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A53751 The reports of that late reverend and learned judge, Thomas Owen Esquire one of the justices of the Common pleas : wherein are many choice cases, most of them throughly argued by the learned serjeants, and after argued and resolved by the grave judges of those times : with many cases wherein the differences in the year-books are reconciled and explained : with two exact alphabeticall tables, the one of the cases, and the other of the principal matters therein contained. England and Wales. Court of King's Bench.; Owen, Thomas, d. 1598.; England and Wales. Court of Common Pleas. 1656 (1656) Wing O832; ESTC R13317 170,888 175

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Replevin against Edmund Brach and others the Defendant made Conulance as Baily to John Levison and said that long time before the taking c. one William Coup was seised of a house and eight acres of Meadow c. whereof the place is parcell in his Demesne as of Fee and did demise the same to Richard Coup for one and twenty years reserving Rent and the Lessee died and the Land came to his Wife as his Executrix who married Roger Owseley and that William Coup did levy a Fine of the Premisses to Stephen Noke and others to the use of Stephen and his Heires and after Stephen entred and outed the Termor and infeoffed John Leveson and his Heires and then the Termor re-enters claiming his Terme and for Rent arreare the Defendant made Counsans as aforesaid and it was adjudged against the Defendant because this entry and Feoffment by Noke to Leveson and the re-entry of the Termor is no Attornment and this varies from Littleberries case where the Lessor entred and made a Feoffment and the Lessee re-entred for Noke the Lessor had not any Attornment and can have no Distresse and his Feoffee cannot be in better case then he himself And if the first Feoffee makes Feoffment to B. who enfeoffs C. and the Lessee re-enters that is Attornment but to the first Feoffee and not the other for he may be misconusant of it because he was outed by the Lessor but note Iudgment was not given till Trin. 36 Eliz. Pasch 36 Eliz. in C. B. Owens Case EDward Owen brought an Action of Waste against Peerce for land in ancient Demesne the Defendant made defence and pleaded to the Iurisdiction of the Court because the land was ancient Demesne and the Defendant was ruled to plead over for it is but a personall Action and the Statute is a beneficiall Statute for the Common-wealth and by the opinion of all the Court except Walmsley does extent to ancient Demesne 40 Ed. 3.4 Ancient Demesne is a good plea in Replevin 2 H. 7.17.21 Ed. 4.3 it is no good plea in an action upon the Statute or Glocester Mich. 33 and 34 Eliz. in C. B. Rot. 2122. Sir Edward Cleeres Case SIr Edward Cleere brought a Quare Impedit against the Bishop of Norwich Edward Peacock and Robert Hinston Clerk to present to an Addowson holden in Capite Anderson A Devise of an Addowson in grosse is void because it is of annuall value whereof the King shall have the third part But Owen Beaumont and Walmsley held the contrary and so it it was adjudged See the Case of the Earle of Huntington against the Lord of Montjoy of a Devise of Liberties of Cramford which were not of any annuall value and yet the opinion of Wray and Anderson Iustices was certified to some of the Councell being Arbitrators that the Devise was not good Trin. 36 Eliz. in C. B. Rot. 2145. Brownes Case ANthony Brown brought an Action of Trespasse against Richard Pease the Case was this John Warren was seised in fee of the Mannor of Warners and of the Mannor of Cherchall and demised his Mannor of Warners to the youngest Son of Richard Foster his Cosin in fee. at which time Richard the Father had issue George Foster and John Foster And he demised his Mannor of Cherchall in haec verba I will my Mannor of Cherchall to Margery Water for her life and if she die and then any of my Cosin Fosters Sons then living then I will my foresaid Mannor of Cherchall unto him that shall have my Manner of Warners and after the Devisor died without issue and the Reversion of the Mannor of Cherchall discended to Henry Warner as Brother and Heire of the Devisor And after the said Henry Warner by Deed Inrolled did bargain and sell the Mannor of Cherchall to Anthony Browne who devised it to the Plaintiff And then George Foster dies without issue and the Mannor of Warners does discend to Iohn Foster his Brother and Heire who enters and enfeoffs the Lord Rich and after marriage the Tenant for life of the Mannor of Cherchall dies and the Plaintiff enters and the Defendant enters upon him as Servant to Iohn Foster whereupon the Plaintiff