Resp Reader inasmuch as the FIFTH MONARCHY-MEN are here involved among other persons and opinions as the Levellers whose principle he saith is To make the Tenant of as liberal a fortune as the Landlord 〈◊〉 conceive it meet to speak something thereunto by way of P 〈…〉 And albeit we abominate any wicked action under the no 〈…〉 of Leveling c. yet we could tell the Accuser that there is a Leveling principle of an higher nature which it seems he had forgot viz. such a leveling as hath not onely in the notion but even in action reduced the Tenant into the condition of the Landlord and the Landlord into the condition of the Tenant the Servant into the condition of the Master and the Master into the condition of the Servant which will clearly appear by comparing the ranks estates and conditions of divers at the present with what they were before the Wars and that not in posse but in esse visible to all men 2. As to his charge of disrespect to the Authority of the Nation as to the Magistrate to the ranks and orders of men whereby England hath been known for hundreds of yeers as A Nobleman a Gentleman a Yeoman that being a good interest of the Nation and a great one surely the old Proverb is here verified viz. The Priest hath forgot that ever he was Clerk for was not the lineal race of Kingship as good and great an interest as any of the other yea far greater and yet who hath been more instrumental to raze out the Kingly line of the Stewarts in this Nation root and branch then himself as also to plant himself in their stead But this must not be counted any disrespect to Magistracie no the poor Levelers that have brought a Noble to nine-pence in stead of multiplying Nine-pence to a Crown as some have done they must now bear the blame for all such-like actions Albeit there are lyers if he himself have not said that the nation would never be at quiet whilst there was a name of a Lord in the land 3. Whereas he chargeth others with a spirit visibly acting those things foretold by Peter Jude and the Apostle Paul to Timothy sure I am that multitudes of godly people in this Nation are verily perswaded that he chargeth others with many things which might as properly be fixed to And therefore if such as put the day of Christ far from them or such as having escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord Jesus and are now again entangled in them and overcome or such as are lovers of themselves or covetous or proud or boasters or blasphemers or covenant-breakers or false accusers or fierce or despisers of those that are good or traytors or heady or high-minded or lovers of pleasures more then lovers of God or speakers of lyes in hypocrisie or turners with the d 〈…〉 vomit or with the sow that was washed to the wall●wing 〈…〉 the mire be the persons he intendeth his charge against we shall desire some would begin to look at home for the Apostle Paul doth judge persons worthy of reproof who think themselves to be guides of the blinde and a light to them that sit in darkness an instructer of the foolish a teacher of babes c. if such shall teach or reprove others and withal teach not themselves if they shall preach A man should not steal and yet they to steal themselves c. as the Saying is Thou mayst not but I may 4. Whereas he chargeth other persons with laying the ax to the root of the Ministery as Antichristian and Babylonish I desire to know how much short he himself would have proved of such a Principle had they not

declared was even at the door as aforesaid as also by slighting and contemning those holy just and perfect Laws which they then acknowledged to be from heaven as also a rule for all Rulers yea such as that whoso was not EVER VNDER THEM owned not his OBEDIENCE to God Vide Abridgm Remonstr Albans p. 6 8. Besides we have as plain texts of Scripture for the one as they could have for the other yea for Ruling and Governing Vide Dan. 7. 22 26 26. Rom. 8. 16 17. 1 Cor. 6. 2. 2. Whereas he taxeth us with an ambitious fancie of giving Laws to the world we conceive it no better then the former For the Laws are recorded already by the alone law-maker and giver Jam. 4. 12. that we desire may be put in practice viz. the Laws Statutes Judgements and Ordinances which our Lord and Master Jesus Christ hath constituted and appointed to govern his subjects by and that as well in relation to the outward as inward man Which if he HIMSELF will do as we once hoped he would have done we shall have exceeding great cause to bless God for it and shall acquiesce in our present conditions it being not for our own but the interest of Jehovah the Lord Christ whom we alone desire may be exalted but otherwise we shall yet say and testifie that it is Babylonish and Antichristian for any Magistrate and especially for such of them as profess Christianity to make or establish any other Laws for the Government of Christians then those that are contained in the sacred Scriptures of the Old and New Testament