fifty six thousand one hundred seventy two pound clear to the Kings use The Sum also which the Author of the State calls Eight Millions two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pounds accounting from Easter 73 to Lady-day 79 ought to be ten millions eight hundred sixty seven thousand one hundred twenty six pound betwixt the 23d of June 73 and Lady-day 79. He knows likewise amongst the supplies which this Examiner tells you were given by Parliament viz. Â Li. The 18 Months Tax amounting to 1238750 The Tax for building the Thirty Ships 0584978 On the fifth Part of the Excise 0200000 The Poll Act 0252900 The first Act for Disbanding the Army and other uses 0619388 In all 2896016 That the two hundred thousand pound mentioned on the 5th Part of the Excise is accounted double being part of the six hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred eighty eight pounds so grosly wilful or ignorant are the mistakes in his Calculations and one hundred fifty two thousand seven hundred fifty seven pounds part of the said six hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred eighty eight pounds is not within the foresaid sum of ten millions eight hundred sixty seven thousand one hundred twenty six pounds because so much of the said six hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred eighty eight pound was not come into the Exchequer in my time His next Head is about secret Service where he talks of a compound of mistakes but shews not one but in himself for to make proof of what he says he affirms that my Pension of eight thousand pound per Ann as Lord Treasurer was never included in secret Service whereas it was never paid otherwise until Michaelmas 1676. and by a Warrant dated the 12th of July 1676. which I procured to expresse the particular Service nor in all my Lord Southampton and Lord Clifford's time and I think the Lords Commissioners was it ever otherwise than by secret Service so that to use his own phrase in that Paragraph it will be seen to whom this instance is most unlucky Indeed he semes offended that the Exchequer does not know all the uses to which Money is applyed under the Head of Secret Service which is an Imposition that the Examiner who ever he be would be loth to have put upon himself in his own Expences how regular soever those may be For the sum of Secret Service delivered in Parliament I do not know when he means that delivery unless it were at the time of my Impeachment when by the Articles of that impeachment I was charg'd with having laid out the sum of two hundred thirty one thousand six hundred and two pound for Secret Service in two years which must then be meant from Christmas 76. to the time of my said Charge which was the 23d of December 78. But as that would have appeared to have been a very wrong Computation which was then given to the House of Commons so it will appear by Sir Robert Howard's Certificate that the Examiner is as much mistaken in his Computation of two hundred fifty two thousand four hundred sixty seven pound for Secret Service in the space of two years and three months there being no such sum in that time but I find two hundred fifty two thousand four hundred sixty seven pounds to be the just sum accounted under the Head of Secret Service in three compleat years viz. from Lady-day 76. to Lady-day 79. which amounts but to eighty four thousand one hundred fifty five pound thirteen shillings and four pence a year and is a sum I should not have thought a man expressing so much Service and Duty to his Majesty would have wondered at though it had all been laid out in the space of three years without giving him or any body else an account of it but had there been an opportunity for that account I had shewed and am at all times ready to shew and prove with his Majesties leave that fifty seven thousand seven hundred sixty three pounds at least of that sum hath been disburst for publick uses and then the remainder of this pretended grievance has been at most but one hundred ninety four thousand seven hundred and four pound in three whole years which has been but at the rate of sixty four thousand nine hundred and one pound six shillings and eight pence a year After all these Computations and Proofs pretended to by the Examiner he confesses Page the 13th That no demonstrative Argument is to be framed from the Particulars he has mentioned but will therefore betake him to Generals for the sure Proof of all which I believe is the first time of such an Undertaking and shews sufficiently how falsly this Examiner pretends to the knowledge of Exchequer Accounts When he comes to this plain Account of Generals he says he has a Copy of a Paper dated the 10th of June 73. under Sir Philip Floyd 's hand which would not pass for a Proof in this Case if it were true but that I might know the truth of it I writ to Sir Philip Floyd and had this following answer from him by which it appears both how much Sir Philip has been abused by the said printed Paper and how different a State was made up by Sir Robert Howard my then Secretary the 21st of June 73 which was but two days after my having the Staff A Copy of Sir Philip Floyds Letter to the Earl of Danby the 18th of March 1679 80. My Lord I Have