brought this Action And Iudgment was given for the Plaintiff because that the words and the intent of the Devise was that the Mannors of Warners and Cherchall should go together and therefore the Mannor of Warners was sold before the death of Margery by John Foster and after the death of Margery John can take nothing by the Devise Mich. 29 and 30 Eliz. Rot. 2325. or 2929. Hambletons Case JOhn Hambleton had issued foure Sons John the eldest Robert the second Richard the third and Thomas the fourth and devised to each of them a parcell of land to them and the Heirs Males of their body begotten and if it happen that any of their Heirs dye without issue Male of his body lawfully begotten then the Survivor to be each others Heire If these words make a Remainder or are void was the question And it was adjudged against the Plaintiff for the Court held that all those that survived were Ioynt-tenants and one Ioynt-Tenant cannot have a Trespasse against the other for by the intent of the Will it appears that the Survivors should have that part and the survivority of each other Heire each Survivor that is all that survive shall be each others Heire and so the remainder should be to every one of them 29 Eliz. Fenners Case argued before the Lord Mayor of London at Guildhall IN this Case it was adjudged that if a man Covenants that his Son then within age and infra annos nubiles before such a day shall marry the Daughter of I.S. and he does marry her accordingly and after at the age of consent he disagrees to the marriage yet is the Covenant performed for it is a marriage and such a one as the Covenantee would have untill the disagreement vide 7 H. 6.12 Dyer 143.313 369. 25 Eliz. Webbe against Potter IN an Ejectione firmae by Webbe against Potter the Case was Harris gave Land in Frank-marriage to one White and the Deed was Dedi concessi Iohan. White in liberum maritagium Iohannae filiae meae habend dictae Ioannae heredibus in perpetuum tenend de capitalibus Dominis feodi illius with Warranty to Iohn White and his Heires Periam The usuall words in Frank-marriage shall not be destroyed for the words of Frank-marriage are Liberum maritagium cum Ioanna filia mea in the Ablative case and although here it be in the Dative case it is good And of the same opinion were all the Iudges Also a Gift in Frank-marriage made after the Espousals was held good by all the Iustices 2 H. 3. Donor 199.4 Ed 3.8 Dyer 262 B. And a Gift in Frank-marriage before the Statute was a Fee-simple but now speciall taile and if it be not a Frank-marriage he shall have an Estate for life and to prove this his
nupserit ignobili desinit esse nobilis Brookes There is a difference where a noble woman marries a noble man of less noble degree than she is and when she marries one that is not at all noble for in the first case the shall hold the dignity of her second husband but in the last case she shall retain her antient dignity And so it was observed where the Marquis of Dor●e● had two daughters the elder was married to the Lord Audley and the youngest to a Gentleman and the eldest took place alwayes as wife to a Baron but the youngest kept her place as a Marquisses daughter Dyer I was a Counsel in the Case of the Lady Powes already mentioned and she would by no means lose her dignity and an Herauld was brought into Court that said she had such dignity although it was held clearly on the contrary by our Law by Montague and Hales and the Writ did abate Stanford A noble man loseth his honour by his own act as by attaint and so hath the woman here by taking such husband and the nobility of such woman is lost also by attainder Brookes said That he knew where the sons of a Duke and Marquiz had a trespass brought against them for hunting a Park by the name of Squires and it was good wherefore it was said to Benlows that he must plead to the Writ Pasch 4 5 Ph. Mary in C. B. A Feme sole having the custody of the land and body of an Infant took husband and she and her husband did tender convenient marriage to the Infant which he refused and married himself elsewhere and at his full age entred into the land if it be necessary that both shall joyn in a Writ of forfeiture upon the marriage or that the husband alone shall have it was the question Brown Justice Both shall joyn and so is it ruled in a Book Dyer contr The husband alone shall have this Writ for he may discharge it or release it and by the 5 Ed. 3.14 6. the husband alone may have a Writ of Trespass and if the wife have an advouson and a stranger present the husband alone shall have a Quare impedit and the same Law is where the woman hath a Rent and the husband distreyns and Rescous is made the husband alone shall have a Rescous