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A92140 A free disputation against pretended liberty of conscience tending to resolve doubts moved by Mr. John Goodwin, John Baptist, Dr. Jer. Taylor, the Belgick Arminians, Socinians, and other authors contending for lawlesse liberty, or licentious toleration of sects and heresies. / By Samuel Rutherfurd professor of divinity in the University of St. Andrews. Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1649 (1649) Wing R2379; Thomason E567_2; ESTC R203453 351,532 454

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Testament he shall thrust through the false Prophet that speaketh lies in the Name of the Lord Zach. 13. 1 2 3 4 5 6. Kings as Kings must confer some royall service to the Church over which they are Nurse-fathers But all the power that Kings have is essentially co-active and in order to rewarding or punishing Rom. 13. 3 4. therefore they must confer coactive service Piscator saith well That the Prince is called the keeper of both Tables of the Law by our Divines therefore he is to vindicate Gods glory in both He that hath the keeping of two pits one more horrible and dark another more mild and heartsome for two malefactors a theef and an adulterer he must not cast the theef in such a dark dungeon as the adulterer So if the Magistrate keep both Tables he must not punish according to his own will but according to the rule and prescript of God Nor saith the Author of the Bloody Tenet any thing when he tels us that the Magistrate owes to the true Religion 1. Approbation and reverend esteem 2. Personall submission to the spirituall government Mat. 18. 1 Cor. 5. 3. Protection to the Subjects whether they be apart or met together To a false Religion he oweth permission not approbation Mat. 13. 30. 2. Protection from violence to their persons and estates Answ All this is very nothing 1. Approbation and submission to truth is no royall power Isaiah giveth a paternall and fatherly power to the King in Church matters when he saith He shall be a nurse-father Now all he gives in these two former points to wit approbation of and submission to truth is no more then any tradesman or son owes to the Church So Isaiah makes the King a father this author makes him a son subject to the Church which subjection I deny not in another consideration but that as a nurse-father he should approve the truth and submit thereunto as all the members of the Church makes him both a father and a son a commander and a humble submissive obeyer in the same consid●ration which is most contradictorious and uncongruous for he must speak of him as a Ruler or else he saith nothing The third thing which is protection to the true Church is nothing to the purpose for that he owes to them as subjects not as they are serving God in the duties of the first Table for the King by this man can neither command them nor forbid them by his Magisteriall or coactive power to serve God or not to serve him in the duties of the first Table and by the true Church that the King owes protection to the Author meaneth not the Church that is in it self sound and true but the Church that seemeth and appeareth so to the conscience of the Magistrate though most erronious Now this is the Church of Seekers and Anabaptists but suppose the Magistrate or Commander in war be a Familist a grosse Anabaptist the Author will not say That he ought to protect the Church assembled to worship God and to excommunicate and deliver to Satan such as subvert the faith of many and say the Resurrection is already past or that he ought to protect an Assembly of Divines that are for Presbyteriall Government and the truth that Calvin and our Reformers delivered These are to him Antichristian Synagogues or if he owe them protection he ought to offer violence with his sword to Anabaptists such as rose in Germany under John Becold of Leydon that out of meer principles of Religion killed all that were not of their way and to displace imprison and confine Presbiterians So yet in a defensive way the Magistrate must offer violence to the conscience of men who for meer Religious grounds doe labour to scatter and violently to hinder the meetings of the servants of God for how many of the Sectaries of England who are for liberty of conscience have come into Churches in England and stepped up to the Pulpit and hindered the Minister the discharge of his conscience to the flock and offered violence to the meeting of the true Church now it is not enough to say the Minister was but an Antichristian service-bookman and it was no true Church whose service such Sectaries interrupted but giving and not granting it were so yet are Libertines not to offer violence to the conscience of any Church true or false if they be true to their own principles but this Author being an Anabaptist and a Seeker will say neither warres nor such violence are lawfull but if so the Magistrate then cannot with the sword protect the true Church against the violence of men who upon meer conscience disturbe their Assemblies 2. To Libertines all Churches professing true Religion as all Churches on earth Indians and Mahometanians not excepted do must be true Churches for they are not to judge but that they follow their conscience and so the Magistrate ow● protection to them though their conscience be most erroneous even for such as they conceive to be true Churches they are not infallibly perswaded they are such and so the Magistrate gives no protection to them as true Churches but only as Subjects which the Author tells the Magistrate he owes to false Churches so the King by this is a Nurse-father by his office and by the places Isai 49. 23. and 60. 10. to bring his glory of protection to the where of Rome if they be his Subjects as well as to the New Jerusalem but sure the King by these places ows father-nursing and Magistratical protection to the true Church not to the false because Isai 49. 23. 1. The place is clearly of such a Church as the Lord can no more forget then a woman cannot have compassion on the fruit of her wombe v. 14 15. 2. Such a Church as is graven on the palmes of Gods hands v. 16. 3. Whose ●●sters and destroyers shall be removed v. 17. and destroyed vers 18. 4. Which shall be inlarged by the incomming of the Gentiles whose place shall be too narrow for multitude of Sons and daughters begotten by the power of the Gospel though she was a captive removing too and fro v. 19 20 21. 5. A Church that shall lift up a standard to the Gentiles and Nations to take in their Sons and daughters to fight under Christs colours as being baptized to the same faith vers 22. 6 A Church whose spirituall Government Kings and Queens shall obey licking the dust before them v. 23. 7. A people that wait for the Lord and so shall not be ashamed v. 23. Now to say that a false Church shall have all these glorious priviledges needeth no refutation and they must be stupid who teach that Kings are made Nurse-fathers by this Text to Antichrists Kingdom as if the Lord had the Beast and his followers written on the palmes of his hands or that Kings being made Nurse-fathers to the true Church owe nothing to those that wait on the
in hypocrits in a Jew following the righteousnesse of the Law Rom. 10. 1. and renouncing Christ Surely if works of saving grace speake another thing then hypocrites and devils may have then first holy walking is no ground of comfort and a good conscience hath no more to yeeld David Job Ezechiah Paul the Apostles and Martyrs when they suffer for Christ and his truth and are in heavie afflictions and chaines then it can yeeld to the viledest of men 2. A man a Christian shall never finde●ny grounds of certainety of his adoption in any thing save in the hidden decrees of Election and reprobation and in some immediate testimony of a Spirit which may be a great doubt to many who walke as many Antinomians doe according to the flesh 3. All their rejoycing in simplicity and godly sincerity 2 Cor. 1. 12. is emptie phancies and delusions for they rejoyce in that in which hypocrites and reprobates may have is deepe a share as they But that there is also some immediate testimony of the Spirit though never seperated from the fruits of the Spirit I hope to prove elsewhere The last act of Conscience is in relation to the Conclusion which is the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or judgement of all from whence flow the acts of approving or improving excusing or accusing condemning or absolving from these as the Conscience doth well or ill arise 1. Joy called a feast in which the soule is refreshed not the phancie 2. Upon a solid ground a bottome that cannot sinke from that which is well done 2. Consolution which is a joy in tribulation 3. Faith going from what the man doth well to a generall To these that walke according to this rule peace 4. Hope that the Lord who hath promised will doe the soule good in the latter end these foure issue from a good Conscience from approving and ●●●cusing But the affections which flow from improving and ●●cusing and condemning are 1. Shame whence the man 〈◊〉 displeased with what he hath done this is good when it looketh onely or most to the sinne or ill when most to the punishment 2. Sadnesse 3. Distrust or unbeliefe 4. Feare 5. Dispaire 6. Anger vexation or the worme that dyeth not it is no wonder that a greater number of troublesome affections ●low from the one then from the other evill is fecound and broody The 4. which I proposed is the second circumstance of the Text which draweth in the rest and it is a conscience 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 free of stones or blocks that neither actively causeth my self nor others to stumble nor passively is under a reatus or guilt before God called a good Conscience to which is opposite an evill conscience Now the Conscience is good either in regard of integrity a cleane a good a pure conscience or secondly in regard of calmenesse and peace to this latter is opposed a Conscience penally evill or troubled of which no more the good Conscience is either good in Judging or recta or vera the contrary of this an erring Conscience which I speake of after the other or good in a morall quallity In this meaning the Conscience is good which is first sprinkled with the blood of Christ from dead workes to serve the living God Heb. 9. 14. For by Christ must the guilty be purged that there may be no more Conscience of sinnes Hebr. 10. 2. This is the Conscience which is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 good 1 Tim. 1● 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 purged and washen Hebr. 10. 2. in regard the great spot of guiltinesse is taken away and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Tim. 1. 5. cleare pure terse like a Christall glasse and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hebr. 13. 18. good and honest or beautifull and faire a good Conscience is a comely resplendent lovely thing and it is a Conscience in the text 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 void of stumbling there is a Conscience that wants feet and is lame and halteth and is alwaies tripping stumbling falling to this is opposed a Conscience 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Heb. 10. 22. let us draw neere with a true heart with full assurance 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 being sprinkled in the heart from an evill Conscience and to this is opposed a polluted 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Conscience Tit. 1. 15. The wisdome of God in creating the world is much and most seene in creating so rare a peece as the soule and the most curious peece in the soule is that lumpe of Divinitie the Conscience it is the likest to a chip and 〈◊〉 of God though it be not a part of the infinite Majestie yet it smelleth more of God then the heavens the sunne the starres or all the glorious things on earth Precious stones Saphires Rubies or Herbes Roses Lilies that the Lord hath made now wh●n the floure and crown of the whole creation which is the spirit is corrupted it is the fowlest thing that is when the Angel● the sons of the Morning fell and their Conscience the Spirit of the purest and most glorious Spirits was polluted with guilt though infinite grace could have cured this rare peece yet infinite wisdome as it were giving over the cause and Grace and Mercie standing aloofe from the misery of Angels a Saviour is denyed them and Justice worketh the farther on this noble peece the Conscience of these fallen Spirits to destroy them God would not stretch out one finger to repaire their Conscience but when the Conscience of man was polluted because Grace has ever runne in this channell to worke upon free choise and arbitration to save Men not Angels and of Men these and these not others therefore the Lord fell upon a rarer worke than Creation to redeeme the choisest peece of creation to wash soules and to restore consciences to a higher luster and beauty then they had at the first Now what ever God doth no man can doe it for him an infinite agent cannot worke by a deputie and among all his works none required more of God of the Artifice of Grace and mercy wisdome deepenesse of love then to wash a polluted Conscience there was more of God required to mend and sodder the Jewell than to make and preserve it The blood of Bulls and Goats cannot be spoken of here now to make Conscience againe fundamentally good there was need that the most curious art of free grace should bee set on worke to act a greater miracle on this choisest peece then ever was before or after to make the conscience good an act of attonement and expiation to satisfie infinite Justice must passe and by shedding of and sprinkling on the Conscience the blood of God the Conscience onely and no other way known to Men or Angels could be restored Vse We professe that the morrall washing of the out-side of the cup hath nothing in it of a good Conscience morrall honestie alone can no more inherite the Kingdome of heaven then
