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B12208	The copie of a leter, vvryten by a Master of Arte of Cambrige, to his friend in London concerning some talke past of late betvven tvvo vvorshipful and graue men, about the present state, and some procedinges of the Erle of Leycester and his friendes in England. Conceyued, spoken and publyshed, vvyth most earnest protestation of al duetyful good vvyl and affection, tovvardes her most excellent Ma. and the realm, for vvhose good onely it is made common to many.	Morgan, Thomas, 1543-1606, attributed name.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name.	1584 (1584)	STC 5742.9; ESTC S108682	125,586	206

For first they affirme that Hērie Marques Dorset vvhen he married the Ladie Fraunces had to vvife the olde Earle of Arundels sister vvho liued both then and manie years after and had a prouision out of his liuing to her dying day vvherby that mariage could no vvay be good Secondlie that the Ladie Katherin daughter to the said Lady Fraunces by the Marques by vvhom the Earle of Hartford had his children vvas lavvfulie maried to the Earle of Penbrook that novv liueth and consequentlie could haue no lavvful issue by anie other during his life Thirdlie that the said Katherin vvas neuer lavvfulie maried to the said Earle of Hartford but bare him thos childrē as his Concubine VVhich as they say is defined and regestred in the Archbisshop or Cāturburies Court vpon due examination taken by order of her Ma. that novv reigneth and this is in effect so much as I haue heard them aleage about thes affaires SCHOL It is much quoth I that you haue said if it may be al proued Marie yet by the vvay I cannot but smile to heare my Lord of Leycester alovve of so manie bastardies novv vppon the issue of Ladie Fraunces vvhom in tyme paste vvhen lane her Leicester dealing vvith the house of Suffolk eldest daughter vvas married to his brother he aduaunced in legitimation before both the daughters of K. Henrie the eight But to the purpose I vvould gladie knovv vvhat groundes of veritie thes alegations haue and hovv far in trueth they may stoppe from inheritance for indeed I neuer heard them so distinctlie aleaged before GENTL VVherto ansvvered the Gentleman that our friend the Lavvier could best resolue that if it pleased him to speak vvythout his fee though in some points aleaged euerie other man quoth he that knovveth the state and common gouernment of England may easily giue his iudgement also As in the case of Bastardie if the matter may be proued Bastardy ther is no difficultie but that no right to inheritaunce can iustlie be pretended as also perhaps Forreyne byrth in the case of forreine birth though in this I am not so cunning but yet I see by experience that forreiners borne in other landes can hardlie come and claime inheritaunce in England albeit to the contrarie I haue heard great and long disputes but such as indeed passed my capacitie And if it might please our friēd here present to expound the thing vnto vs more clearly I for my parte vvould gladlie bestovv the hearing and that vvith attention LAVV. To this ansvvered the Lavvyer I vvil gladie Sir tel you my mind in anie thīg that it shal please you demaund much more in this matter vvherin by occasiō of oftē cōference I am somevvhat perfect The impedimētes vvhich thes men aleage against the succession of K. Henrie the 8. his sisters are of tvvo kindes as you see The one knovven and alovved in our lavv as you haue vvel said if it may be proued and that is bastardie vvherby they seck Bastardies lauful stops to disable al the vvhole Line and race of Suffolk as also Arbella of the second and later house of Scotlād VVherof it is to smal purpose to speak any thing here seing the vvhole controuersie stādeth vpon a matter of fact onlie to be proued or improued by recordes and vvitnesses Onlie this I vvil say that some of thes bastardies before named are rife in manie mens mouthes auovved by diuers that yet liue but let other men loke to this vvho haue moste interest therin and may be moste damnified by them if they fal out true The impedimentes agaīst Scotland three in number The other impedimentes vvhich are aleaged onlie against the Q of Scottes and her sonne are in number three as you recite them that is forreine birth K Henries Testamēt and religion vvherof I am contente to say somevvhat seing you desire it albeit ther be so much published alredy in bokes of diuers languages beyond the sea as I am enformed concerning this matter as more cannot be said But yet so much as I haue heard passe among Lavvyers my betters in conference of thes affaires I vvil not let to recite vnto you vvith this Prouiso A protestation and protestation alvvayes that vvhat I speake I speak by vvay of recital of other mens opinions not meaning my self to incurre the statute of affirming or auovving any persons title to the Crovvn vvhatsoeuer First then touching forreine birth ther be some Touchīg the first impediment of f 〈…〉 yue by 〈…〉 men in the vvorld that vvil say that it is a common and general rule of our lavv that no straunger at al may inherit anie thing by anie meanes vvithin the lād vvhich in trueth I take to be spoken vvithout ground in that