Prideaux The Wardship of a Ward and Land is a thing real and the Survivor shall have it and not the Executors of the Baron and if an Action be accrued before marriage as if a Bond be made to her before marriage she shall joyn with her husband in the Action upon the Bond but if a right to an Action does accrew after marriage there she shall not joyn as here the right of the husband does not accrew untill marriage for the Action is not in respect of the Wardship but of the tender and refusal and his marriage elsewhere all which do accrew after the Coverture Stanford If a man bring a Quare impedit for an Advowson which he hath in right of his wife and hath Iudgement to recover and dyes the wife shall present and not the Executors of the husband so if he recover in a Trespass the wife shall have execution for the damages Prideaux If a Lease be made to a woman and a Rent reserved ●…mine poenae and she takes husband and the Rent is behind both shall joyn in the Action for the pain Dyer This Action is grounded upon a real Covenant Stanford Damages recovered in a Trespass are not real yet the wife shall have them if the husband dye before Execution Dyer The Trespass is done to the inheritance of the wife and therefore she shall have damages and in 43 Ed. 1. Statham The husband alone brought a ravishment of a Ward for a Ward he had in right of his wife and the Writ held to be good but there it is said that otherwise it is in right of a Ward and if they joyn in a Writ of ravishment of Ward and recover and the husband dye before Execution his Executors shall have Execution and not the wife but it is said there Quaere and at last it was agreed that the Action should be allowed but the surest way is to have bosh joyn Pasch 6 Eliz. Powtrells Case in C. B. IN an Ejectment the case was a woman-tenant in Tail did make a Lease for 31 years and took husband and had issue the wife dyes and the husband is tenant by the curtesy and surrenders to the heir who puts out the Lessee who brings this Action Dyer I doubt whether this surrender be good for tenant by the curtesy is but in reversion and hath nothing in possession and it is dubious how he can surrender Weston and Brown He may surrender for a term or franktenement may be surrendred to him that hath the estate in reversion or remainder if it be not a mean estate as tenant for life the remainder for life the remainder in fee the first tenant for life cannot surrender to him that hath the fee. But the great point of the Case was if the issue could avoyd the Lease during the life of the tenant by curtesy and the Court held he could not for the tenant is in as a purchaser And by Walsh and Carus If tenant by the curtesy grants over his estate and then enters into religion the Grantee shall have his estate during the tenants natural life Quod omnes concesserunt and it was said also that if the heir had been impleaded during the life of the tenant by curtesy he shall not have his age quod fuit concessum Mich. 14 15 Eliz. Tottenham against Bedingfield IN an Account the Defendant pleaded he was never his Baily for to render account Gawdy prayed the opinion of the Court if the Action would lye for otherwise he would not trouble the Court. The Case was the Plaintiff had a Lease of a Parsonage and the Defendant being no Lessee nor claiming any interest takes the Tithes being set forth and carries them away if the Plaintiff could have this Action was the question Manwood It will not lye for an account lyes where there is privity but wrongs are alwayes without privity but I agree that it one receive my rents I shall have an account against him for by my consent afterwards I do make a privity for although that he hath received the Rent he hath not done wrong to me inasmuch as it is not my money untill it be paid to me but otherwise it is where a man disseiseth me of land for that is meerly a wrong and so is it in this case for when the Tithes were set forth by the Parishioners the Law sayes they are in the possession of the Parson and therefore when the Defendant took them away he does it wrongfully and therefore no account will lye against him and so was it adjudged in Lond●… in the Case of one Monax who under colour of a