he erre from the sense of the Holy Ghost the Scripture is no Scripture if it be believed in a sense contrary to the Scripture to him who so believes and so his faith is no faith but a vaine night-phancie and seeing the word of God gives us but one faith and one truth and one Gospel if interpretations be left free to every man these Libertines gives us millions of faiths with millions of senses and so no faith at all Secondly They give us two decisions one made by God and another by the Church contrary to Gods that has no rule but every mans private judgement and free phancie as if the decision of controversies made by the Church in Synods which we suppose is not divided from that of Gods were some other thing then the decision of the Holy Ghost speaking in the word and declared by the Church in a ministeriall way and if it be any other than this it is not to be received nor a lawfull decision ministeriall of a Synod but to be rejected Thirdly if there be no need of a decision to expone the word because the word is clear if we wrong the word of God if we think our words are clearer that Gods it is true if we had eyes to see and apprehend the minde of God in his word without an interpretation then all ministerie and proaching of the Gospel is cried downe by this what have any to doe to expone the first principles of the Oracles of God to the Hebrews c. 5 ● or what need they teach exhort preach in season and out of season What needeth the Eunuch a teacher or Cornolius Peter or Saul Ananias to teach them had they not the Scriptures if Timothie the preachers that speake the word of the Lord to the Hebrews Philip Peter Ananias think their words clearer than the word of God they doe a great injurie to the word of God or if they beleeved their words were clearer than the words of Esaiah and the Prophets and they did that which was not necessary if they opened and expounded the Prophets and decided controversies for they should have acquiesced to the decision of God as it lyeth in the Scripture and not have preached but read the Prophets and left it free to the hearers to put on the words of Scripture what interpretation and sense they thought best Fourthly That no Confessions ought to be but in expresse words of Scripture shall free all one and consequently all Churches from obedience to that which Peter commands 1 Pet. 3. 15. Be readie alwayes to give an answere to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with ●●eeknesse and fear When Stephen Acts 7. and Paul Acts 26. were accused of heresie and speaking against Moses and the semple they made a confession of their faith not in words of Scripture but in deductions and necessary consequences drawne from Scripture and applyed to themselves and these in Nehemiahs time who wrote and sealed or subscrubed a Covenant did not write and seale the expresse Decalogne and ten Commandements 〈◊〉 the words of the Covenant of Grace I will be thy God and the God of thy seed but entered into a curse and into an Oath to walke in Gods Law which was given by Moses the servant of God and to observe and to doe all the Commandements of the Lord our God and his judgements and his statutes and that say they we would not give our daughters to the people of the Land nor take their daughters for our sons and if the people of the Land bring ware or victuals on the Sabbath day to sell that we would not buy it of them Nehemiah c. 10. v. 29 30 31 32 33 34. c. compared with Nehe. c. 9. v. 38. Which words are not a confession nor Covenant in expresse Scripture save that they are historically insetted in the Cannon of the Scripture by the Holy Ghost In which sense the law and decree of Nebuchadnezzar Daniel 6. And of other heathen Kings as Daniell 3. 29. 30. Ezra 1. 2 3. c. 7. 11 12 13 14. c. Are Scriptures but they are not the expresse words of the Law for there is nothing in the expresse Law touching the Sabbath of not buying ware and victual from the heathen of the land that Nehemiah speakes of which warranteth us to enter in the like Covenant and make the like Confession of faith to defend and stand to the Protestant Religion and that Christ was God and man and man in one person and that we shall not buy ware or victuals from the Anabaptist and Familists of England who trample on the Sabbath day though these be not expresse words of Scripture It is true Libertines say men have made Apologies and confessions of faith for their own defence as Steven and Paul but they injoyned not these by authoritie and command as a rule of faith upon others and wrote them not as a fixed standard of the faith of others and that warrants no Church to impose a faith upon others Answ 1. This will prove that as one man accused of heresie may publish a confession of his faith which may cleare his innocencie and the soundnesse of his faith to others and remove the scandall according to that of 1 Pet. 3. 15. And by the same reason Independents Libertines Familists Antinomians Anabaptists and all the Sects of England upon the same ground that the Albigenses went upon should by some Confession and Covenant give an account of their faith and hope with meeknesse and feare And what particular persons are obleiged to doe that Churches when they are slandered as unsound in the faith are oblieged to doe and so I looke at a forme or confession of faith as a necessary Apologie for clearing of the good name of a Church defamed with Heresies and new sects but for the imposing of this Confession upon others these others are either Neighbour-Churches or their own Members As concerning neighbour-Churches they have no Authoritie over them Yet may they declare that Familists who say Christ is not come in the flesh are the Spirit of the Antichrist and for these of their own Church if they goe out from them and separate to an Antichristian side after the example of the Apostles and Elders they may command them to abstaine from such and such hereticall opinions and after they have convicted them as perverters of souls proceed to excommunication against them as refusers to consent to the forme of wholesome words as may be prooved from Math. 18. 15 16 17. c. Rom. 16. 17 1 Thes 2. 13 14 15. And other Scriptures as Reve. 2. 1 2 3. v. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20. Now that it is not sufficient that they be put to subscribe a confession of faith in onely scripture words is cleare 1. because the Jews will sweare and seale the old Testament in their own sense but their sense makes the old
till James fully determined the question from the word of God v. 13 14 15 16. then it is most clear that these that erre in other points that are not fundamentals in which all Christians agree may be perverters of souls and so deserve to be rebuked by the Church and punished 3. This opinion of so 〈◊〉 ring all save such as erre in fundamentals though they 〈◊〉 non fundamentals is grounded upon this that the Scripture is evidently plain and clear in fundamentals but in other points 〈◊〉 non-fundamentals the Scripture is dark and in regard of the darknesse and naturall ignorance of our minde which is in●●cible almost we must forbear one another and give and take elbow-roome and latitude of indulgence because the Magistrate and Church are not infallible but both Godly and learned may be on each side so that there should be no peace nor union of hearts in Christian societies but all Churches or earth must disband and be dissolved if each should punish and censure one another for holding contrary tenets But 1. Mr. John Goodwine who contendeth for a Catholicke tolleration of all of any Religion whatsoever whither they erre in fundamentals or non-fundamentals and his words because nnanswerable to me against this distinction I set down I desire it be taken saith he to serious consideration 〈◊〉 or how farre it is meet to punish or censure poor miserable men for not holding or not asserting the truth of these things which they cannot come without much labour and contention of minde yea not without some good degree of some reason and understanding too to judge so much as probable nor at all to come to believe or know them certainly but onely by an immediate and supernaturall work of the Spirit of God● are 〈◊〉 to be punished because God hath not imparted to them his Spirit of grace and supernaturall illumination This learned and sharp witted Divine as any I see of that way confirms me much that tolleration in non-fundamentals and non-tolleration in errours fundamentall is a distinction cannot subsist in the way that Libertines in England now goe for to know or believe supernaturall non-fundamentals as the histories of the miracles of Christ the Prophets and Apostles requires a work of the Spirit of grace and supernaturall illumination is to know or believe fundamentalls why then should men be punished for holding errours in the one and not in the other and the conscience cannot be compelled in the one more then in the other but with favour I desire an answer to these quaeries Quaere 1. Whether men deserve to be pitied and spoken of compassionately as poore miser 〈…〉 which they 〈…〉 work of the Spirit of grace and supernaturall 〈…〉 the false Prophet Deut 13. and Elima● the perverter of the Gospel deserves to be pi●ied Query 2. Hence whether the sinfull blindnesse of our in 〈◊〉 that makes us because poor and miserable 〈…〉 must not black the spotlesse justice of our Lord who yet punisheth originall mind-blindnesse in thousands of the sons of Adam Query 3. Whether this hinteth not at 〈…〉 power of believing and doing what we can otherwise God cannot deny further grace or punish that naturall impotency of not knowing or not believing Quer. 4. Whether the same query may not be retorted upon the Justice of Gods law Deut. 13. 〈…〉 thus whether is it mee● that the just God should command a poo●● miserable seducing Jew who saith Let us go and worship strange Gods since this miserable impostor being a son of sin and wrath by nature cannot come without much labour and contention of mind yea nor without some good degree of reason to judge so much as it is probable nor at all to believe or know certainly that 〈◊〉 no● the true God but the God of the Jews onely excluding on the world from saving means of salvation is the onely true God onely to be served and worshipped but onely by an immediate and supernaturall work of the Spirit of God are men either Jews under the Law or Gen●●les under the Gospel to be punished and stoned to death because God hath not ●●parted to them his Spirit of Grace and supernaturall 〈◊〉 Quer. 5. Is it meet to punish David suppose he were no King for adultery and treacherous murther since without a worke of the Spirit of Grace who only effectually 〈…〉 being led into temptation he cannot eschew the 〈◊〉 into adultery and murther are men-adulterer● and men murtherers to be punished because God hath not imparted ●●to them his Spirit of grace by whose actuall assistance only they can decline adultery and marther● Quer. 6. Whether did even 〈…〉 teach that the Magistrate should punish with the sword poor miserable men because they canot believe 〈◊〉 of faith by the supernaturall illumination of the Spirit whether is 〈◊〉 the question perverted when a Query is made whether the Magistrate is to punish poor men for not understanding not 〈◊〉 not judging not believing supernaturall truths we say the Magistrate or his sword hath nothing to do with the elect and internal acts of the minde of understanding knowing judging or believing but onely with the externall acts of speaking teaching 〈◊〉 ●ishing dangerous and pernitious doctrines to the 〈◊〉 and destraction of the soules of others Quer. 7. Whether the Magistrate does therefore force the conscience of a false teacher because he cannot he dare not keep up doctrines pornicious to the souls of others but publish them because his erroneous and evill conscience judgeth them to be saving and necessary truths when the Magistrate punisheth him more then he forceth the conscience of a murtherer whom he punisheth though this murtherer judged in his conscience that the man be killed did him so crying and oppressive an injury as in the court of God deserved bodily death or when this man murthered his son in a sacrifice to God out of meer conscience Quer. 8. Whether or no this divine who will have 〈◊〉 to be punished for erring in fundamentalls because they believe them not doth not say none that teacheth there is ●● God that Jesus Christ is a grand impostor and faller 〈◊〉 the truth and saith Satha● is the only God of this world and 〈◊〉 to be served ought to be so much as rebuked for without the immediate and supernaturall worke of the Spirit of God they cannot know or believe these truthe and are men to be rebuked and preached against because God hath not imparted to them his Spirit of grace whether doth not this arguing evict all the Ministery rebukes and exhortation and morall extirpating of heresies by the power of the word Quer. 9. Whether this be not the old argument of 〈◊〉 who argued from liberty of free-will to conclude liberty of conscience and said forcing of free-will if the Magistrate hinder men to be a willing people to Christ is an injury done to conscience and to free-will and to God the Creat●● of the soule and the same