received the Honour of your Lordships Letter of the 15th Instant and in answer to it I do hereby assure your Lordship that I have at no time given any State of the Revenue to any Person but to such as from time to time have been my Superiours in the Treasury and as for this thing in particular which is printed in a Phamphlet under the Title of An Examination of the Impartial State of the Case of the Earl of Danby and called a Copy of the Condition of the Revenue as it was left by the late Lord Treasurer Clifford and said to be procured under my hand I do declare to your Lordship that my name is abused in it and to convince your Lordship that such a Copy could never come from me give me leave to say that I have Examined such Papers as I have by me concerning the Revenue when your Lordship received the Staff and I find it to be false almost in every particular As for Instance I find the Customs were left charg'd with 245905 l. 19 s. 3 d. besides the weekly charge for Tangier Vpon the Excise I find 201148 l. 13 s. 8 d. Vpon the Hearth-Money 22318 l. 11 s. 0 d. The Law-Bill left quite useless and which is far different from the Examiners printed State And then for the three last quarters of the Tax they were not left clear neither as the Examiner is pleased to say For the first quarter of those three I find to have
been charg'd with 21163 l. 6 s. 8 d. before your Lordships time and of the whole of those three quarters there came only five hundred sixty five thousand odd hundred pounds into the Exchequer I could enlarge upon the errors and falshood of this Pamphlet concerning the Revenue in many other particulars but having as I humbly conceive fully answered your Lordships Commands in assuring you and shewing to your Lordship that no such Copy as the Examiner hath Printed could come from me I will give your Lordship no further trouble with any remarks of my own upon it but take leave only to remember your Lordship of a Paper which I have seen in your Lordships hands of better Authority than any thing that I can say Which is a State of the Revenue presented to your Lordship by Sir Robert Howard the 21st of June 1673. which was two days after you entered upon your Office wherein having stated the Income of the Ordinary Revenue and the Expences for that year by way of Debtor and Creditor he finds the Expence would exceed the Income by the Sum of 1163400 l. and there is no doubt but Sir Robert Howard who was furnish'd with all the means of making a true Calculation did take care to do so And that in my humble opinion my Lord will be of considerable use to your Lordship to shew the mistakes of this Examiner I beg your Lordships pardon for this long trouble and am My Lord Your Lordships most obedient and most Humble Servant Philloyd Having perused the said State of the Revenue mentioned in Sir Philip Floyd's Letter which was given me by Sir Robert Howard the 21st of June 73. and remains in my Custody I find it to agree exactly with Sir Philip's Letter both in the Calculation of the expence of the Year 1673. to exceed the Income of that year by the Sum of one million one hundred sixty three thousand four hundred pound and in the Sums which were left Charg'd upon the three great Branches of the Revenue by my Lord Clifford nor could any Copy of the said printed Paper come from his Lordship because there is not one half of it true Besides this Examiner is not only ignorant of things in the Treasury but he does not know the Officers of it at that time for he mentions a Letter from Mr. Mounteney dated the 10th of November 73 and says it was directed to Sir Robert Howard then Secretary to the Treasury whereas Mr. Bartie was then my Secretary and not Sir Robert Howard The Examiner closes his report concerning the Treasury Pages 14 and 15 wherein he pretends to shew First That the Revenue was left charged with less than three hundred thousand pound advance Money excepted at the time of my Lord Cliffords leaving his Place Secondly that there was nine hundred forty two thousand five hundred pound then left in Money And Thirdly that the said Revenue was computed to be left charged with one million four hundred eighty five thousand five hundred and seventy pound sixteen shillings and four pence at lady-Lady-Day 1672. I suppose he means 1679. when I was removed from the Treasury Although I could no more know he means that time by the Computations he has made than I could by that year of our Lord which he has Printed The first and second of these are proved from that Copy before mentioned pretended to be from Sir Phillip Floyd to which Sir Philip's answer has been seen and consequently the truth of his sure proof But that it may be truly known how the three great Branches alone were left charg'd by my Lord Clifford's own Computation it is therein set down that  li. s. d. The Customs were then charg'd with 245905 19 03 The Excise 201148 13 08 The Hearth-Money 022318 11 00 In all 469373 03 11 besides that the smaller Branches were left useless for the said year And in the same Computation which I have in my Custody it is estimated that for the said year of 1673 there could not be expected for the service of that year from the aforesaid three great Branches any more than seven