607. Replevin WAkefeild brought a Replevin against Cassand who avowed for Damage-feasant And the Plaintiff prescribed that D. is an ancient Town c. and that all the Inhabitants within the said Town except the Par●ion Infants and some particular houses have used to have Common to their houses c. The Avowant shewed that the house to which Common was claimed was built within thirty years last past And whether he shall have Common to this new erected house was the question on a Demurrer Shuttleworth he shall have this Common by prescription but not of common right Gawdy the Prescription is against common reason that he should have Common time cut of mind c. to that which hath not been thirty years and he hath excepted the Parson Infants and such particular houses and by the same reason may exceptall and therefore it is not good But it was adjudged no good Prescription for if this be a good Prescription then any body may create a new house so that in long space of time there will be no Common for the ancient Inhabitants Periam By such Prescription the Lord shall be barred to improve the Common which is against reason Anderson The Common is intire for if H. hath Common appendant to three Messuages and enfeoff one of one Messuage another of the second and another of the third the Common in this case is gone But all agreed that it is impossible to have a Common time out of mind c. for a house that is builded within the thirty years Mich. 29 and 30 Eliz. Rot. 2299. Bishop of Lincolns Case Quare Impedit THe Queen brought a Quare Impedit against the Bishop of Lincoln and Thomas Leigh to present to the Church of Chalsenut Saint Giles in the County of Bucks The case was thus H. being qualified took two Benefices which were above the value of eight pounds and after took a third Benefice above the said value whereby the first Benefice became void and so remained for two years whereby Title of Lapse accrued to the Queen and before presentment made by the Queen the Patron did present one A. who being admitted instituted and inducted did refuse to pay 38 l. 2 s. ob due to the Queen for the Tenths which matter was certified by the Bishop into the Exchequer whereupon and by force of the Statute of the 26 H. 8. the Church is ipso facto void wherefore the Bishop the now Defendant being Patron in right of his Bishoprick did present Thomas Leigh the other Defendant against whom the Queen brought her Quare Impedit And it was adjudged by the Court that the Quare Impedit very well lies for the Recusancy to pay the Tenths was his own act and is a Resignation and by that reason she Church is void and this shall not hinder the Queen of the Lapse But if A. the Incumbent who was presented dies being presented by usurpation upon the Lapse to the Queen yet afterwards the right Patron shall present again But when A. the Incumbent doth resigne and make the Church void by his own Act viz. by Recusancy as in this case is done this may be done by Collusion and by such means the Queen may be deprived of her Litle by Lapse for if this Collusion between the Bishop and the Incumbent be suffered then may a stranger present upon the Title of the Queen and presently such Recusancy and Certificate may be made by which the Church shall become void and so the Queen deprived of the Lapse Fenner this Lapse is given to the Queen by her Prerogative but on condition that she take it in due time for such is the nature of the thing Lapsed as is in this case adjudged viz. That when the Queen hath Title to present by Lapse and doth not present but the Patron presents and after the Church becomes void by the death of the Incumbent In this case adjudged by the Court also the Queen cannot present but in this case the avoidance being by privation and not by death Iudgment was entred for the Queen Trin. 19 Eliz. in Com. B. Hales Case Debt on ● Bond. SAmuel Hales brought an Action of Debt on a Bond against Edward Bell and the Condition of the Bond was that if the said Bell should pay to the said Hales forty pounds within forty daies next after the return of one Russell into England from the City of Venice beyond the Seas that then the Obligation to be void and the Defendant pleaded in Bar that the said Russell was not in Venice upon which the Plaintiff demurred And adjudged by all the Iustices that it was no good plea for in such cases where parcell is to be done within the Realm and parcell out of the Realm the tryall shall be within the Realm 7 H 7.9 Trin. 28 Eliz. in Com. Ban. Haveringtons Case 1974. Debt by an Administrator HAverington and his wife as Administratrix of one Isabell Oram brought an Action of Debt against Rudyand and his wife Executrix to one Laurence Kidnelly the Case appeared to be thus Farmer for thirty years did devise to his wife so long as she shall be sole and a Widow the occupation and profits of his terme And after her Widowhood the Residue of the terme in the Lease and his interest in it to Reynald his Son the Devisor dies and the wife enters according to the Devise And afterwards he in the Reversion by Indenture Dedit concessit vendidit Barganizavit totum illud tenementum suum to the wife and her Heires and did also covenant to