and unjust the conclusion blasphemous and Atheisticall 3. Consider how Celsus proveth that the heretickes that dye for heresies is not taken with vaine-glory and for a name because a hereticke dyes infamous and filled with reproach but make an argument of that he that dyes for that which in the opinion of the contrary side is infamous and reproachfull cannot dye for a name among men and vaine-glory but he that dyes for heresie dyes so ergo The major is most false for to dye for heresie in the estimation of the heretick and of all of his opinion and of all that for all after generations shall be of his opinion is no reproach but an everlasting name to the hereticke so dying and a name and glory with men is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an opinion and is coyned lives and breaths in the conceit and braine of men we all say Lucretia Seneca Ca●o dyed for vaine-glory for to the Romans it was glorious yet they dyed truly and really infamous for Christians who know what true honour and true liberty is say and truly thinke they dyed infamous and shamelesse murtherers and slaves to the people and the aire and breath of the peoples mouth and their empty plaudite 4. Nor will any man far lesse an hereticke willingly chuse the destruction of his owne soule Answ An Atheist sticks not to contradict God Prov. 8. 36. All they that hate me love death but false teachers and hereticks hate wisdome and Christ Deut. 13. 3. not to follow God is to hate God he denyes the Lord that bought him he is proud destitute of the truth a vaine and unruly talker reprobate as concerning faith leads captive soules and such cannot chuse the feare of the Lord. 2. He speaketh like an heathen for the will of hereticks and of all godlesse men is captive and the will they have is to serve the devill and though we could not tell determinately what end an hereticke hath in dying for his heresie it cannot prove his innocencie Yea the Donatists killed themselves and cast themselves downe head-long from an high place they did that saith Mr. Celsus out of obstinacy and malice to be avenged on Catholicks and bring them under the guilt of persecuters which was an evill conscience in them but there can be no evill conscience in an heretick dying for his opinion an hereticke dying for his opinion cannot have an ill conscience he prayes to God commends his safety to him acknowledgeth Christ his Son his Redeemer and Saviour sings hymnes and praises in the midst of the flames of fire Answ That is a conjecture that Donatists and Circumce●●ions killed themselves to be revenged on Catholicks Augustine neither Ep. 61. nor Ep. 50. nor elsewhere makes mention of such an end they had but because they beleeved it was happinesse to dye for Christ yea though so it were praying and praising and crying The Temple of the Lord will he say there can be no malice in theeves murtherers adulterers perjured persons walkers after other Gods and such as kill their sonnes to the devill in Top●e● Jer. 7. 3 4 5 9. 30 31. and in bloody persecuters who said the Lord be glorified Esa 66. 5. and in these that thinke they doe God service in killing the Apostles of the Lord Joh. 16. 1. the man speakes not like a divine but an Atheist and most that are for Libertinisme to me are Atheists 2. When Servetus and other Martyrs of the Devill dye●● we heard nothing of their singing of Psalmes in the fire Paul 〈◊〉 a swearer and a drunkard who denies the Deity of the Son of God is not one of these But Celsus I conceive thinkes the godly martyrs that the bloody mother of fornications Babylon hath killed for the testimony of Jesus were heretickes because they had no certainty of faith for the truths they were burnt for because the faith of Libertines is Scepticisme 3. Heretickes may before men pray and acknowledge a Saviour but as the formall of heresie so of sound faith is in the heart and unseen to Celsus and therefore this argument is but a conjecture and so Paul 2 Tim. 3. saith those that 〈◊〉 from the faith have but a form of godlinesse deny the power thereof 4 Though heretickes acknowledge a Redeemer which yet may be questioned whether they doe all so even those who deny the Lord that bought them yet these arguments of Celsus and Libertines plead for liberty of conscience not onely to hereticks that acknowledge a Redeemer but to all to open blasphemers apostates from the Christian faith to Judaisme and Mahometisme for should any Christian turn Jew as some have done and pray to God and be willing to dye for Judaisme and acknowledge the Messiah to come Libertines can no more make a window in this mans conscience to see his end in so doing and know infallibly that neither pleasure profit nor honour led him but meere and onely principles of Religion in regard places in the New Testament cite passages of the Old so farre seemingly to reason contrary to the scope of the Prophets then you can see to the conscience of a hereticke and Religion is to be compelled in no man one or other nor the sword or violence used against any though Celsus and the Belgick Remonstrants thinke false teachers may rather be banished and imprisoned le●t they pervert the faith of others But if they yeeld any corporall restraint or violence may be used against false teachers they fall from their cause and lose all their arguments for one degree of one violence though banishment be cousen Germanes to death and to some who cannot live and subsist but in England as there are many such far worse can no more be used against the conscience then forcing of ten degrees or tormenting deaths But● saith Celsus Heretickes that dye for their heresie are stupid and drunken But how can stupidity and malice be in one saith he malice is not without certaine knowledge stupidity deprives men of knowledge and render them blocks can ye find a man who willingly and wittingly makes defection from God and resists the truth against his owne conscience and yet is so stupid that he knowes not what he doth and can indure foolishly to dye for maintaining a lye Answ If the Author were not stupid hee would not declare himselfe so Atheistically ignorant of spirituall stupidity for highest malice and a hardened and fatned heart eyes eares and a heart that cannot see heare or perceive and so are spiritually stupid doe not lodge sundered one from another Esay 6. 9 10 11. hath this man read the word Esay 29 9. Stay your selves and wonder cry ye out and cry they are drunken but not with wine they stagger but not with strong drink 10. The Lord hath powred out upon you the spirit of a deep sleep and hath closed your eyes the Prophets and your Rulers the Seers hath he covered and yet these same were deep
Commandement as it is probable it is true and acceptable and worship to God and though it were false worship it is as probable that to punish it is a sacrilegious invading of Gods place as it is an act of justice in the Magistrate 4. If the Magistrate must beleeve as the Libertine doth doth and teacheth him what he will if it were King and Parliament and all the Judges in Britain if they be of the faith of Libertines what conscience have they to take away the ●ead of a father who sacrificeth his onely childe to God upon meere religious principles what warrant have they before the tribunall of God to cut off his head as a peace-breaker rather then to spare his life as a sacrificer and a devout and zealous whether it be blinde zeal or no the Libertine Magistrate hath nothing to do to judge worshipper of God whether or no hath the Magistrate who in that case killeth a● innocent man according to his own libertine-conscience greater respect to false peace in a humane society then to true piety and innocent walking with God which forbids him to punish any thing that is onely to the subject he punisheth a meere devout worshipping of God 5. Upon the same ground should not the masse and all the broad worship on earth be tolerated since it hath farre lesse connexion with disturbance of peace then the Anabaptists children-killing worship of God 6. If the formall is ratio the onely formall reason and cause why the Magistrate is to use corporall coersion against none now under the New Testament but is to suffer every man to worship God as he best pleaseth because the worship of the New Testament is more spirituall the Law-giver Christ a meeker Mediator then Moses and there is no warrant now to hinder any man or lay bands and coactive violence upon Christs free subjects with force of sword to restraine them in one worship more then another what reason an Anabaptists offering his son a sacrifice to God should be restrained in his sacrificing more then in other acts of worship is not the man persecuted for his conscience is not this a carnall and no New Testament way of restraining him when he is restrained by the sword is not the onely word of God and no weapons that are carnall the way of rescuing men from all false worship and the onely way 7. Nor can the bloodinesse and cruelty of that worship be a sufficient ground why the Magistrate may restraine the conscience of the devout worshipper for who ought to sit as Lord Judge above the conscience of this father and sentence the worship as destructive to peace or the worshipper as a bloody man his conscience is under the New Testament and the Lord his onely judge But by the light of nature that the father kill the sonne to God 〈◊〉 murther and ●ruel●y But I answer if it be gratefull worship to God it is no more cruelty then to burne a beast to God and you are to suppose that a godly Anabaptist hath warrant from God for that worship as well for burning of beasts and offering yearely thousands of bullocks and sheep to God in memory of Christ once already sacrificed for sinners and that there is in it neither cruelty to beasts nor hurt to the Common-wealth that the Magistrate can restraine for though there be no reason at all for the worship ex natura rei if we consider the worship it selfe yet there is such reason to tolerate the worship so as if the Magistrate restraine he tyranni●eth over the conscience and a bloody conscience is a conscience as uncapable of violence and as immediately in the New Testament subject to God onely not to the sword as a good conscience then if the sword can straine no conscience as conscience how can it squeeze a conscience wading in bloody son-butchery more then any other conscience 8. If the Magistrates punishing of any for his conscience be a violent compelling of him to sin to worship or to forbeare worship against his conscience how will Libertines cleare Magistracy in the Old Testament from being intrinsecally a sinfull ordinance for the Magistrate in the Old Testament in stoning to death the seducing Prophet and the blasphemer must compell him to sin against his conscience and to professe Jehovah not Baal was the true God whereas the seducer believed in his conscience the contrary since to compell men to sin is intrinsecally sinfull let Libertines answer the query if God ever in Old or New Testament could command sin or if there was ever such a thing heard that a Magistrate might by his office command men to sin or then punish them 9. Let Libertines answer if Arminians extend not liberty of prophesying as farre as mens lusts can carry them in these words But to suffer every man say they to 〈◊〉 publickly in Religion every thing i● perilous Why for either that which 〈◊〉 asserteth is true or false if it be true why admit we is not why doe we imprison the Author thereof this injury reflects upon God the Author of truth if it be false the truth shall easily overcome ●●ar of it self it shall melt like was before the Sunne if ye offer violence 〈◊〉 it yee strip Religion of its glory and furnish oyle to err●●● Whether is not reason as strong to refute errours fundamentall as non-fundamentall whether if ye offer violence to truth in fundamentalls as well as in non-fundamentalls yee strippe Religion and truth of its glory and furnish oyle to errour They goe on and tell us Wee need not ever bee in learning these that are clearely determined in the word for they are cleare open and of undoubled truths in the Scripture in other points not fundamentall a Christian is ever a disciple and a searcher not that he doth ever doubt and hesitate but because though for the present he neither doubt nor hath cause of doubting yet can he not be sure of these points with such a certitude which is free of all danger of errour and therefore he is often to examine these according to the rule that cannot erre and so it is enough before God that he may be said ever to learne and to come to the knowledge of the truth as far as frailty in this life can permit Answ 1. There is then no stability of faith but in two or three points in which all Papists Latherans Anti●●ni●ar●ans Arrians Socinians Libertines Familists Sabellians Nestorians Macedonians Arminians Antinomians Seekers F●thystasts Anabaptists c. agree and make one true Church beleeving what is necessary for salvation and holding the foundation Christ and we have no divine faith of the miracles that Christ wrought that the old world perished with waters which God speakes as clearly in the word as he doth fundamentalls But Libertines should distinguish the formall reason of beleeving truths which breedeth an obligation and the necessity of beleeving for the one onely