general sense For I could neuer yet come to the sight of anie such common or vniuersal rule and I knovv that diuers examples may be alleaged in sundrie cases to the contrarie and by that vvhich is expreslie set dovvne in the seuenth and ninthe yeares of K. Edvvard the fouerth and in the eleuenth and fouertienth of Henrie the fourth it appeareth plainlie that a An Alien may purchasse straunger may purchase landes in England as also inherite by his vvife if he marrie an inheritrix VVherfore this common rule is to be restreined from that generalitie vnto proper inheritaunce onlie in vvhiche sense I doe easilie graunte The true Maxima against Aliens that our common lavv hathe bene of auncient and is at this day that no person borne out of the aleagiaunce of the kinge of England vvhos father and mother vvere not of the same aleagiaunce at the tyme of his birthe shal be able to haue or demaunde anie heretage vvithin the The statute of K. Edvvard vvhence the Maxima is gathered same aleagiaunce as heire to anie person And this rule of our common lavve is gathered in thes selfe same vvordes of a statute made in the 25. yeare of K. Edvvarde the thirde vvhiche in deede is the only place of effecte that can be aleaged out of our lavve against the inheritaunce of straungers in suche sense and cases as vve novv treate of Reasons vvhy the Scottish title is not leted by the Maxima Against Aliens And albeit novv the cōmon lavv of our countrie do runne thus in general yet vvil the friends of the Scottishe clayme affirme that hereby that title is nothing let or hindered at al tovvards the Crovvn and that for diuers manifest and vveighty reasons vvherof the principal are thes vvhich ensue First it is common and a general rule of our The first reason English lavves that no rule Axiome or Maxima of lavv be it neuer so general can touche or binde the Crovvn except expresse mētion be made therof in the same for that the king and Crovvn haue great preuiledge and prerogatiue aboue the state and affayres of subiectes and great differences alovved in pointes of lavv As for example

Charles Brandon by the Quene of Fraunce vvas married to the Marques of Dorset vvho after Charles Brandons death vvas made Duke of Suffolk in right of his vvife and vvas beheaded in Q Maries time for his conspiracie vvvth my L of Leycesters father And she had by this man three daughters that is Iane The issue of Fraūcis eldest daughter to Charls Brandō Duke of Suffolk that vvas married to my L. of Leycesters brother proclaimed Queene after king Edvvards death for vvhych both shee and her husbande vvere executed Katherine the second daughter vvho had tvvoe sonnes yet lyuyng by the Earle of Hartford Marie the third daughter vvhich left no children The other daughter of Charles Brandon by the Q. of Fraūce caled Elenor vvas married to George Clifford Earle of Cumberlād vvho left a daughter The issue of ●lenor seconde daughter to Charls Brandō by her named Margaret married to the Earle of Darbye vvhich yet liueth hath issue And this is the title of al the house of Suffolk descended frō the second daughter of K. Henrie the seuēth married as hath bene shevved to Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk And by this you see also hovv manie their be vvhoe do thinck ther titles to be far before that of my Lord of Huntingtons if either right Lavv reason or consideration of home affaires may take place in our Realm or yf not yet you cannot but imagine hovv manie great Princes and potentates abrode are like to ioyne and buckle vvyth Huntingtons Line for the preeminence if once the matter fal againe to cōtention by excluding the Line of K. Henry the 7. vvhich God forbid SCHOL Trulie Sir quoth I I vvel perceyue that my Lords turne is not so nighe as I had thought vvhether he exclude the Line of king Henrie or Hūtīg●ō behinde manie other titles no. For if he exclude that then must he enter the Cumbat vvith forraine titlers of the house of Lancaster and if he exclude it not then in al apparence of reason in Lavve to as you haue said the succession of the tvvoe daughters of king Henrie the seuenth vvhich you distingvvishe by the tvvoe names of Scotland and Suffolke muste needes be as clearlie before him and his Line that descendeth onlie from Edvvard the fourth his brother as the Q. title that novv raigneth is before him For that both Scotland Suffolk and her Ma. do hold al by one foundation vvhich is the vnion of both houses and titles together in K. Henry the seuenth her Ma. Graundfather GENTL That is true quoth the Gentleman and euident enough in euery mans eye and therfore no doubt but that as much is meant against her Maiestie yf occasion serue as against the rest that holde by the same title Albeit her Maiesties state the Lorde be praysed be such at this tyme as it is not safitie to pretend so much against her as against the reste vvhat soeuer be meant And that in trueth more should be meante gainst her highnes then against all the rest ther is this reason for that her Maiestie by her present possession letteth more their desires then al the rest together vvyth ther future pretences But as I haue said it is not The pollicie of the Conspirators for the deceyuing of her Maiesty