make further assurance and to discharge the said Tenement of all former Bargains Sales Rights Joyntures Dowers Mortgages Statute-merchants and of the Staple Intrusions Forfeitures Condemnations Executions Arrearages of Rents and of all other charges except Rents Services which shall be hereafter due to the Lords Paramount And then the Reversioner and his wife levied a Fine to the uses aforesaid and after the Devisee takes husband and thereupon the Son enters in the terme And the Administrator of the wife brought an action of debt upon an Obligation for the performance of the Covenants of the Indenture against the Administrator of the Reversioner And Judgment for the Plaintist And it appeared by the Record that these points following were adjudged to be Law although that the latter matter was onely argued 1. That the wife of the Reversioner who had Title of Dower in the Land is concluded of her right of Dower by the Declaration of the uses of the Fine by the husband onely which Fine is after levied by them joyntly because no contradiction of the woman appears that she doth not agree to the Vses which the husband selely by his Deed of Indenture had declared 2. To Devise that the wife shall have the occupation and profits during her Widowhood is a good Devise of the Land it self during such time See Plow 524. And that no Act which she can do
therefore the Action shall continue And if a man be outlawed he may bring an Action as Executor and the Writ shall not abate Browne If I make I.S. my Attorney and he the Warrant of Attorney still continuing is made a Knight yet is not the Warrant of Attorney determined although the word Knight which is now part of his name be not in the Warrant therefore in this case the Writ is good Mich. 7 Eliz. NOte it was said by Browne that if H. does let the Cite of his Mannor with all his Lands to the said Mannor appurtenant hereby all the Demesne lands do passe but if it were with all the Lands appertaining to the said Cite nothing passeth but the Mannor-place Pasch 6 Eliz. A Man seised of the Mannor of Dale doth let the same with all the Members and Appurtenances to the same to have and to hold all the members of the said Mannor to the Lessee for terme of years Walsh and Weston were of opinion that this was a Lease for years of the Mannor onely and that the limitation of the word Members being after the Habendum was void But Dyer and Browne were of the contrary opinion And Browne said that when the Habendum is used by way of limitation it shall not be void As if he let his Mannor of Dale to have and to hold one acre parcell thereof for a terme of years the Lease is void for all but if there had been no Habendum but the Lease for years had been limited in the Premisses of the Lease that is good enough And if the Lease had been Habendum every part thereof that had been a good Lease of the Mannor for all the parts comprehend all the Mannor And Dyer said that the word Members shall be taken for the Townes and Hamblets wherein the Mannor hath Iurisdiction Note it was said by Dyer that if partition be made by the Sheriff although the Writ be not returned yet it is good enough and none of the parties shall except against it and so was the better opinion concerning the Estate of Culpeper and Navall in the County of Kent Sutton brought a Writ of Ravishment of a Ward against Robinson wherein it was resolved by Dyer Carus Weston and Benlowes That if the Tenant enfeoff his Lord and others all the Seigniory is extinct also if the Tenant does infeoff the Lord but of a Moyety yet is all the Seigniory extinct And Dyer said that if the Tenant does infeoff the Lord and a stranger to the use of another and his Heires and makes Livery to the stranger this is no extinguishment of the Seigniory but if the Livery were made to the Lord it is otherwise and yet is the possession instantly carried away to the stranger by the Statute of 2 H. 7.13 A man seised of lands devises the same to his Wife to dispose and imploy them for her self and her Son according to her will and pleasure Dyer Weston and Walson held that the Wife had a Fee-simple by the Intendment of the Will and the Estate is conditionall for ea intentione will make a Condition in a Devise but not in Grant vide Dyer 2● 6 A woman Tenant in taile makes a Lease for one and thirty years and after takes a Husband who have issue the Husband being Tenant by the Curtesie surrenders the Heirs doth oust the Lessee and the Lessee brings an Ejectment And it was held that the Surrender was good and that the Privity was sufficient Mich. 40 Eliz. IN an Action of the Case for calling one Bastard Dyer and Walsh said an Action would lye but Browne on the contrary because it shall