and perswasion nor yet in no faith in no perswasion And Augustine tells us the Donatists objected the same God compelleth none but hath given men freewill to obey him contr petil l. 2. c. 83. Epist 48. ad vincention Contr. Gaudenti●● l. 1. c. 25 Contr. Cresc l. 3. c. 51. which I often re-minde the Reader of and the Donatists also said this compulsion makes hypocrites when they are compelled to goe to heare the word Augustine answers Although some that are compelled to beare remain hypocrites and counterfeit yet for these such as are sincere should not have been left ungathered in And for that of Gods calling to repentance he is but an ignorant senselesse man who wrote that booke The Spirit waits saith hee and violates not liberty If the meaning bee the Lord is long-suffering and patient and lets men goe on in their sins and in his owne time effectually calleth them this is a senselesse sense for God waits not on one out of his longanimity and forbearance lest he should force freewill for the freewill is ever alike impotent rebellious and refractory till God subdue it if the meaning be as another sense it cannot have The Spirit waites and violates not liberty that is the Spirit waites untill freewill be in a good blood and a congruous disposition to obey and then the Spirit for feare of forcing of it if he should come on it undexterously to worke it against the haire catcheth the opportunity when he sees it is not on a straine of rebellion and in a distemper and then he drawes the freewill without force the man I judge is innocent and uncapable of this schoolheresie of late Jesuits who devise a Pelagian congruous calling and this were nothing to the purpose and should neither have head nor feet to the matter in hand for the Spirit who can carry freewill though most rebelliously distempered his way is not afraid of freewills contradictorious opposing but can in every moment subdue freewill without forcing he never waites on for such a matter except there bee a time when freewill is to hard a party for the Spirit to yoake withall or when nature or some preparatory grace makes it easier for the Spirit to conquiesse consent at one time more then another 2. Gods not forcing of freewill is no rule to the Magistrate not to awe men to abstaine from perverting of soules for fear of the sword for by the same reason because Gods Spirit moves the Saints to be subject to every ordinance of 〈◊〉 Judge or good Law for the Lords sake and for conscience for hee must obey this Rom. 13. 5. 1 Pet. 2. 13. and the Spirit compells not in these more then in the others so this argument God must worke faith give repentance and make a willing people ergo the Christian Magistrate cannot with his authority doe it is all granted This is but a very rotten rush a straw Entbysiasts so argue God teacheth sufficiently ergo the Scriptu●● and ministery of men are not requisite the discipline of the godly Magistrate cannot ascend so high as to have influence on the conscience and beget faith no more then the preaching of the word by the Ministers of the Gospel without the 〈◊〉 ergo the godly Magistrate cannot with the sword keepe the externall man in outward obedience to Gospel-ordinances it in no sort can can be a good consequence nor is it good divinity to say with Pelagians and Arminians that the calling of God extends no further then to arguments perswasions intreaties and threatnings for the calling of God extendeth further then to so much as man can doe in calling of sinners to repentance but men can act upon the minde will and reasonable soule by arguments perswasions intreaties and threatnings for all that is done by the Ministery of men But in effectuall calling of which we here speake it is certaine the Lord infuseth a new heart a new spirit 〈◊〉 efficaciously to the Son which is a further and higher 〈◊〉 of omnipotencies calling and drawing then all the morall perswasion by arguments intreaties and threatnings performable by men or Angels so this man is either an ignorant or a grosse Arminian Now from all this it is easie to expound that character which the Holy Ghost putteth upon the hereticke Tit. 3. 10. he is judged or condemned of himselfe that is the truth is so clearely opened to him or he may if he did not wincke and shut his eyes clearely see and beleeve the truth if he did not knowingly prudently and willingly resist the truth and therefore is condemned by his owne heart But Minus Celsus saith the words carry a farre other sense to wit That by sinning he is the authour of his 〈◊〉 condemnation because in chusing true Religion be thinkes he both made a right choice when he hath chosen a false Religion being deceived by his owne judgement he falleth into damnation which miserable man he hath created to himselfe and in which he chuseth to persist and therefore is to be esehewed So it is said the Jews judged themselves unworthy of eternall life but knowingly they judged not so of themselves but they did so behave themselves as if they made themselves unworthy of eternall life So I beleeve the hereticke is called selfe-condemned because he doth those things that renders himselfe worthy of damnation So Castalio or he is selfe-condemned that is he is damned though there were none to condemne him but himselfe So Erasmus Answ He is selfe-condemned who may be condemned by his owne conscience though for the present the conscience be burnt with a hot iron and the man will not permit it to summon accuse condemne no lesse then hee who is actually condemned of his conscience for it is a laudable act and a naturall vertue of the conscience to give sentence against a heresie when it ought so to doe as it is a vice of the conscience to be dumbe at heresies but if he love the truth though he cannot actually condemne the heresie hee is not selfe-condemned The hereticke saith Celsus is an innocent man and is not such a man as sins against light nor maliciously nor with an ill conscience nor is his end gaine pleasure nor an ambitious lusting after a name hee seeth none of these are attaineable yea it is his desire of life eternall and his ●eale that setteth him on worke and rather or he dishonour God and deny the knowne truth and sin against his conscience he had rather chuse torment and dye a martyr and drinke that direfull and bitter cup of death which was so terrible to Jesus Christ that it caused him to fall to the earth sweat blood and water So he fol. 14 15 16. which if it be true an hereticke is rather an innocent Angell then a guilty man condemned of his owne conscience Yet Minus C●lsus saith here he behaveth himselfe as one worthy of damnation and damned though none but himselfe
these words that thou knowest not are the words of the Holy Ghost not that these Seduce●s so speake in so many syllables but the God they drew men after was an unknowne God for there is not a Caligula in the world can be a speculative and heart-Atheist or if these words whom thou ●ast not knowne be the Seducers they are spoken to heighten the new God and ex●●●● 〈◊〉 above Jehovah as not knowne by the blinde and ignora●● world yea and those that worshipped the golden Calves at Dan and Bethel worshipped other Gods and turned away themselves and others from the true God for Deut. 32. 16. They provoked him to jealousie with strange God with abomination● provoked they him to anger 17. They sacrificed un●●●evills not 〈◊〉 G●d to Gods whom they know not to new Gods that newly come up w●om your fathers feared not 2 Chron. 11. 17. and Je●o●●am ordained himselfe Priests for the high places and for the devils and for the calves which he had made Psal 106. 19. They made a calfe in Hor●● and worshipped a molten image yet they denyed not God the Creator except practically Deut. 32. 18. Of the rocke that begat thee thou art unmindfull and hast forgotten God that formed t●ee Psal 106. 21. They forg●t God their Saviour which ●ad done great things in Aegypt Yea and those that worshipped these Gods denyed no otherwise God the Creator then hereticks now doe for both in profession asser● Jehova● that made the heaven and the earth Exod. 32. they said of these calves as Jeroboam did v. 8. These be thy Gods O Israe● that brought thee up out of the Land of Aegypt 1 King 12. 28. and Exod. 32. 5. Aaron said to morrow shall be a feast to Jehovah then they denyed not in profession and in words the Jehovah that made them nor Christ their Saviour then by signes and wonders brought them out of Aegypt so a Hereticke or a Popish Idolater denyes not God in profession yet both worship strange Gods and the worke of mens hands and the devill not God Deut. 32. 16. 2 Chro. 11. 15. Nor did Jeroboam deny God in profession for he acknowledged that the Lord God the true God could heale his dryed up arme 1 King 12. 6. and sent his wife to enquire of Jehovah concerning his sicke childe 1 King 14. 1 2. and Je●u who clave to Jeroboams calves 2 King 10. 29. And so by this same law of God ought to dye as is clear in that he worshipped and served other Gods as Deut. 32. 16. Ps 106. 19. compared with Exod. 32. cleareth for three thousand were slaine by the Magistrates sword for this sin Exod. 32. 27 28. yet these denyed Jehovah not in formall and expresse profession but by the genius and staine of their doctrine and the same way the Hereticke denyes the Lord that bought them these that worshipped Iehovah and Malcom Zeph. 1. by this law should dye the Priests of Malcom come under the law as well as the Priests of Baal the Priests of Baal and the false Prophets were slaine according to the law and yet they professed Jehovah as well as Micaiah 1 King 22. 24. and Achab who worshipped Baal professed he worshipped Jehovah and so did these who worshipped the Samaritan strange Gods and I●hovah both together 2 King 17. Nor is it of weight that some say from Deut. 13. onely these are to be put to death who denyes God as knowne by the light of Nature not these that de●y the blessed Trinity or Christ the Mediator or the principles of the Gospel which are only known by the supernaturall light of faith and onely these that deny principles of Divinity that are by natures teaching in the heart for these sinne against Natures law and the Alphabet of naturall Theology This hath no warrant in the word the Law condemnes these to dye who blaspheme or draw men away from the true God as revealed in the Scriptures which is a supernaturall Revelation that flesh and blood taught not Moses but a Propheticall and ●mmediately inspiring Spirit as the reason which God ins●uateth Exod. 32. 8. They have turned quickly aside out of the way that I commanded them Now the twilight and rude divinity of Nature revealed not this way as being supernaturall yet for this turning aside were three thousand killed v. 27 28. And it is cleare Deut. 13. the dreamer shall surely bee put to death not because he hath denyed the Creat or that is knowne by the light of nature but v. 5. because he hath spoken to turne you away from the Lord your God which brought you out of the Land of Aegypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walke in Now this is not I conceive a naturall way nor written in mans heart by nature as this answer supposeth But yet it s also a sinne against the law of nature to deny the God who reveals himselfe in the Mediator Christ And these that were put to death by this law were such as denied God revealed in Christ for Christ saith Moses wrote of mee and to Christ all the Law and the Prophets bare witnesse 2 Nor did these that worshiped Idols and the false teachers and such as offered their children to Molech who were surely by the Law to be put to death deny the word of God more then the Heretick now and Jeremiah useth the weapon of the word of God against them as Moses was to use the sword against them Deut 17. 3 4 5 6. Lev. 20. 2. as we read Jer. 7. 13. And they have built the high places of Tophee which is in the vally of the sonne of Hinnon to ●urne their sonnes and their daughters in the fire and he useth an argument from the word of God to convince them which I commanded them not neither entred it in my heart Libertines might say why should Jeremiah speake of a command of God for though our Hereticks under the Gospell acknowledge the word of God yet the false teachers and Apostates that were to dye by the law doe but mocke the word of God and therefore the Lord should not use this argument which I command not But to mee is cleare they were so farre from denying the word of God as our Antiscripturists doe that for the offering of their sonnes to God they alledged both Abrahams example who was bidden offer Isaak his onely sonne to God and the Scripture for if we say they are to offer the best of the flock to God and its little enough to so great 〈◊〉 Lord farre more are we to offer the dearest thing we have to wi● our sonnes and daughters God answers What yee offer to mee must be commanded in my law but it never entred into my heart to bid you offer your children to mee Now if these had both denyed God their Creator and his word there had beene no other sword