whether for State or Church they being there recorded for no other end or purpose that we know of Besides what greater dishonor can Magistrates do to Jehovah the Lord Christ whom they at least pretend to be their Creator God King Lord Saviour and Lawgiver than to sleight and reject his holy just and perfect Laws c. And to erect instead thereof the Statutes of Omri the L●ws of Heathens Antichristians or their own vain and foolish Imaginations Traditions and inventions The Lord set it home upon his heart seriously to consider hereof for seeing the Lord would not permit his then only peculiar people who doubtlesse had as much REASON or LIGHT OF NATURE as we have neither to fancie to themselves Laws either in things Civil or spiritual or to extract themselves Laws from any other people then extant Why should he or any other persons whatsoever dare to attempt the making of Laws whether Civil or Spiritual Besides in so doing is it not as much as to say in plain termes that our Predecessors and they are wiser than God And what is that lesse then Blasphemy Again what president have we in holy Writ that any of the people of God published any command of God in their own name doth not Moses present the Law-maker himself to give forth his own Law Exod. 20. 1. Jehovah spake these words saying c. And was it not the usual expression of the Prophets to say Thus saith the Lord Yea doth not Jesus Christ himself say I speak not of my self As also the Apostle Paul 1 Cor. 11. 23. That which I received of the Lord deliver I unto you And doth he not will Christians to be followers of him in such actions Again hath not he himself sworn That the Christian Religion contained in the Scriptures shall be held forth and recommended as the publick profession of these Nations vide Government Art 25. And what is that R●ligion other than to be conformable to the Laws and Ordinances of Jehovah the Lord Christ as is clearly evident from these following Scriptures viz. Deut. 6. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. and 10 12 13. Matth. 22. 35 36 37 38 39 40. Luke 10. 25 26 27 28. Jam. 2. 8 9 10 11. 1 Joh. 2. 3. and 3. 22 23 24. and 5. 2 3. And is he not then perjured if he see it not performed Besides is it not the undoubted badge of the Man of sin and Son of perdition to give forth his own Edicts in his own name and therefore is said to oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God or worshipped so that he ●its in the Temple of God shewing himself that he is God 2 Thes 2. 4. And if so what are they other than his Puples that imitate him pretending to be what they are not as too many do in these dayes of Apostacy 3 Whereas he saith we desire to determine of Liberty and Property and every thing else we answer That this charge is like the rest for we desire to determine no otherwise of any thing than the alone Law-giver hath commanded to be done and that we hope as we are his professed sons and servants we may be bold to do in the presence of God Angels and ●en for by so doing we shall act as servants not as Lords as some do both in Civils and spirituals 4 As to the reception of those holy just and perfect Laws and Ordinances of Jehovah the Lord Christ we are clearly of his opinion viz. That the wise men and self-interested men of this Commonwealth will be very a●erse thereunto Knowing that the natural man receiveth not the things of God because they are foolishnesse unto him neither can he know them c. 1 Cor. 2. 14. And therefore we shall not much wonder if the Heathen rage and the people imagine vain things if the Kings of the earth stand up and the Rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his Anointed saying Let us break their bonds asunder and cast away their cords from us KNOWING that ●e that sitteth in heaven laugheth and that the Lord hath them in derision that he will speak to them in his WRATH and vex them in his sore displeasure that he will break them with a rod of iron and dash them in peeces like a Potters vessel And in the close will in despight of them set his King upon his holy hill of Zion Psal 2. Be wise now therefore O ye Kings be instructed ye Judges of the earth c. Kisse the Son lest he be angry and ye perish from the way when his wrath is kindled yea but a little then let such as presumptu●usly oppose him look to themselves Speech Beside certainly though many of these men have good meanings as I hope in my soul they have yet it will be the wisdome of all knowing and experienced Christians to do as Jude saith when he had reckoned up those horrible * This is much like Hild brands c infernal firebrand p. 9. where they also innumerate us among Blasphemers for desiring to promote the pure and simple Laws and Ordinances of God Christ without the mixture of mens inventions in State and Church things done upon pretences and happily by some upon mistakes Of some saith he have compassion making a difference others save with fear I fear they will give opportunity too