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A30979 A letter concerning invocations of saints, and adoration of the cross writ ten years since, to John Evelyn of Depthford, esq. / by Dr. Barlow ... Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. 1679 (1679) Wing B834; ESTC R12483 26,860 40

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