to be drawne against them but that of iron 3 How will Libertines prove that the second sort of seducers that were to dye for seducing Deut. 13. 6 7 8. the brother son daughter or wife that lyes in the bosome denyed God the Creator there is no warrant from the text to say they dreamed dreames and wrought wonders to seduce or that they professed the inspiration of a new Deity yet they were to dye and why not the Hereticks now by the same reason If they thrust people away from the Lord that hath ransomed them from Hell Yea 4 These acknowledge the Lord and the law and the Lords Priests and Prophets as some Hereticks doe now yet not standing to the sentence of the law that the Priest shall ●each but presumptuously rejecting it were surely to be put to death Deut. 17. 10 11 12 13. So he that speaks a word in the name of the Lord so confesseth and professeth both the Lord and his word as hereticks now do which the Lord commanded him not to speak or shal speak in the name of other Gods even that Prophet shall dye And did not Jeremiah and Vriah the son of Shemaiah and the Prophets that were killed and s●oned by the Jewes professed God and that the word of God came to them and that they had seen the visions of God yet they were condemned as false Prophets but for prophesying destruction on Israel Judah and Jerusalem and if the Lord had not sent them but they speake the visions of their owne head they had been false prophets as is cleare Jer. 14. 13 14. Jer. 23. 15 16. and so justly condemned 5 Are there not now under the New Testament who deny the word of God as many Antiscripturists in England and doth not Saltmarsh Del Beacon Randal and many Familists and Antinomians father their new lies upon the spirit and the pretious anoynting that teacheth all things a●● not they like to those Prophets Deut. 13 have not some in France in Holland in England made defection to Judaisme and Tur●isme and turned Apostates from Christ And yet they deny not God the Creator nor the Scriptures of the old Testament and by this answer they are free of all bodily punishment And does not Peter contradict this answer of Libertines that say our Hereticks are not as these Deut. 13. 2 Pet. 2. 1. But there were false Prophets also among the people as there shall be false teachers among you and our Saviour Mat. 24. 24. For there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets and shall shew great signes and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they should deceive the very elect A vive representation of the state of England this day 6 The formall and what is essentiall to a false prophet is now in our seducers they thrust men away from God and the way of Gospell that the Lord hath commanded us to walke in ●nd that is enough 7. From the practice of the Iewes when Heretickes and Seducers and blinde guides were in the chair and they tollerated themselves we draw rather the contrary argument ergo we are not to follow nor to suffer blinde guides now who deny the resurrection as Familists and other to lead souls into the ditch no more then we are to follow them in corrupting the Law and extolling the traditions of men CHAP. XV. Christs not rebuking tolleration and the ●aw Deut. 13. vindicated CHrists no when reproving Church and State for not punishing Sadduces and Hereticks denying the resurrection is 1. A poore argument to prove the lawfulnesse of tolerating them 1. The Sadduces were cheife Rulers themselves Act. 23. 6. And he that reproves a Judge for murther must in that same reprove him for tolerating murthers He that said the guide leading the blind led should fal in the ditch he reproved the mis-government and wicked toleration of the Rulers Nor read we that Elias reproved Achab for not killing Baals priests ergo Achab transgressed not the Law Deut. 13. 1 2 3. Deut. 17. 1 2 3. in tolerating false teachers Nor doth God Deut. 32. 6 7 8. reprove the Rulers for not punishing the worshiping of the golden calf or the making of it for worship because Aaron and the Rulers under Moses were guilty of it will it follow that the Rulers and the sonnes of Levi should tolerate it since the Lord commanded the contrary Nor does the man of God reprove Jeroboam for tollerating the people to worship the golden calves or because he suffered the lowest of the people to intrude themselves in the priests office against the word and law of the Lord because the lesse sin was swallowed up in the greater but it followes not that Jeroboam did the duty of a Magistrate in suffering the people to go to Dan and Bethel to such abominable Idolatry or in suffering the basest of the people to take on●them the Priests Office but the Prophets reproving Jeroboam's commanding of that Idolatrous worship and Priests which is a greater sinne must by consequence condemne his not punishing of it which is a lesse sin so David sinned as a Magistrate in suffering Bathshe●a to commit adultery and to wrong her husband and to violate Gods Law and should not onely as a Magistate have hindered her but should have put her to death for adultery he being the supreme Magistrate and there being an expresse Law of God that the adulterer man or woman should dye the death Levit. 20. 10. which David knew well yet the Prophet Nathan does not in expresse tearms condemne David for not putting Bathsheba to death though he faithfully reproved David because Nathan reproving David for the adultery it selfe committed in his owne person as the greater sinne must by consequence condemne Davids tollerating of Bathsheba an adulteresse to live which was a lesser sinne and it will not follow that David a King should tollerate knowne adultery in Bathsheba a subject because Nathan does no where in direct tearms nor any Scripture elsewhere that we read condemne David for not punishing with the sword the adultery of Bathsheba so Nathan G●d and other Prophets no where reprove David sparing the life of Joab a murtherer When Christ reproved the Sadduces for denying the resurrection he reproves by consequence both Church and State for tollerating the denying of the Resurrection and supposeth the tolleration of it to be against the law of God 2. It is no argument at all from 1. A negative fact 2. In such a particular Scripture to prove the lawfulnesse of tolleration Let then answer this Christ that was a faithfull Preacher to State and Church no where reproveth in the Gospell the tolleration of the extortion of Publicans Sodomie murther the absolving of a murtherer at the feast a bloody tolleration denying of God blasphemy ergo it was lawfull for the Church and State to suffer all these 3. This answer inferreth that the Church should tollerate all false doctrines and the denying of the resurrection
excommunicating and so Ecclesiasticall plucking up and the sword must go and sleepe but the sense of let them grow is Why doe ye quarrell at the wisdome and providence of the Lord of the field that he suffers the children of the devill to flourish and whereas the servants say 28. wilt thou then that we go and ●ather them up It is a parable and this part not being exponed can yeeld no new doctrine and the most can be is Lord give us a providence of our owne and a power not to leave one son of that wicked one in the earth we shal make a clean field to our Lord rather then suffer them thus to suffocate and corrupt the wheat The Lords answer is I have ordained rather then such a providence be committed to you that the ●ares should grow till harvest though the Lord have appointed a way how to purge leaven out of the Church 1 Cor. 5. 1. Mat. 1● 15 16. and how evill doers shal be ●ut off Rom. 13. though not in so strict and accurate a way as we dreame who would not have one thistle in our Lords field Yea would not suffer one sin to be in the world as wee dreame if we could hinder it though God seeth a permitting providence to be more glorious But saith Celsus if the Lord understand by tares thefts adulteries robberies extortion he would not have used the metaphor of tares but of briars thornes nettles hemlocks or the like th●● are easily discerned from wheat whereas tares are like wheat Answ Wee will not take on us to teach our Saviour to speake we answer The Lord understands whatever wickednesse cannot be punished without ●●rt to the godly and that hereticks and Idolaters may be knowne by ordinary Christians as well as robbers and theeves by Magistrates the Holy Ghost teacheth when he hiddeth us not eat with them but reject and avoid them and judge them accursed Gal. 1. 8. 1 Cor. 5. 11. and forbiddeth us to receive them into our house Tit. 3. 10. 2 Jo● 10. Now if they cannot bee discerned he should bid us eat converse with them lodge them blesse them till the harvest come and also theeves and robbers are as undiscernable under the notion of theeves so are murtherers adulterers plotters of treason for all these have such shifts and coverings that it is hard for the Judge to plucke them up and as hard in the matter of fact and more then to know who are heretickes now heresie is knowne to be a worke of the flesh no lesse then witchcraft but to finde out who is the hereticke and what is heresie the Holy Ghost supposeth it to be feazeable else he could not bid us avoid them and judge them accursed but by this exposition because there is danger that we judge them accursed whom God hath blessed private Christians should no more judge them cursed the● publicke Magistrates but both should lodge them in their hearts in the state in their houses blesse them till the harvest Yea and Minus Celsus and other Libertines speake against the Holy Ghost so why shall ye judge a false teacher and a hereticke to be accursed should you reject and avoid him and deny him lodging for he is not a thiefe a robber or a murtherer nor sinnes he against the light of nature nor is he seduced by Sathan but to be pitied yea he is innocent and godly and so pious that ere he sinne against the word and his owne conscience he had rather be forsaken cast out of our houses and so not to be rebuked contrary to Tit. ● 13. Celsus by plucking up must be meant killing as an her be withers when plucked up by the roots but when one is excommunicated bee dyes not Answ Plucking up is a metaphor and when an hereticke is pulled out of the gates and courts of the Lords house the Church of God and casten out of the society of the godly and cursed by them Gal. 1. 8. and they pray against him and in faith avoid him and ●●l fellowship with him hee must Ecclesiastically dye and wither if Gods ordinance be not blessed to recover him and plucking up is as well a removing of him out of that condition and place as any other thing By the field Christ understands the world Celsus saith the whole is put for the part the world in which that seed of the word of the Gospel is sowne and that is the Church for the Gospel is but heard in a small part of the world But when did Christ sow the good seed of the Gospel first happily when Christ himselfe first preached the Gospel or rather when the old impostor Sathan first dece●●ed our first parents but if so then the Serpent did not immediately after ●ow tares for they were long agoe sowne and the ●eed was then growne into range growing corne and there was no need of his ●owing but of his further manuring of it but this seed is sowne with every new act of preaching of the Gospel so this parable cannot agree to the parable of the draw-net in which there be both good and ill fish now good and ill fish had their first breeding in the water since the beginning not agreeth it for the same cause with the parable of wheat and cha●●e which hath ever been in the world whereas the tares are sowne upon a new occasion of preaching the Gospel Answ There be nothing here but vain and forced conjectures Christ expounds the wheat of the children of the Kingdome Celsus of the doctrine of the Gospel Christ makes the field the world Celsus makes the field the Church and when he hath fancied these dreames contrary to Christs exposition he goes to the time when the Gospel was first preached which hath nothing to doe with the text for when God made men good Sathan came and sowed tares and corrupted men and turned them into Apostates from God And ever since the beginning in the world there hath been a mixture of cha●●e and corne fishes good and bad and of the children of God and children of Sathan and the Saints must let both grow till harvest that is they must not stumble nor murmure at God but submit to his wisdome who will have this mixture till the last separation of men for heaven and the barne of the great husbandman for hell and the furnace in which all things that offend are casten 2. For the time of sowing wheat and tares it hath beene from the beginning since there was a field that is a world and the parable that speakes of sowing wheat and the envious mans sowing of tares immediately after is but borrowed from men as the sleeping of a husbandman which may as soone prove that he that watcheth over Israel doth both slumber and sleep and that the sowing of tares and of the sonnes of Sathan in the world is as much without the foreknowledge counsell and providence of God as the husbandman is ignorant