be tried in the Spirituall Court And Dyer said That at Barwick Assises a Formedon in the Discender was brought and one said that his Father by whom he claimed was a Bastard and thereupon he brought an Action against him for those words and recovered Catlin said That if Lands be given to a man and to the Heires he shall engender on the body of an English woman and he marries a French woman and she dies and then he marries an English woman that now this is a good Estate in special taile Pasch 7 Eliz. THe Prior and Monks of the Charter-house before the dissolution made a Lease for foure years reserving the ancient rent of twenty five Quarters of Wheat per annum and then the house was surrendered into the hands of King Henry the eighth and then the Lord Chancellor did let the said rent of twenty five Quarters of Wheat to I.S. for foure and twenty years And it came into question between I.S. and the Termor if this was warranted by the 27 H 8.28 Harper and Portrell it is not for the Statute is that they may make Leases of any Mannors Lands Tenements and Hereditaments for one and twenty years c. and this Wheat is neither Land Tenement nor Hereditament but a Chattell and shall be demanded in an Action of debt But the opinion of all the Court was that the Lease was good and they did agree that it was directly within the word Hereditaments for it may discend or escheat and the wife shall be endowed thereof Also upon a Lease of Corne a Rent may be referved for a man may reserve a Rent upon a Lease of a Rent and the Rent is not parcell of the Reversion but onely incident thereunto and the Lessor hath the same inheritance therein as he hath in the Reversion Trin. 7 Eliz. AN assurance was made to a woman to the intent it should be for her Ioynture but it was not so expressed in the Deed. And the opinion of the Court was that it might be averred that it was for a Ioynture and that such averment was not traversable and so was it in the case between the Queen and Dame Beaumont Winter brought an Action of the Case against Barnam for these words viz. Thou Murtherer Dyer and Walsh said that the Action would lye for there are some words that cannot be qualified as Murtherer Theef Extortioner false Knave and in such Case an Action will lye but contrary where such words are spoken in a jesting way Note by Dyer that the Lord Fitz-James late Lord chief Iustice of England did devise his land to Nicholas Fitz-James in taile with divers remainders over and in the same devise he devised divers Iewels and peeces of Plate viz. the use of them to the said Nicholas Fitz-James and the Heires Males of his body In this case it was the opinion of the Court that the said Nicholas had no property in the said plate but onely the use and occupation And the same Law where the Devise was that his Wife should inhabit in one of his houses which he had for terme of years during her life because the Wife takes no interest in the terme but onely an occupation and usage out of which the Executors cannot eject her during her life but Walsh held the contrary Hil. 8 Eliz. IF a Bishop
21. years that is good and the Executor shall have it as in right of his Testator But where a man makes a Lease for years or life the remainder after his death for 40. years to his Executors the Executors shall have it as purchasors for this word remainder divides it from the Testator and makes the Executors purchasors Walmesley Glanvill and Kingsmill cont And their chief reason was from the intent of the parties and their intent was that the Lessee should have an estate during life for it is to him for 89. years if he so long live and because by common intendment he cannot survive those years their intent was that his Executors should have it after his death and that the certainty of the time might be known it was limited for 40. years And W lmsley said that the Administrator could not have this by purchase for when a man takes by purchase he must be named by an apt name of purchase by which he may be known as if there be tenant for life the remainder to the right heirs males of J.S. and J.S. hath issue two sons and the eldest hath issue a daughter and J.S. dies this daughter shall never take any estate because she is not heir male she hath no name of purchase and therefore here the Administrator cannot take by purchase for the Administrator comes in by the ordinary and therefore cannot be an assignee And at last Iudgment was given That the Administrator should hold it as a thing vested in the Intestate Michaelm 41 42 Eliza. VVhite against Gerish in C. B. Rot. 366. IN a Replevin the Defendant avowd for Rent The case was this Two persons did joyne in leavying a fine to J. S in Fee ●ur co●…ns