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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15978	[A notable discourse, plainelye and truely discussing, who are the right ministers of the Catholike Church written against Calvin and his disciples, ... with an offer made by a Catholike to be a learned Protestant ... .]; Marques de la vraye église catholique. English	Albin de Valsergues, Jean d', d. 1566.; Rishton, Edward, 1550-1586, attributed name. aut; Allen, William, 1532-1594.	1575 (1575)	STC 274; ESTC S112318	85,201	271

He doeth not regarde whether they doo acquite their charge or no for the obedience of the inferiours is not limitted by the duty of the superiours All power doth come of God sayth the Apostle and he that resisteth that power doth resiste the ordinance of God and they that doo with say it acquire for them selues dānation for euer He doth make no distinction of persons whether it be a Magistrate Ecclesiastical or temporal whether it be a king or a Pope a Bishop or a Lorde he doth talke generally of al powers that are established by God to make vs liue in peace tranquilitie God had not chosen of his good wil Caesar the Emperour of Rome to be king of Ierusalē as he did choose Saul Dauid Salomon and the rest for of his owne ambition and vnsaciable cupiditie he had vsurped the kingdome apperteyning to the house of Dauid yet our Sauiour did commaund that they should pay him tribute Math. 22. The whiche commaundement he him selfe did fulfyl to teache others obedience God did like wise permit that the wicked king Nabuchodonozor shuld destroy the kingdome of Hierusalem to punishe the wickednes of those that dwelt in it And although he had inuaded the kingdome of Iuda to the which he had no title nor right yet doth god protest that he gaue it him and he wylleth and doth commaund that they should obey him euen as yf he were the best prince of the world Beholde sayth God by the Prophet Ieremie Cap. 27. you shal tel your Lordes that I make the earth the men and the beastes that walke on the face of the earth through my great strength and mightie arme and I haue geuen it to whom it pleaseth me And so nowe I haue geuen al these Lands and countreys to Nabuchodonozor my seruant king of Babylon Besides this I haue geuen him the beastes and the feelds to serue him his sonne and his sons son vntill the time of his earth come also of him many people and great kinges shal com and shal ordein that the kingdome or the people that shall not serue Nabuchodonozor kinge of Babilon I will visite that people saith the lord with the sworde pestilēce and hunger vntill that I consume them in his handes etc. But if you my masters the newe reformers of the Gospell had ben in those dayes what would haue bridled your burning zeale Coulde ye not with a litle better cause report of Nabuchodonozor that that ye report of the Pope for who is that Nabuchodonozor that wee shoulde submit our selues vnto him He is not a king he is not a Tiraunt he is not an Emperoure but a Robber a Cutthrote more cruell then any kinde of wilde beaste Is it not by him that the Prophetes haue represented the spoyler of nations for God when he woulde cause Esaye to talke of the fall of Lucifer he doeth discrye it vnder the person of Nabuchodonozor then howe will you haue vs to submitte our selues to be subiect vnto him whom God doeth liken not onelye to a deuill but to the Captayne of all the deuilles of hell Manye causes doo perswade vs not to obey him Firste his wicked and abhominable life Secondlye our religion for we beleeue in God that created heauen and earth but as for him he is more then a woorshipper of Idoles for he is one that called him selfe a god Thirdelye he is not of the line of Dauid by whom God hadde promised to establishe his Kingedome for he was a straunger and suche a one as got into the kingdome by force making him selfe a king not by righteous election but by violent compulsion so that considering all these things ye might well according to your zeale haue found fault with his raigne but god would haue stopped your mouthes saying as I haue written aboue I haue created al things and I giue them to whom it pleaseth me Or as he saith in Iob It is I that cause Hypocrites to reigne to punish the sinnes of the people Or as he sayth in the. 4. of Daniel I haue the preheminence ouer the kingdomes of men and I geue thē to whom it pleaseth me And he that speaketh agaynst him that is put in authoritie although he be as euyl as Nabuchodonozor he shal perishe thorough the sworde famine or pestilence or that that is