blaspheme murther betray and destroy the Saints and the innocent among which they live but according to their places they are to punish and hinder and impede the growing of tares but withall they are not impatiently to grudge and censure providence but to let them alone that is to let God alone and suffer him in that admirable disposall of affaires though wicked men be not fully purged out of Church and State till harvest and here is an argument to me that by the tares Christ must not meane corrupt doctrines but wicked men for it is a frigid and vaine interpretation to ascribe to our Saviour such a sense that he must suffer heresies till the harvest and when the harvest is come hee must send his Angells to gather heresies and binde them in a bundle and cast them into hell and so must he gather sound doctrines upon the same ground and send them to heaven whereas the words clearly beare that they be persons that doe offend and worke inquity that the Lord thus judgeth at the end of the world nor is the conceit of Celsus of worth that by a figure he understands by tares hereticks that are horne of corrupt doctrine for then Celsus shall first have no ground from the former Parable to expound the seed to be the word and the tares to be corrupt doctrine for then these words a certaine s●wer went to sow seed and as he sowed some fell by the side must have this sense if Celsus make this parable to agree with that in the signification of the word seed that the preacher of the Gospel went forth to sow seed that is to sow true and false teachers and some seed that is some false teachers fell upon the 〈◊〉 side c. which is non-sense 2 It is against the justice of God that Hereticks since they but simply erre and are innocent holy and so feare God that they had rather suffer torment and burning quicke and are commiseratione digni as say the Belgick Arminians Celsus and other Libertines should be for meer innocency and godlinesse gathered by the Angels in the harvest of the world and casten into the fire and furnace of everlasting vengeance I grant out of imitation of the fathers and particularly of Augustine who retracted his opinion touching hereticks and the coercing of them Divines use this expression hereseon zizania tares of heresie but aluding to rather then expounding the parable Celsus fol. 52. 53 Magistrates correcting faults doe not purge the Church of tares but punish the hai●ous crimes of wicked men and though ill doers repent and confesse their errour yet the Magistrates doe punish but if hereticks abjure their false doctrine the Magistrate pardons them Answ Nor do we expound the field to be the Church with Celsus but like better to follow our Saviour who expoundeth it to be the world and so the Magistrates punisheth societies 2 Nor is it inconvenient that the Churches nurse-father purge the Church in a politick way as his place may bear 3 It is true some crimes as murther the Magistrates punish with death and is to accept of no satisfaction Num. 35. 30. 31. because the taking away lif● It among things that cannot be repaired but it is not universally true in all cases that the Magistrate is not to forgive if the guilty man repent And though we could not determin that case of conscience whether the Magistrate should punish a blasphemer and a false teacher if he repent yet it follows not that he should not be punished who willfully goes on And the reason why hereticks repenting are to be pardoned by the Magistrates is because obstinatious persisting in an heresies makes a man an heretick punishable by death but if a blasphemer have perverted many soules and have presumptuously dishonoured the Majesty of God to me it is a question if the Magistrates ought to pardon him and though he be not put to death it is sure he ought by the Magistrate to be punished which is the thing we prove now Celsus Tares may bee turned into wheat and converted if the man bee killed hee is gone and past recovery Hereticks doth no ill but good to the wheate hee lives saith Augustine that either hee may repent or that a good man may bee exercised by him Some say variety of opinions in Religion are expressions of divine wisdome Answ A murtherer may be converted as well as a heretick and is nearer conversion then a man of a corrupt mind and a heretick that is to be rejected and no more taught and admonished as concerning the faith he is reprobate Tit. 3. 10. 1 Tim. 3. 5. 2 Nor doth he good to a beleever but as a gangreene and a pest to a wholesome body 3 And if he doe Good and be an expression of the wisdome of God by being an heretick why is he as chaffe casten in unquenchable fire as Libertines expound the Parable 4 If he should live that he may exercise the faith and patience of the Saints then should not the Kings of the earth burne the flesh of the whore nor the Magistrate take vengeance on murtherers for the faith and patience of the Saints is seen in their oppressions but no thanks to oppressors if hereticks must not be killed why did Mu●cer Becold and our Anabaptists now in armes and having no enemy kill all the godly because they judge them wicked should they not be letter grow till the last harvest also CHAP. XXI Of the Samaritans and of no compelling of Heathens How the Covenant bindeth us LIbertines alledge Luke 9. 51 52 53. c. When Christ by a village of the Samaritans was rejected and denied lodging James and John say Lord wilt thou that we command 〈◊〉 come downe from heaven and consume them even as 〈◊〉 did But Christ rebuked them and said yee know not what manner of spirit yee are of for the Son of man is not come to destroy mens lives but to save them Then are we to spare the lives of those that refuse the true and sound doctrine of the Gospel yea who oppugne it and to admonish them Celsus saith this example is not proposed to compare the Samaritans with hereticks or the Apostles with the Ministers and the Magistrate but that the benigne and meeke engine of Christ in matters of Religion may be cleare and that we should abhorre cruelty in matters of Religion for if the Apostles had moved the same question touching heretickes at that time Christ would have given the same answer The Holland Arminians say if Christ suffered not his Disciples to conceive a desire of revenge from heaven from the onely love and zeale of Religion against the Samaritans that denyed lodging to him farre lesse must we beleeve that he will suffer that in matters of Religion for meere conscience any manifest violence should be exercised for Christ saith the spirit that leads you is raging vehement fiery the
nor can an English Judge as a Judge judge of transporting of wines out of France or of crying down or up the worth of Monies within Scotland only the judges of France can and ought to judge of the former and that not as Judges simply but as ●●th Judges of France and only the Judges of Scotland as they are such can judge of crying up or down monies in Scotland and upon the same ground Judges as Judges are not nor ought they as Judges to determine what Gospel truths are praise-worthy in order to civill rewards and what Gospel heresies are punishable for of these they are to determine judicially as such judges as Christian Judges who are hearers of the Gospel Though Christianitie adde nothing to the essence of a judge as a judge yet Christianity addeth something to the being and authoritative power of such a judge a Christian a Scottish an English judge this remaineth then true of a judge What a Judge doth as a Judge that all Judges may do for quod convenit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 convenit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but what such a judge doth as such a judge as Christian as Scottish as English that all judges may not nor cannot doe So a Christian husband father master as Christian is to give Christian Counsels and instructions to his wife children servant but it followes not that all husbands all fathers all masters though heathenish and Pagan though they never head of Christ are to give Christian counsells and 〈…〉 to the principles of the Gospel to their wives sons servants So the Christian Prince not as a Prince simply but as a Christian Prince is to confer his royall authority in a politick and co-active way to promote the Mediatory Kingdome of Christ which all judges on earth are not to doe for these Judges only Psal 2. are to kisse the Son who hear the decree published Thou art my Son Psal 2. 6. for a Law never pro●●●gated neither by heart ingraving neither by minister all publication can oblige no man as is cleer Rom. ● 12. Rom. 10 14 15. and 5. 13. Joh. ●5 22. Matth. 11. 2● 23 24. Yet shall it not follow that the Christian Judge is a sub-mediator under Christ and subordinate as a Vice-gerent to the M●diator for the christian Magistrate does not promote Christs Kingdome as the Minister of Christ or as representing Christs person for the Christian Magistrate is the Minister of God and the Vice-gerent of God now God as the Soveraign Lord hath a co-active power overall the Magistrate Heathen or Christian is his Vicegerent and the Christian Ruler may compell with the Sword all to serve the Son yet the Son as Mediator whose kingdome is not of this world sends not men out to promote his Kingdome with the sword Joh. 18 36 37. Mr. Williams civill peace is pax civitatis the peace of the citie Jer. 29. 7. Pray for the peace of the Citie which peace of the citie or citizens so compacted in a civill way of union may be intire unbroken safe c. notwithstanding so many thousands of Gods people the Jewes ●●re there in bondage and would neither be constrained to the worship of the City of Babell nor restrained from so much of the worship of the true God as they 〈◊〉 practise as is plain in Shadrach Mosha●● and Abedaego Daniel 3. in Daniel c. 6. who would rather suffer then de●ist from true worship or practice fals● So the 〈…〉 Papists keep the peace of their Townes and Cities safe and distinct where there is no spirituall and heavenly peace Answ All this is to prove that there may be no breach of Citie peace or civill peace where there are 〈◊〉 of sundry Religions But 1. the mans should remember there is a Christian externall peace which 〈◊〉 an 〈◊〉 providence can not be kept where there be divers Religions and sundry waies of worshipping Christ we beleeve our Saviour intendeth so much Mat. 10. 34. Thinke not that I am come to send peace 〈◊〉 earth I came not to send peace but the sword v. 35. For. I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against h●r mother Luke 21. 16. And ye shall be be●r dyed ●oth by your parents brethren kinsfolks and friends and some of you they shall cause to be put to death And what is the quarrell but divers Religions and waies of worship about Christ So Paul exhorteth to Christian peace Ephes 4. 3. Indeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace not because of contrary Religions and many Sectaries called the holy partie that are to bee tolerated in meeknesse and mutuall forbearance But v. 5. Because there is but one Lord one faith one baptisme and but one Religion whether Presbyteriall or Independent and since the Apostles and Christ in the New-Testament so often recommend peace and never once insinuate forbearance in diversitie of Religion and all the Apostles and Apostolike Church had but one Religion toleration of many Religions not being a part of the New Testament liberty where with Christ hath made us free as is the libertie from Ceremonies and righteousness by the Law that the foolish Galathians affected Gal. 5. 1 2 We conclude there is a Law against Toleration of many Religions not any repealing of that Law in the New Testament but divers Religions expressely forbidden as contrary to peace and foretold to fall out as sad judgements Mat. 19. 35. Mat. 24 24 Luke 21. 14. 15 16 17 18. 1 Tim. 4. 1 2 3 4. 2 Tim. 3. 5 6 7. 8. 2 Joh. 10. Affirmanti incumbit probatio Our Adversaries are obliged to give us precept promise or godly practice why a morall sin forbidden and severely punished in the old Testament should yet remaine a Moral sin in the New Testament and yet not be punishable by men or Churches yea Solomous toleration of the Idolatrous worship 1 Kings 11. provoked the Lord to anger yet his wives consciences should not have been compelled to leave off the worshipping of the Gods of the Moabites Ammonites by this way Rom. 14. 19. Let us follow after the thing that makes for peace saith Paul but Toleration of many Religions is contrary to peace if one of them be the only true way the rest are all false waies the mixture of the two contrary seeds the seed of the Serpent and the seed of the woman must be against peace and Paul exhorting to union and Christian peace thinks many Religions many Sects and opinions tolerated 1 Cor. 1. 10. to be just contrary to peace Now I beseech you brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no divisions among you but that ye be perfectly joyned together in the same minde and in the same judgement Hence he seriously dehorts from Schismes and Sects whereas upon supposition of divers Sects all being godly we should have
