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A75749 A remonstrance, against presbitery. Exhibited by divers of the nobilitie, gentrie, ministers and inhabitants of the county palatine. of Chester with the motives of that remonstrance. Together with a short survey of the Presbyterian discipline. Shewing the inconveniences of it; and the inconsistency thereof with the constitution of this state, being in its principles destructive to the laws and liberties of the people. With a briefe review of the institution, succession, iurisdiction of the ancient and venerable order of bishops. Found to bee instituted by the Apostles, continued ever since, grounded on the lawes of God, and most agreeable to the law of the land. / By Sir Thomas Aston baronet. Aston, Thomas, Sir, 1600-1645. 1641 (1641) Wing A4078; Thomason E163_1; Thomason E163_2; ESTC R212696 75,691 128

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against_o the_o nation_n that_o will_v not_o serve_v the_o king_n of_o babylon_n upon_o which_o place_n say_v calvin_n 27._o calvin_n videmus_fw-la quantâ_fw-la obedientiâ_fw-la dom●nus_fw-la tetrum_fw-la illum_fw-la
let_v we_o examine_v this_o new_a find_v discipline_n how_o consistent_a with_o a_o protestant_a monarchy_n lest_o by_o admit_v it_o ex_fw-la improviso_fw-la we_o may_v shoulder_v regem_fw-la ex_fw-la solio_fw-la &_o religionem_fw-la ex_fw-la solo_fw-la a_o king_n out_o of_o his_o throne_n and_o religion_n out_o of_o the_o land_n it_o be_v a_o fair_a species_n of_o piety_n to_o cry_v out_o for_o reformation_n and_o too_o many_o i_o fear_v for_o this_o shadow_n be_v ready_a to_o let_v go_v the_o substance_n never_o be_v god_n church_n so_o pure_a but_o she_o have_v her_o spot_n it_o will_v be_v perfect_a charity_n to_o wipe_v they_o out_o but_o it_o argue_v none_o to_o make_v they_o great_a in_o stead_n of_o reform_v some_o so_o deface_v deform_v she_o that_o one_o will_v scarce_o think_v there_o be_v christian_n in_o it_o when_o for_o the_o most_o part_n the_o great_a slanderer_n prove_v the_o great_a hypocrite_n if_o the_o intention_n be_v unity_n the_o way_n to_o preserve_v it_o 4._o 1_o epphe_n 4._o be_v by_o meekness_n of_o spirit_n in_o the_o band_n of_o peace_n but_o those_o that_o expect_v any_o from_o some_o of_o these_o disciplinarian_o delude_v themselves_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v their_o own_o writing_n however_o we_o may_v hope_v reformation_n may_v qualify_v they_o we_o shall_v find_v they_o have_v no_o such_o design_n some_o tell_v we_o plain_o the_o episcopal_a government_n must_v not_o be_v moderate_v nor_o reserve_v 185._o answ_n to_o lond._n petition_n fol._n 33._o if_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v not_o remove_v our_o desolation_n be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o astonishment_n of_o all_o nat●●ns_n zion_n plea._n fol_z 5._o 160._o christ_n on_o his_o throne_n fol_z 47._o jer._n 4.11.12_o zion_n plea._n 196._o zion_n plea._n 185._o but_o present_o and_o whole_o take_v away_o the_o bishop_n must_v be_v utter_o extirpate_v no_o less_o than_o the_o roman_n root_v out_o the_o very_a name_n of_o tarquin_n for_o the_o tyranny_n they_o have_v exercise_v a_o wind_n to_o fan_n or_o cleanse_v will_v not_o serve_v the_o turn_n but_o it_o must_v be_v a_o full_a mighty_a wind_n to_o root_v up_o and_o carry_v away_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o their_o be_v it_o be_v not_o lop_n nor_o prune_v nor_o shave_v nor_o pare_a the_o nail_n of_o this_o evil_a that_o will_v serve_v