hundred forty six thousand six hundred twenty nine pounds and the Establishment of the constant yearly expence besides the great Sums owing at that time to the Fleet and Army then in being for the said year amounted to above one million three hundred thousand pound per ann And here I must have leave to observe that had it not been for that Chargeable War against the Dutch it must have been strange that any considerable Charge should have remained on the Revenue in the beginning of the year 73. which was so soon after a total Post-poning of the Kings Debts and when the Credit was so broken that through the whole year of 72 I believe there was not twenty thousand pound borrowed on the Credit of the Revenue From the same Copy of what he calls Sir Philip Floyd's Paper and his sure proof of all is made his next Calculation that there was nine hundred forty two thousand five hundred pound left in Money viz.  li. By the last 3 Quarters of the Tax 600000 From the Advance of the Excise 150000 From the French Money 112500 Upon the 3 Quarters of the Subsidy 080000 In all 942500 As to the first of these sums as I have said already the said last three Quarters brought in clear to his Majesties use but about five hundred sixty five thousand four hundred ninety eight pound which is about the sum of one hundred eighty eight thousand four hundred ninety nine pound for each Quarter one with another and the first of those Quarters was charg'd with twenty one thousand one hundred sixty three pounds and was not payable till the third of March following which was full three Quarters of a year wanting but sixteen days before I could expect the first Quarter which would then be clear but one hundred sixty seven thousand three hundred thirty six pound and yet this Examiner speaks with confidence the whole six hundred thousand pound to be left in Money The three last Sums viz. the Advance the French money and Subsidy amounting to three hundred forty two thousand five hundred pound he says will be ready in October and November for payment of the Fleet and Tards Whereas the greatest part of Advance Money goes always in Repayment of the former Advances in Case of new Farmers and is always continued by old Farmers but no new Money advanced unless there be an increase of Advance-money as at that time was made of about thirty thousand pound which Sum could only be accounted applicable to the present service For the French Money I do not know what he means unless it be a Sum of eighty five thousand pound which I find placed to the Treasurer of the Navy's Account betwixt June 73 and December 74. And for the eighty thousand pound upon the three quarters of the Subsidy it is a Sum in the Clouds
this Examiner endeavours to lay against me is about the Poll Bill and that because some of the East-land Merchants were not paid for some Goods which were contracted for by the Comissioners of the Navy beyond the Sum that Act amounted to It is in this as in most of the Particulars throughout his Book both the Examiners misfortune and mine that he knows so little of the matters he meddles with for if he had known better he would have given both me and himself far less trouble For as an Exchequer man he must have known that the whole Bill brought in but two hundred fifty six thousand two hundred twenty three pound two shillings and four pence to the Kings use of which he Charges me with the receipt but of two hundred fifty two thousand nine hundred pound in my time and it was all Issued according to the Direction of the said Act to the Navy Ordnance and Forces which himself in the last foregoing Page has said could not be otherwise so that he might have answered himself why no care could be taken by me to reserve mony for them out of that Act and before my going out I had procured the Kings Warrant for making them Assignments upon the Revenue for their remaining Debt but was removed before the said Assignment could be perfected and had the Examiner either been privy to the proceedings of the House of Commons or that he would but have perused the Act it self he would have known that the Parliament gave Credit by that Act for three hundred thousand pound in Money and an indefinite Credit for Goods and Stores beyond the said three hundred thousand pound so as had the Act held out but to the Money-Credit given by it the East-land Merchants had been long since paid the greatest part of their Debt and therefore the Reader will see how unjustly I deserve the Reflection made upon me in that particular In the same Page he does against his will acknowledge the Improvements of the Kings Revenues in my time only he has no mind to admit me any share in the doing it which as I have said before I am contented with the Kings Service having been performed and For the Case of Mr. Bret c. it has been so lately Re-examined that it has sufficiently justified it self and I do further aver that his Majesty did by that Contract with Mr. Dashwood and Partners get neer fifty thousand pound a year increase to his Revenue of Excise more than ever any did offer by a certain Farm or than ever was made before of that Branch of the Revenue For the Improvements in Ireland he pretends to know little of them because he fears it