some charitable precepts commanding men of divers Religions to beare with one another but where is that written and if they dwell together peaceably why but they may marry together Achab then in marrying the King of the Zidonians daughter failed not and he married her wicked Religion Clotildis the daughter of Clodoveus married Almaricus the Arrian King of the Wisigots the Maid being educated in the sound faith but Procopius l. 1. Bell. Gothorum said there was never peace between them As for Mr. Williams Chaldean and Heathenish or American peace we leave it to himself the peace the people of God was to pray for Jer. 29. was onely outward prosperity freedome from the Sword of Egypt and from other Nations that the captive Church might also partake of that peace But I hope Jeremiah bad not the people of God in Judea under the Babylonish captivity follow an Heathenish peace with toleration of divers Religions or yet a Religious peace or a Church peace that standeth well with many Religions yea they are to denounce wrath against the Chaldee Religion Jer. 10. 11. and would he have Christians all keeping such an Heathenish unity and peace as Babylonians and Americans have and in the mean time tolerate all Religions Christians who have one God and one faith and one hope are to follow more then a Civill and Heathenish peace It is therefore in vaine for Libertines to tell us that Abraham lived long amongst the Canaanites who were contrary to him in Religion Gen. 13. and Isaac with them Gen. 26. and Jacob twenty years with Laban an Idolater Gen. 31. Israel in Egypt 430 years in Babylon 70. Israel under the Romans with Herodians Pharisees What of all these the godly Rulers and Church sometimes Pilgrims sometimes servants sometimes captives never having the Sword nor power of it as Magistrates to take order with false Teachers did peaceably dwell with them ergo godly Magistrates armed with the Sword must now suffer the Sheep of Christ to be worried and preyed upon by Wolves this consequence is nothing this is à facto adjus and to argue from the controverted practice of Heathen CHAP. XXVI Whether punishing of Seducing Teachers be persecution for Conscience LIbertines lay downe for a ground That to punish any for their conscience must be persecution Anninians call punishing of Hereticks persecution it is proper to carnall men to persecute the Children of the Promise He that is sick onely of an errour of the minde breaks not the Law of God If the Magistrate punish him for that he is a Persecuter So also the Anabaptists in Bullingers time Mr. Williams going after these guides saith I acknowledge that to molest any person Jew or Gentile for either professing doctrine or practising worship meerly Religious or Spirituall is to presecute him and such a person what ever his doctrine be true or false suffereth for his conscience and beside a man may be persecuted because he holdeth or practiseth what he beleeves in conscience to be truth as Daniel and because he dare not yeeld obedience to doctrines and worships invented by men and so the Authour of Storming of the Anti. and of the Ancient bounds Answ The very like the Donatists objected so Cresconius Grammaticeus Quisquis Christianum persequitur Christi inimicus est whoever persecutes a Christian is an enemy of Christ Augus l. 3. contra a Cresconium c. 51. answereth Verum dicis ●● non in illo persequitur quod Christi est inimicum neque enim Dominus in servo pater in filio maritus in conjuge cum sine utrique Christiani non debent persequi vitia Cbristianae contraria veritati an vero si non persequuntur non rei negligentiae merito teneluntur It is true saith he He is an Enemy to Christ who persecuteth a Christian if he doe not persecute in a Christian that which is enmity to Christ yet are not the master father husband not to persecute in servant son and wife if they be Christians sinnes contrary to Christian truth and if they persecute not these sinnes are they not justly guilty of the negligence of their brethrens soules So also Augustine distinguisheth a two fold persecution de unit Eccl. c. 20 Psal 100. Had these men given us one letter of Scripture for their bastard definition of persecution we should not stumble to heare Tongue-persecuters and Raylers and Hand-persecuters say so but we goe from them to our Saviours words Matth. 5. 12. Blessed are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evill against you not for an erroneous and bloody conscience as Libertines define it but falsely for my sake Persecution that the Scripture condemnes is persecution for righteousnesse ●●d truth such as the true Prophets suffered for the truth Matth. 5. 12. for Christs names sake Luke 21. 17. Matth. 19. 29. for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Rev. 1. 9. Rev. 6. 9. for the testimony of the trutb Rev 11. 7. for righteousnesse Matth. 5. 10. for the Gospel Mark 4. 17. Acts 12. 25. Acts 13. 50. Gal. 5. 11. Gal. 6. 12. 2 Tim. 3. 12. Mark 10. 30. 2 Cor. 12. 10. 2. Thess 1. 2. Tim 3 11. Matth. 10 23. Joh. 5. 16. Joh. 15. 20. Rom. 12. 14. Acts 7. 52. 1 Cor 4 11. Gal. 1. 13. 1 Thess 2. 15. Acts 9. 4. Acts 22. 7. c. 26. 14. Phil. 2. 6. And why was Jeremiah persecuted the three Children Daniel Christ Paul Peter John James the Martyrs Heb. 11. not for Familisme Antinomianisine Socinianisme Anabaptisme c. shew us a word of Old or New Testament warranting you to call it persecution to molest any for worship or practice though most false Mr. Williams saith to malest any for their conscience is persecution then must Jeremiah be a Persecuter for he molested those with rebukes and threatnings who out of meer conscience killed their sons and daughters to Malech Christ molested Pharisees and Sadduces who out of meer conscience defended the traditions of men false interpretations of the Law denied the Resurrection yea the Lord commanded the Judges in his Law not onely to molest but to stone to death without mercy those who professed doctrine out of meer conscience and practice worship upon meerly Religious grounds which tended to drive away people from the true God and such as blasphemed God Deut. 13. Exo. 32 26 27. Rom. 15. 1. 13. 4. Lev. 24. 10 11. Deut. 17. 2. Levit. 20. 2. But God never commanded in any Law persecution but hated it and no more commanded it then his holy Laws can be unjust 2. Asser There is a persecution with the tongue by words like coals of Juniper Psal 120. 2 3. and like the arrows of the mighty like a sharp razour Psal 52. 23. Job 19. 3. These ten times ye have reproached me and are not ashamed v. 21. Why doe ye persecute me as God Jobs friends never put hand
is over their heart and if it be injustice in the Magistrate to punish men for Errors which they cannot eschew can the righteous judge of the world punish them therefore Ergo In such Errors they are innocent and sin not and if this bee said what should hinder others to be saved by beleeving the contrary sense of the old Testament and the like may be said of the new Testament and so all Hereticks and Sectaries receiving the Scriptures as Pharisees Sadduces Herodians Papists Socinians c. shall be saved every man in his own Religion and the sense of this Eschew an Heretick to a Saint must be eschew the company of an heretick to another Saint it is Adhere to and converse with the same saint for he is no heretick but sound in the saith and it falsely supposed to be an Heretick and the Scripture upon this ground hath two contradictorie senses which being beleeved and practised must save and revealeth two contradictorie wills of God and every man may take Scripture as his minde apprehends it and whereas the Scripture makes it self the judge and determiner of all questions and controversies in religion This way leaves all questions to every mans conscience to the conscience of a Jew of a Turk of an American of a Papist the old Testament as expounded by a Jew is his Conscience the old and new Testament as the popish Church expound it is their rule of faith and the Scripture lifting up Christ and casting down Christ and speaking with a hundred divers and contrary tongues is every mans obliging rule and because there is no man infallible in taking up the right sense of the Scripture if yee controll the Jew or put him off his sense of the old Testament which yeelds him this faith Maries son is a false lying Prophet the Apostles and all the martyrs are but cousening Impostors yea domineer over the Conscience and force his faith because yee are not infallible ye may not condemn the way of any for yee know not but they be the wheat and you the t●res for ought that Scripture saith on either side Never man in this life is sure of his faith and salvation from Scripture and since the Jew may be wheat if ye would go to raze his faith you go to pluck up the wheat before the harvest and suppose we and all the Jewes were converted to the Christian faith and if we conceive Pauls prophecie concerning them Rom. 1● to be fulfilled they shall be converted yet 1. we are not infallible but live upon our fancies and conjectures touching the meaning of Rom. 11. say Libertines 2. Suppose the fulness of the Gentiles be converted to Christ and we among them and all the Jewes and that in our daies the earth be filled with the knowledge of the Lord and that all the sons of Zion be taught of God and that the wildernesse blossome as a rose and the light of the moon be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun be seven-fold as the light of seven daies and that all the glorious prophecies in Isaiah Zechariah and the rest be fulfilled in our daies yet by the doctrine of Libertines all these are but to us for any certaintie we have night fancies and dreames of crazie and feaver-sick heads For Master John Goodwin undeniably the learnedst and most godly man of that way hath said in a marginall note of men for piety and learning I cannot admire enough The Vindicators call the denying of Scriptures to be the word of God a damnable Heresie and we have no certainty that the Scriptures of the old and new Testament which we now have either the English translation or the Originall of Hebrew and Greek copies are the word of God So then holding the Scriptures to be the Word of God in either of these two senses or significations of the words either translations or originall can with no tolerable pretext or colour be called a foundation of Christian Religion unlesse their foundations be made of the credit learning and authoritie of men Because there is need to wonder by the way at this Let the reader observe that Libertines resolve all our faith and so the certaintie of our salvation on Paper and Inke and Mr. John Goodwin will allow us no foundation of faith but such as is made of grammers and Characters and if the Scripture be wrong pointed or the Printer drunke or if the translation slip then our faith is go●e Whereas the meanes of conveying the things beleeved may be fallible as writing printing translating speaking are all fallible meanes of conveying the truth of old and new Testament to us and yet the Word of GOD in that which is delivered to us is infallible 1. For let the Printer be fallible 2. The translation fallible 3. The Grammer fallible 4. The man that readeth the word or publisheth it fallible yet this hindreth not but the truth it self contained in the written word of God is infallible I suppose four men who shall shew to a wife her Husband among ten thousands all four fallible and may mistake yet when they have brought the Husband to the wife it cannot follow that the Wife doth not certainly and as infallibly know her own Husband by his tongue voice countenance proportion of body and statute as one can know another without any danger of mistake so it comes to the eares of a man born blind Joh. 9. there is a Prophet called Iesus the Son of Marie who will infallibly and indeclinably restore sight to this blind man yet the fame and report by which this is carried to the mans notice and knowledge is fallible all men standing truly that which the Lord reporteth of them liars and such as can be deceived yet it is no consequence that Iesus doth restore the man to his sight in a way subject to miscarrying and declinably and upon a fallible hazard so as he may goe as blind from Iesus as he came to him Now in the carrying of the doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles to our knowledge through Printers translators grammer pens and tongues of men from so many ages all which are fallible we are to look to an unerring and undeclinable providence conveying the Testament of Christ which in it self is infallible and begs no truth no authoritie either from the Church as Papists dreame or from Grammer Characters Printer or translator all these being adventitious and yesterday accidents to the nature of the word of God and when Mr. Goodwin resolves all our faith into a foundation of Christian Religion if I may call it Religon made of the credit learning and authority of men he would have mens learning and authoritie either the word of God or the essence and nature thereof which is as good as to include the garments and cloathes of man in the nature and definition of a man and build our faith upon a paper foundation but our faith is