turn_n unless_o you_o pluck_v up_o these_o stump_n of_o dagon_n by_o the_o very_a root_n their_o nail_n will_v grow_v rank_a than_o ever_o they_o do_v except_o this_o strange_a fire_n be_v remove_v the_o lord_n must_v make_v the_o consume_a fire_n of_o his_o wrath_n break_v out_o upon_o we_o if_o it_o live_v 187._o ●_o 187._o the_o commonwealth_n must_v die_v nay_o some_o of_o they_o go_v so_o far_o as_o to_o profess_v the_o church-ministerie_n and_o worship_n in_o england_n be_v all_o antichristian_a 86._o antichristian_a 8._o proposition_n print_v by_o a_o unknown_a author_n protest_v against_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o a_o antichristian_a tyranny_n lord_z bishop_n no_o bishop_n 86._o from_o which_o all_o god_n people_n be_v in_o duty_n and_o conscience_n bind_v to_o separate_v themselves_o by_o these_o obloquy_n seek_v as_o they_o confess_v to_o stir_v up_o a_o holy_a hatred_n of_o the_o prelate_n reader_n prelate_n zion_n plea._n 196._o &_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n even_o to_o dash_v their_o brain_n against_o the_o stone_n by_o such_o clamour_n cherish_v in_o the_o vulgar_a a_o discontent_a humour_n which_o be_v the_o common_a source_n of_o schism_n and_o heresy_n thereby_o the_o better_a to_o broach_v their_o new_a invent_a discipline_n build_v upon_o no_o other_o basis_n but_o the_o people_n dislike_n of_o popery_n as_o if_o the_o only_a rule_n to_o draw_v out_o the_o line_n of_o our_o religion_n by_o be_v to_o take_v the_o direct_a opposite_a in_o all_o thing_n to_o that_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 23._o rome_n that_o religion_n most_o pure_a which_o have_v least_o conformity_n with_o rome_n christ_n on_o his_o throne_n 23._o when_o we_o know_v that_o such_o as_o travel_v absolute_o east_n and_o west_n from_o one_o another_o if_o they_o live_v to_o it_o shall_v meet_v in_o the_o same_o line_n they_o part_v whereas_o parallel_n continue_v to_o any_o extent_n do_v never_o interfare_v the_o first_o quarrel_n of_o the_o great_a breach_n in_o the_o church_n have_v for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v in_o point_n of_o discipline_n and_o for_o all_o the_o noise_n some_o of_o these_o man_n make_v of_o dissension_n &_o enmity_n in_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v but_o shadow_n we_o shall_v find_v that_o in_o the_o most_o essential_a part_n of_o discipline_n which_o concern_v the_o sway_n of_o church_n and_o state_n the_o subjection_n of_o prince_n and_o people_n to_o the_o tyranny_n of_o their_o discipline_n they_o do_v not_o only_o shake_v hand_n again_o with_o popery_n but_o with_o the_o strict_a of_o they_o the_o jesuit_n clear_o sever_v themselves_o from_o the_o tenet_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n 142._o jesuit_n declarat_fw-la motuum_fw-la cap._n 20._o quodlibet_n p._n 142._o both_o side_n lay_v this_o for_o a_o fundamental_a both_o agree_v for_o the_o utter_a abrogation_n of_o all_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n contrary_a to_o the_o 36._o article_n of_o our_o religion_n the_o church_n so_o subdue_v see_v how_o they_o sway_v the_o civil_a state_n wherein_o it_o will_v be_v observe_v whether_o the_o lukewarm_a protestant_n as_o they_o call_v we_o or_o such_o zealous_a separatist_n be_v like_a to_o give_v fire_n to_o that_o popish_a powder_n which_o will_v blow_v up_o in_o fumum_fw-la all_o kingly_a supremacy_n or_o magisterial_a superiority_n over_o the_o independent_a hierarchy_n god_n say_v thou_o shall_v make_v he_o