might be to my advantage for otherwise he seems through his whole Book to pretend to such a general knowledge as could be ignorant of nothing in this World In the 9th Page he tells you most truly that you are not always to appeal to the Weekly Certificates for proofs In which I agree with him for I have had out of the Exchequer some of those Certificates which have not been true and that to the mistake of ten or twelve thousand pound in one Week but in the same Page he takes great pains to shew that I could not know what interest I paid though I might know what I agreed for which is very ridiculous for there was no allowance made for interest of Mony but upon an account of the particular sums lent the times of lending and days of Repayment stated and adjusted by one of the Kings Auditors upon Oath examined by the Chancellour of the Exchequer allowed and sign'd by the Lord Treasurer and Chancellour of the Exchequer and consequently what Interest was paid must needs be known both to my self the Chancellour of the Exchequer and the Auditor before whom the said Account is stated and whereas the Examiner asserts that nothing will be found in the Weekly Certificates of the payment of any such Interest at all it is so much the contrary that in many of the Weekly Certificates it will appear that such Interest is therein accounted and I dare be confident there will not appear above eight per Cent. unless it be for some inconsiderable Sum or Time In the next Paragraph Pages 9 and 10 he comes to what he calls the Foundation of all his Work and says he will furnish the Author of my Case with a Computation more particular than perhaps he desires and will pull off the Vail which if he had done he would have Corrected the Author of that Case by setting down a true Computation as I would have done myself if the said Author had consulted me before his Book had been Printed But there are divers things I would have altered in that Book had I been the Author of it although I know not one matter of Fact that is untrue in the whole Book except the said Computation which was to my disadvantage nor has this Examiner made appear that there is and if I had been so friendless as he supposes me that no body would have writ that Book for me I would at least have been my own Friend so much as to have set down the Sums in it to my own advantage where they had been true and so ought this Examiner to have done if he had been honest He laies hold of a mistake of the Author of that State for I cannot call it an untruth because it is a Sum less than the true one and to the prejudice of him whose Case he Designs truly to represent It is a Computation the Author of the State makes by a Certificate of the Pells from Easter 73 to March 79 amounting to eight Millions two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pounds besides Interest to the Goldsmiths and other particulars which makes it very uncertain and besides that it commences from a time three Months before my entrance to the Treasury and is liable to the Examiner's Cavil unless by his knowledge he would either have rectified it or his Printer's mistake who I rather believe has told the untruth on my side for he has made it Eight millions sixty two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pounds which makes fourteen Millions two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pounds But I suppose he means the first Sum of eight Millions c. That he may the better disguise what he there indeavours to have believed which is that the Revenue in five years and three quarters viz. From Midsommer 73 to Lady-Day 79 amounted to the above Sum of eight Millions two hundred seventy six thousand seven hundred sixty seven pound whereas he cannot possibly be so ignorant as not to know that what has arisen from the Revenue alone in that time has not been near that Sum and by Sir Robert Howard's State thereof for the year 75 which is hereunto annexed he tells you it amounted that year but to six hundred
for any thing I know of it having been all expended before my time or if any thing did come in afterwards of that Tax it must be some inconsiderable Arrears Thus has his Sure proof made out in Generals what he confesses he could not Demonstrate by Particulars And I must further observe that although the last three quarters of the eighteen Months Tax were not assigned by my Lord Clifford yet much more than that Sum was then become due to the Fleet and Army then in being And it is well known and was owned in the House of Commons by the then Speaker that within the space of fifteen Months from the time of my entrance to the Treasury I had paid above one Million five hundred thousand pound to the Navy and Army alone which was three Months before the last of the eighteen Months Tax was payable into the Exchequer besides the inconsiderableness of the Sum then come in by that Tax and of the thirty thousand pound Increase of Advance upon the Excise and of the eighty five thousand pound if that be it he means by French-money to so great a disbursement as was made to the Navy and Army only in the said space of 15 months For his third and last general proof viz. What Charge was left upon the Revenue at lady-Lady-Day 1679. he says Page