will bide the tryall of the fire and not be consumed and the man rewarded for his so building and bad doctrine will be burns and not abide the Lords fire when it is tryed for false doctrine will vanish in the day of tryall and yeeld the sower of such doctrine no comfort yet he himself keeping the foundation Christ shall be saved but he shall be ●eded and 〈◊〉 afflicted for his fruitlesse building so the day seems to be the day of tryal and fiery persecution coming on all the Preachers of the Gospel to try the● and their doctrine as Rev. 3. 10. the place smels nothing of p●●gato●ie fire and the most judicious interpreters even Es●ins 〈◊〉 Papist ●●pounds i● well of the Lords trying of the sons of Levi Mal. 3. 5. I will not say Amen to Dr. Taylor that to count a man an heretick his opinion must be a plaine upon recession from demonstrative authority which must needs be voluntary vincible and criminall for the Sadduces were wilfull obstinate hereticks in denying the resurrection of the dead a principall Article of faith yet it is not clear that their opinion was an open recession from demonstrative authority The Doctor will not call Christs arg●ing God is the God of dead Abraham Ergo the dead must live againe Matth. 22. demonstrative We may have as much naturall blindnesse as we can hardly see the truth of Christs ascention to heaven and comming againe to judge the quicke and dead by demonstrative authority from Scripture yet those in the visible Church denying these Articles of faith are Hereticks though there may be degrees of voluntarinesse and obstinacy in Hereticks 6. That there must be vinciblenesse in all heresie is anobiguous in the Doctors sense for by vinciblenesse I take he means such vinciblenesse whereby none by their owne industry and strength of freewill may if they be not wanting to that grace which is denyed to none as Arminians say attaine to the light of such consequences as hereticks wilfully deny If this be his meaning he is a friend to Pelagius 2. If he take vincible as opposed to invincible ignorance he Popishly then saith that the Scripture offereth to us many things whereof we may be invincibly ignorant Now invincible ignorance Protestants acknowledge onely in matters of fact or of Gospel-truths never so much as in the letter revealed as Heathens may be invincibly ignorant of Christ and their ignorance not be sinfull as Joh. 15. 22. and Jacob was invincibly ignorant in lying with Leah instead of Rachel There can be no such vinciblenesse or invinciblenesse in an Heretick that hears the Gospel for who ever heare the Gospel and yet remaine ignorant their ignorance is not invincible Nulla est invincibilis ignorantia juris 7. The opinion of Purgatory though it were no heresie as the Doctor saith and bringeth no argument to prove it yet is not simply a finlesse errour in such as know or ought to know since the Scripture is before their eyes that 1. There is no word of God to warrant it 2. Since the word in the Parable of Lazarus and the rich Glutton sheweth us what abideth all men immediately after they dye that the bodies of all goe to the earth and one way or other are buried and the souls either to heaven or hell and this he saith of all mankinde 1. Because all receive either their good things or their evill of suffering in this life 2. All men are such as if they beleeve not Moses and the Prophets will not beleeve though one rise from the dead 3. Christ should be unperfect in this place and in all other places who should not tell us of a third doom befalling some after they are dead and buried where their bodies that were instruments of sin as the rich gluttons tongue was of gluttony should be tormented for their veniall sinnes yea and Purgatory dwells door-neighbour with covetousnesse if the Doctor remembers that Soul-masses to Romish Masse-mongers as well as Durges Requiems M●sses are not a little gainfull 8. Nor is there any errour of things revealed by the wise Lawgiver in Scripture which is meerly speculative in order to Gods end his glory It is no lesse derogatory to the Lawgivers glory not to beleeve A Virgin shall conceive and bear a Son and there is one God in three persons then to kill our Brother though the former be more speculative farther from the experiments of humane affairs as he speaketh and more difficult and remoter from humane observation then the other Object 1. Errours are then saith he made sins when they are contrary to charity or inconsistent with a good life or the honour of God Answ Not to beleeve what God saith is inconsistent with his honour for nothing intrinsecally is inconsistent with the honour of God not the eating of the tree of knowledge no simple act of loving fearing beleeving all are inconsistent with or agreeable to the honour of God because he commands or forbids them Object 2. No mans person is to be charged with the odious consequences of his opinion though the doctrine may be therefore charged because if he did see the consequences and then avow them his person is chargeable with them Answ The very opinion it selfe may be a blasphemy by consequence though the man see it not to be blasphemy will the Doctor say Hymeneus and Alexander did make shipwrack of faith and blaspheme because they said the resurrection was past Yet Paul 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. chargeth the persons with blasphemy and can the Doctor deny that Hymeneus and Philetus increased unto more ungodlinesse and that their word did eat as a canker in saying that the resurrection was past which yet Paul chargeth on them 2 Tim. 2. 15 16 17. and those that taught circumcision are charged as perverters of soules Act. 15. yet they but perverted soules by consequence The like may be said of such as Paul said tell from Christ and lost all benefit in Christ if they were circumcised Gal. 5. 2. It may be they would retract the heresie if they saw the blasphemies to follow by strong consequence and it may be not since they are selfe-condemned But sure the Lord chargeth the persons of men as making God a lyar who beleeve not his truth and he chargeth Epicurisme Let us eat and drinke for to morrow we shall dye 1 Cor. 15. on the persons that deny the resurrection and if the doctrine be a lye I wonder how these that lye of God since God commandeth to know and beleeve whatever he saith in his word can be innocent Object If no simple errour condemne us before the throne of God since God is so pitifull to our crimes that he pardons many de toto de integro he will far lesse demand an account of our weaknesse the strongest understanding cannot pretend immunity from being deceived Answ Then though Christ said Joh. 8. Except ye beleeve that I
warrant Christ to offer up himself to God But upon the supposition of Libertines it 's no murther nor is it punishable at al because the father may yea lawfully ought to worship God according to the indictment of his conscience whither the conscience be right or bloody and erroneous and yet he is not punishable for blood-shed by their way for meerly and simply without any malignancy or hatred to the child he beleeves he ought to preferre his maker to his dearest childs life as well as Abraham and the conscience doth naturally and as under no Law simply beleeve it is the like service and worship that Abraham would have gratefully performed unto God if God in reward of that love had not forbidden him againe to kill his Sonne And this answer presupposes also that it is impossible for a father to have such a conscience as may stimulate and command to kill his son and that in the authority and name of God as he erroneously yea and as he invincibly holdeth as Socinians Familists Papists beleeve purgatory merits justification by workes who yet are not to be punished for their conscience according to Libertines Again there is no intrinsecall malignancy in the act of naticide or son-sacrificing but what it hath from the Lords Law forbiding to kill now those that killed their Sons to Molech yea to God as they thought strongly yea invincibly beleeved God commanded them to do him such bodily service as is clear from Jer. 7. 31. Jer. 15. 5. And that this is invincible ignorance I take the word invincible in the Libertines sense Libertines grant for in our condemning son-sacrificing they wil say we are not infallible Yea the understanding being spirituall cannot be restrained saith Dr. Taylor Sect. 13. n. 6. and no man can change his opinion when he will saith he ibid n. 7. and so should not be punished for it and n. 13. there is nothing under God Almighty that hath power over the soule of man so as to command a persuasion If hee be then perswaded that he ought to kill his Son he ought unpunishably so to do Lastly Doctor Taylor yeelds the cause when he saith that certaine known Idolaters may be punished with death or corporall inflictions For there is no Idolatry so grosse that strongly deluded consciences may not be carried invincibly I speake in the Libertine sense out of meer conscience to act Ergo some are justly punishable for their meer conscience and yet are not persecuted for conscience 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 If a man preach treason saith he his opinion doth not excuse If a man preach murther and preach that Christ was an impostor that the Scripture is a fable how can his opinion excuse in a great sin and not all sins CHAP. XXVIII Divers other Arguments for pretended Toleration answered DOctor Taylor objects from the Arminians he that persecutes a disagreeing person doth arm all the world to persecu●● himself if he say he is no Heretick he is as confidently beleeved to be an Heretick as he beleeves his adversarie to be an Heretick if it be said every side must take their venture this is to make the Christian world a shambles Ans 1. Because sound and orthodoxe Magistrates punish Hereticks they doe no more arm Hereticks against them to punish them then they arme murtherers to punish them because no law of Conscience teacheth that a seducer is obliged to publish to others his erroneous opinion touching mansacrificing the unlawfulness of Magistracie under the New Testament Libertie of Conscience Familisme and the 〈◊〉 for then the Law of nature must teach men are obliged in conscience to sin and pervert others 2. They are obliged to beleeve that their Conscience must be a rule to others which two the Law of nature cannot teach since it is the just law of God If yee argue what Hereticks doe unjustly they persecute the sound in the faith and there is reciprocation of persecution amongst false Religions its true the Christian world is a shambles through the corruption of mens nature But if yee argue what Christian Orthodox Magistrates ought to doe they ought to punish only Hereticks and Seducers but they do not justly 〈◊〉 Hereticks and those of false Religions reciprocally against themselves for by this argument those that are just Magistrates and take away the life of Pirates Robbers 〈◊〉 of other Nations doe they therefore justly arme all Pirates and Robbers to take away their Lives I thinke not Obj. 2. Where the Christ or his Messengers charge the Magistrate to establish by his arme of flesh and 〈…〉 worship of God the beast indeed gets the power of the earth Rev. 17. Bloodie Tenent Answ Kisse the Son O Rulers Psal 2. The Kings of the earth shall lick the dust before Christ Psal 72. The Kings shall bring their glory to the new Ierusalem Ergo They shall guard the Law of God from violence 2. The Beast gets the power of Kings to bear down truth but this power of Kings shall burn the whore Rev. 17. 16. and act for Christ and his ordinances 3. Where reads Mr. Williams that Christ and his Messengers are to charge the Magistrate to give libertie to Wolves Boares Lions Foxes Serve your consciences O beasts in wasting the Mountain of the Lords House and in not sparing the flock the Nurse-father grants you libertie to waste the mountain of the Lord. Obj. 3. Artaxerxes knew not the Law of God which he confirmed how then could be judge it 2. In such fits and pangs of a terrifying conscience what lawes have Nebuchadnezzar Cyrus Darius Arta●erxes put forth for the Israel of God yet were they not charged with the spirituall crowne of governing the worship of God Answ That was their Error they knew not the Law of God but it was their dutie that they ratified it 2. Those Princes did their dutie as Magistrates in those Laws no matter what Conscience renewed or not renewed put them on to act the duties in the substance of the act were lawfull the corruption of nature they being unrenewed might vitiate the work and put them a working to act lawfully in the duties Saul as King did fight the battels of the Lord and led his people and that lawfully according to the substance of the work but God knowes his motives and end 3. This ignorant man never heares of a Magistraticall act to promote the worship of God in a civill way but he dreames of a spirituall tribunall given to the Magistrate which we abhorre as much as he for the materiall object of the Magistrates power though spirituall rendreth not his power spirituall as the Magistrate punisheth spirituall confederacie with Satan in Magitians and Sorcerers a Witch should not be suffered to live and Sodomie flowing from Gods judiciall delivering men up to a reprobate mind Rom. I. 28. and yet the Mastrates power is not spirituall nor terminated upon the consciences of men Not is this Argument