worse through eternall death These are the very wordes that god spake by the Prophet and therfore sayth Christ Come vnto me and learne in my schole for I am humble and mylde of hart I haue obeyed Pylate and Annas and Cayphas I haue suffered the sentence of death and haue bene nayled betweene two theeues and I toke it paciently for your sakes Learne of me to be my disciples in the schoole of humilitie and you shal find rest in your spirites The which true rest in deede is for euery man to examine diligently his owne conscience and to commit to God the consciences of his Superiours ¶ The .17 Chapter ANy man may easilye perceaue by this discourse that you haue no great reason in saying that that you say much lesse to doo that that you preache I meane to beginne the reformation of the Church by the way of force the which is a thing contrarye to all lawes diuine and humane which defende that one shoulde be Iudge in his owne cause and you will not onely be a Iudge but a partie resembling in this him that gaue the blowe to Christe vnto whom the aunswere was made If wee haue done yll proue it before the Iudge seeing that you are our accusers If you saye that God hath geuen you power to knowe to iudge and to exempt that is to saye to driue vs out of our possession and to cause the people to forsake that religion which they haue mainteyned these 1500 yeres and vpwardes shew vs your commissiō with as sure a warrant as so great a matter doth require seeing that you saye that ye are sent extraordinarily as Moyses was to redeme the children of Israel out of the captiuity of Egipt that is to sai according vnto your interpretation the children of God and the true faithful out of the false religion of the Papists of that which the Pope Antichriste worse then Pharao is the head and master Thus ye vse to expound and morali●●te the figures of the olde Testament in fauoure of the Catholike Churche yet is it so that when God spake vnto you about so zealous a thing as this ye forgat one thing that doeth hinder greatlye youre Commissiō You should haue shewed god that the Commissiō which he gaue you was like to breede no lesse mischief amongst the Papistes then Moyses did among that Egiptians For I am sure if any to try you wold take your othe that you woulde sweare that the Pope is as yll as Pharao and we as harde hearted as the Egyptians Therefore why did ye not demaund of him a Rodde to conuert into a Serpent and to

to that that is outwardlye written For if so manye men of great learning and excellent vnderstanding haue found such great rocks in this rough sea which haue manye times ouerthrowen their ships howe daungerous then must it needes be vnto those that will take it in hande so doubtfull a nauigation hauing litle skill or none at all But as for you my masters of the contrarye syde you canne sayle with all tides and al winds geuing the gouernance of the ship or the guiding of the sterne without consideration to all kinde of people We haue at this daye in Fraunce I will not say in Englande many that haue the holy spirite Interpreters of the Scriptures And forsooth what are they Mary Pedlers Cobblers Tanners Bankrouts Runnegates and suche others which hauing no other liuing sue to my Lorde Bishop and he makes them ministers being not one of them but hath the holy spirite for assoone as they can saye the Lorde and rayle vpon the Pope the Bishops and al the learned men that haue bene in times past Oh these are great doctors no place of Scripture to them is harde all the auncient doctours were men and the generall Councels did erre I knowe that you doo mainteine your opinion with the saying of Christe alleaging it as other heretikes haue done the whiche is That the heauenly father hath hid these high and profound things from the great Clerkes and hath reuealed them vnto the meeke and humble This is true but it ought to be vnderstoode to the humble and meeke of spirite and not to those which trust so much to their owne wittes beinge puffed vp with arrogant ignoraunce that they thinke to knowe more in three dayes reading then the Doctours coulde in fyftie yeres studie faining themselues to be like the Apostles as if that god gouerned by their appetites did sende euery month the feast of Pentecost ¶ The .28 Chapter I Praye Syrs since you are so absolute aunswere me to this obiection Is it good to beleeue all maner of people that doo alleage the Scriptures or no If ye saye yea why doo not you beleue the abouenamed Valentinus Apollinaris Hebion Cherintus and Nestorius with diuers others that haue sought to mainteyne their