the 15th That to be as clear in this as he was in the other he has obtained likewise a Copy of the then State of the Revenue as it was presented to the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury And which he says is as followeth  li. s. d. Remains unpaid of Tallies charg'd on the Customes 435106 01 00 Of Tallies charg'd on the Excise 550464 15 04 To repay the Advance 250000 00 00 The charge on the Hearth-Duty by Tallies and the Advance Money 250000 00 00 Total 1485570 16 04 I have indeed been informed that a State of the Revenue was presented to the Lords Commissioners about that time but I know nothing of it nor was any thing of that kind ever required at my hands but if any body have given them such an one as is printed by the Examiner it has been a very malicious and willful mistake to charge the Revenue to be under such a Debt because there were such Tallies upon it at the time of my leaving the Treasury unless he would at the same time have shewed the uses of those Tallies As first how much of them was for Service forwards and beyond Lady-Day 1679. Secondly what was to be reckoned in Re-payment of some of the said Tallies which is to a very considerable Sum And Thirdly how much the Advance-money alone on the Excise and Hearth Duty amounted to which is not to be reckoned as Anticipation but as Security for the Rent of those great Branches of the Revenue and which must be always done if his Majesty were in the most plentiful Condition of his Exchequer And it may be observed that the Examiner himself does not Charge the one hundred and fifty thousand pounds advance on the Excise as any part of the three hundred thousand pounds which he says was the Charge left by my Lord Clifford for he tells you the whole Charge upon the Excise was then but one hundred and ten thousand pound The said Advances c. therefore being deducted there will be taken from the Examiner's Charge of 1485570 l. these sums following viz.  li. For the Advance on the Excise 270000 For Advance on the Hearth-Duty 150000 To be discharg'd by Orders to the Commissioners of Excise on the first Act for disbanding the Army c. 101000 More by Tallies on the Surplus of the Excise for 30000 l. and 99000 l. being no charge upon the Rent unless the Surplus fail which is not likely 129000 More by Tallies which were to pay the Forces from Lady-day 79. forwards to the first of July which was 97 days beyond my time viz. by 29000 l. or thereabouts on the Excise and about 30588 l. on the Customs 059588 More by Tallies on the Customs made use of to carry on the Service of the Navy and Ordnance beyond the said Lady-day 1679. 035000 More by Tallies struck for Pentions upon the two last Quarters of the Excise viz. Christmas 78. and Lady-day 79. for payment of which Money was left in the hands of the Commissioners of Excise about 033000 More by Tallies upon the Customs restored for Tyn which was deposited in Mr. Kent's hands 015000 More by Tallies on the Customs accounted by the Examiner to be unpaid to Mr. Montague which were paid in my time 002342 Total 794930 And then the Charge which ought truly to be said remaining upon the three great Branches as an anticipation of the Revenue at Lady-day 1679 stands thus upon each Branch as near as I am able to compute viz.  li. s. d. By Tallies on the Customs 352176 0 0 By Tallies on the Excise 238464 0 0 By Tallies on the Hearth-Duty 100000 0 0 Total 690640 0 0 The said three Branches of the Revenue were left charg'd as hath been already said by the Lord Clifford as follows  li. s. d. The Customs 245905 0 0 The Excise 201148 0 0 The Hearth-Duty 022318 0 0 Total 469371 0 0 So as the Charge upon the Customs is increas'd in 5 years and 3 quarters viz. from Midsommer 73 to Lady-day 79 by the sum of 106271 0 0 And upon the Excise in the said time 037316 0 0 And upon the Hearth-Duty in the said time 077682 0 0 In all 221269 0 0 As by this it appears that the Anticipations upon the Revenue in five years and three quarters are increased but 221269 l. so I must observe that there was 140000 l. paid to the Goldsmiths for two years Interest of their Debt by virtue of a Grant under the Great Seal dated the 23d of July 1674 and 178473 l. more to them and others by several Grants of Perpetual Interest betwixt Christmas 1676 and Lady-day 1679 which together amounts to the sum of 318473 l. and is truly a payment of so much of the Kings Debt although it has not been called an Anticipation of the Revenue since the stop of the Exchequer The said 318473 l. having therefore discharged so much of the Kings Debt in my time although what are called the present Anticipations be increased by the sum of 221269 l. yet the Kings Debt is really less than it was at my entrance to the Treasury the 19th of June 73. by the sum of 97204 l. Notwithstanding that no Aid was given by Parliament in the foresaid time of five years and three quarters but what was appropriated to particular uses by the Parliament and notwithstanding the Charge of the War with Algiers and the Rebellion in Virginia which were both great stops to Trade and very great Expences to his Majesty The Examiner indeed undervalues those Expences as he does every thing to which he can give no better answers than he has