de droit come ceo c. J.S. by the same Fine renders the Lands to one of the Conusors in taile reserving Rent and further would quod tenementa pre●…cta remanerent to the other who is the avovee Walmesley The Rent shall passe as if a man grants land for life and also grants quod tenementa predicta remane●unt to another these words Quod tenementa predicta do make a grant of the reversion and also these renders are as severall Fines and so it shall be taken as a grant in Taile rendring Rent and after a grant of the reversion Glanvill accorded Warburton If a man makes a gift in Taile rendring rent the remainder over in Fee the Donor shall have the Rent and not he in the remainder Walmesley That is true in a grant but not in a Fine Anderson If a man makes a gift in Taile rendring rent and at the same instant grants the Reversion and the Deeds are delivered accordingly this shall passe as a reversion And after it was adjudged to be a grant of the reversion and that the rent passeth Crawleys Case IN Replevin the case was thus A Rent is granted to two during the life of J.S. to the use of J.S. the grantee dieth and if the Rent were determined was the Question Walmsley The rent remains to J.S. for the grantees have an estate during the life of J.S. and by the Statute of the 27. l. 8. the use is raised and conjoynd with the possession whereby the Rent it self is carryed to J.S. whereby J.S. hath an absolute estate for his life and the life of the grantees is not materiall as if Rent be granted to two for the life of J.S. if he does not grant over the rent their lives are not materiall And if they grant over and dse the Rent shall not cease but the grantee shall have it during the life of J.S. And here the Statute 27 l. 8. vests this in cestuy que vie otherwise if it were before the Statute of use quod fuit concessum per curiam Pasch 41 Eliz. Shaw against Sherwood Rot. 2504. THe Executors of Shaw brought an Action of Debt for 20 l. upon a Bill and the Bill was thus I William Shaw have received of Thomas Pret 40 l. to the use of Robert Shaw and Eliz●beth Shaw equally to be divided which said sum I acknowledge my self to have received to the use aforesaid and the same to re deliver again at such time as shall be most fit for the profit and commodity of the said Robert Shaw and E●…zabeth Walmesley Two points are here First if this be a Debt to cestuy que use or to him who gave it Secondly if it be divided so that each of them shall have an Action for 20 l. And as to the first he held that it was a debt to him for whose use the money was delivered and as to the second that they shall have a debt as of several debts by reason of these words equally to be divided K●…g●…m Here is no Obligation for the words are not obligatory but onely an acknowledgement of the receipt Glany●ll accorded Walmesley When he acknowledged the receipt to both their uses without question such Receiver is a Debtor And agreed by the Court that admitting it was a Debt that then it shall be a divided Debt and not joynt Quod nota Lane against Cotton IN Debt upon a Bond on condition to pay 20 l. within a month after the Obligee had a son that did or could speak the Lords P●…er in English that he could be understood the Plaintiff pleaded that he had a son qui loqui potui● praecationem Domini u●intellig● potuerit and the Defendant demurr'd because it was pleaded that he had a son qui loqui potui for that is a secret ability that cannot be known Kingsmill The plea is good and shall be tryed as in case of a Writ of non com●…s mentis Glanvill accorded for it may be proved by the testimony of those who have heard him speak and if he ever spoke it it is good evidence that he had ability to speak Walmesley contr Because it is a secret thing it cannot be tryed Kingsmill A man is bound in a Bond to give me 20 l. when the River of Var● is novigable it is a good plea to say that the River is navigable without saying that some have navigated upon it Her● Serjeant cited a Case adjudged in a Quare impedit by the Patron against the Bishop who had pleaded that the Parishioners were Welshmen and that they could not understand English and that the Clerk he presented could not understand Welsh and the Patron pleaded that the Clerk could speak Welsh and upon Demurr it was adjudged a good issue and that such matter might be tryed Anderson The issue is good and it is at the election of the party to plead quod loqui potuit vel loquutus est And if I am obliged to you to give you a 100 l. when I am able to go to Pauls this may ●e tryed although in facto I never went to Pauls and if I am able I shall pay the money And he cited Broughtons Case where in Maintenance the Defendant pleaded that he