errours with the newe and olde Testament If you saye no but that we ought rather to folowe the counsell of S. Iohn in his fyrste Epistle cap. 4. The which is not to beleue euery spirite but that we ought to proue whether it be of God or no What proufe will you shewe vs of yours Shewe the priuiledge that you haue by the which God doth enioyne vs to beleue your Gospell rather then the Gospell of the Pelagians Nouatians Nestorians and other suche false Apostles considering that they haue alleaged the Scriptures aswell as you If you saye that they were heretikes abusers of the people and rauishing wolues cloathed in lambes Skins and false Interpreters of the Scriptures all this is certaine But what though the like reporte goeth of you Ye saye that ye are sent from God to refourme the Churche They saye as muche They preached that the Pope was Antichriste shewinge themselues verye eloquent in detracting and rayling against the Catholike Romane Churche you doo the like At euery worde they did alleage the Scriptures in their Sermons to confyrme their doctrine as you do for yours That that they preached was called by them the Gospell and the pure worde of the Lord these are the very tearmes that you vse amonge your holye prophetes they haue beene condemned as heretikes by the generall Councels you are so likewise They did appeal vnto the pure word of God you doo the like Yet are they proued to be false cogging knaues and so shall you Then seing there is so great an vniformitie betweene you vppon what grounde shall we confyrme that reason that shoulde condemne theym as heretikes and allowe you for Catholikes S. Augustine in his Epistle .161 did put vnto a Donatist called Honoratus this probleme We desire thee not to think it much to aunswere vs to this what cause doest thou knowe or what thing hath there bene done that hath made Christ lose his inheritance spred ouer all the worlde to come to be contayned only in Affrick there only to remayne We put the like question to Caluin Beza Virett and the rest that it may please them to tell vs if that by chaunce they haue ben aduertised through what occasion our Sauiour Christ hath lost his inheritaunce that is to saye the Churche spread ouer all the worlde to remaine nowe in the latter dayes with a company of rude Swizers or in two or three corners besydes and not among the rest for there is a great number of good Catholikes what badge can ye shewe or what signe to make vs know that you are the successors of the Apostles of Christe If that the Scriptures that you alleage ought to be a sufficient proufe we are content to accepte it if you will be content to graunt the like vnto the abouenamed heretikes whiche haue fortifyed their campe with as manye places more then you doo alleage Nowe if that notwithstanding the Scriptures by them alleaged you doo condemne them as heretikes because that they did interprete them contrary to that that the Churche doth teache and to say truth you can imagine no other excuse to what purpose doo you take vpon you the names of Catholikes seeing that you commit the like offence The diuersities of those old heresyes grounded vppon the Scriptures yll interpreted doo teache vs that we shoulde not permit the noyse of youre reformed Gospell that soundeth so shrill to make vs reele from our auncient fayth and without going so farre to seek that that we haue so neere at hande Let vs talke of the present time howe many contrarye sectes doth there reigne howe many heades of heresyes Some are Lutherans some Anabaptists some Puritans some Protestants some Precisians and all these do fortifye their campes with Scriptures to fight one against another The Zuinglians and the Caluinists on the other syde doo write that all these doo erre and they proue it by Scripture The Anabaptists laughe at all the rest The Prophetes Celestes which is another secte doo no lesse grounding theym selues vppon their reuelations because that Dauid sayeth Heare what the Lorde doeth speake in me The Deists or Trinitaries which are come last of all crye out and saye that all they are heretikes and they proue it by the olde and newe Testament I praye nowe tell me which of al these shall I receaue seeing that they doo all alleage the holye Scriptures If we receaue some and not all those that are refused will saye that we offer them wronge for they haue their shoppes stored with as good stuffe of the Scriptures and as wel alleaged as all the rest If we receaue them all it will be a renewing of the olde confusion of Babilon through the neglecting of so manye Gospels If you