king_n who_o i_o shall_v choose_v and_o this_o rule_n we_o admit_v for_o law_n some_o that_o pretend_v to_o be_v presbyterian_n tell_v we_o 19_o we_o gilby_n lib._n de_fw-fr obedientia_fw-la pag._n 25._o &_o 105._o populo_fw-la jus_o est_fw-la ut_fw-la imperium_fw-la cvi_fw-la velit_fw-la deferat_fw-la buchan_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la regni_fw-la pag._n 61._o in_o regnis_fw-la hominum_fw-la potestas_fw-la regis_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la populo_fw-la quia_fw-la populus_fw-la facit_fw-la regem_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr council_n l●b_fw-la 2._o cap._n 19_o king_n prince_n and_o governor_n have_v their_o authority_n of_o the_o people_n and_o upon_o occasion_n they_o may_v take_v it_o away_o again_o as_o man_n may_v revoke_v their_o proxy_n and_o letter_n of_o attorney_n the_o jesuit_n come_v not_o much_o short_a of_o this_o for_o say_v they_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o man_n the_o power_n of_o the_o king_n be_v from_o the_o people_n because_o the_o people_n make_v the_o king_n to_o a_o bad_a prince_n god_n have_v say_v i_o will_v rend_v the_o kingdom_n from_o thou_o and_o every_o true_a protestant_n expect_v the_o performance_n not_o take_v the_o staff_n out_o of_o god_n hand_n who_o say_v 12.19_o say_v deuteron_fw-gr 32.35_o romans_z 12.19_o to_o i_o belong_v vengeance_n and_o i_o will_v repay_v one_o of_o these_o say_v 145._o goodman_n pag._n 144_o 145._o evil_a prince_n ought_v to_o be_v depose_v and_o inferior_a magistrate_n ought_v chief_o to_o do_v it_o with_o this_o bellarmine_n agree_v dominio_fw-la agree_v bellarmin_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr pont._n cap._n 7._o talis_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la potest_fw-la imò_fw-la debet_fw-la privari_fw-la svo_fw-la dominio_fw-la such_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o may_v nay_o aught_o to_o be_v deprive_v and_o if_o this_o be_v not_o do_v in_o old_a time_n it_o be_v for_o want_v of_o strength_n to_o do_v it_o solomon_n say_v who_o shall_v say_v unto_o a_o king_n what_o do_v thou_o goodman_n tell_v we_o 36._o obedience_n pag_n 111._o bancroft_n 36._o judge_n ought_v to_o summon_v prince_n before_o they_o for_o their_o crime_n and_o to_o proceed_v against_o they_o as_o all_o other_o offender_n here_o i_o find_v they_o have_v outgo_v the_o jesuit_n david_n think_v no_o man_n can_v stretch_v forth_o his_o hand_n against_o the_o lord_n anoint_a and_o be_v guiltless_a yet_o this_o disciplinarian_a say_v 185._o goodman_n pag._n 185._o when_o magistrate_n cease_v to_o do_v their_o duty_n god_n give_v the_o sword_n into_o the_o people_n hand_n nay_o 110._o obedience_n pag._n 110._o a_o private_a man_n have_v some_o special_a inward_a motion_n may_v kill_v a_o tyrant_n in_o this_o the_o jesuit_n be_v too_o slow_a pace_v too_o he_o think_v fit_a to_o give_v he_o a_o public_a trial_n first_o sa._n first_o tyrannicè_fw-la gubernans_fw-la justè_fw-la acquisito_fw-la domino_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la spoliari_fw-la sine_fw-la publico_fw-la judicio_fw-la emanuel_n sa._n marry_o sentence_n give_v than_o any_o man_n may_v be_v the_o executioner_n suarez_n be_v more_o moderate_a 4._o moderate_a si_fw-mi papa_n regem_fw-la deponit_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la tantum_fw-la poterit_fw-la expelli_fw-la vel_fw-la interfici_fw-la quibus_fw-la ipse_fw-la id_fw-la commiserit_fw-la suarez_n lib_n 6._o cont_n jacob_n regem_fw-la cap._n 4._o