safitie for them nor yet good policie to declare openlie vvhat they meane against her maiestie It is the best vvay for the present to hevve dovvn the rest and to leaue her Maiestie for the laste blovve and vpshoote to their game For vvhich cause they vvill seeme to make great difference at this daye betvvene her Maiesties title and the rest that descende in likevvise from king Henrie the seuenth auovving the one and disalovving the other Albeit my Lord of Leycesters father preferred that of Suffolk vvhen tyme vvas before this of her Ma. and compelled the vvhole Realm to svveare therunto Such is the variable pollicy of men that serue the tyme or rather that serue them selues of al tymes for their purposes SCHOL I remember quoth I that tyme of the Duke vvas present my self at some of his proclamatiōs for that purpose VVherin my L. his sonne that novv liueth being thē a doer as I can tel he vvas I meruaile hovv he can deale so contrarie novv Leycester variabilitie preferring not onlie her Ma. title before that of Suffolk vvherof I vvonder lesse because it is more gainful to him but also an other much furder of But you haue signified the cause in that the tymes are chaūged other bargaines are in hād of more importaunce for him VVherfore leauing this to be considered by others vvhō it cōcerneth I beseech you Sir for that I knovv your vvorship hath bene much conuersant amonge their friendes and fauourers to tel me vvhat are the barres and lettes vvhich they do aleadge vvhy the house of Scotlād and Suffolk descending of K. Henrie the seuēth his daughters should not succed in the Crovvn of England after her Ma. vvho endeth the Line of the same K. by his sonne for in my sight the matter appeareth verie plaine GENTL They vvant not pretences of barres and lettes against them al quoth the Gentleman vvhich I vvil lay dovvn in order as I haue heard thē aleaged Barres pretēded gainst the claime of Scotland Suffolk First in the Line of Scotland theire are thre persōs as you knovv that may pretende right that is the Quene and her sonne by the first mariage of Margaret and Arbella by the second And against the first mariage I heare nothing affirmed but against the tvvoe personnes proceeding therof I heare them aleage three stops one for that they are straūgers Against the Queene of Scotland her sonne borne out of the land and consequentlie incapable of inheritaunce vvythin the same an other for that by a special testament of K. Hērie the eight authorized by tvvoe seueral Parliamentes they are excluded the third for that they are enimies to the religion novv receiued amonge vs therfore to be debarred Against the seconde mariage of Margaret Against Arbella vvyth Archibalde Douglas vvherof Arbella is descended they aleage that the said Archibalde had a former vvyfe at the tyme of that mariage vvhich liued lōg after and so neither that marage lavvful nor the issue therof legitimate The same barre they haue against al the house and Line of Suffolk for first they say that Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk had a knovven vvyfe a liue vvhen he married Marie Queene of Fraunce cōsequentlie that neither the Ladie Fraunces nor Elenore borne of that mariage can be lavvfulie borne And thes is al I can heare them say against the succession Against Darbye of the Coūtesse of Darby descended of Elenore But against my Lord of Hartfords children that come from Fraūces the eldest daughter I heare them aleage tvvo or three bastardies more besides Against the children of Har●ford this of the first mariage

resist nor saue from his violence if they shevv dislike or vvil not yeeld their cōsent to his doinges And if I should discouer in particular hovv manie good husbandes he had plagued in this nature and for suche delites it vvere intollerable for his concupiscence violence doe runne iointlie together as in furious beastes vve see they are accustomed Neither holdeth he anie rule in his lust besides onlie the motiō suggestion of his ovvn sensualitie Kinred affinitie or anie other band of consanguinitie religion honour or honestie taketh no place in his outragious appetit VVhat he best liketh that he taketh as lavvful for the tyme. So that kinsvvoman allie friendes vvyfe or daughter or vvhat soeuer female sorte besides doth please his eye I leaue out of purpose and for honour sake tearmes of kinred more neare that must yeeld to his desire The keeping of the mother vvyth tvvo or three of her daughters at once or successiuelie is no more vvyth him then the eating of an henne and her chicken together Ther are not by reporte tvvo noble vvomen about her Ma. I speake vpon some accompt of them that knovv much vvhom he hath not solicited by potent vvayes Neither contented vvyth this place of honour he hath descended to seek pasture among the vvayting Gentlevvomen of her Ma. great Chamber offering more for their allurement then I thinke Lais did commonlie take in Corinthe if three hundreth poundes for a night vvill make vp the summe or Money VVell spent if not yet vvill he make it vp othervvise hauing reported him self so litle shame he hath that he offred to an other of higher place an hundreth pound landes by the yeare vvith as manie Ievvells Anne Vauiser as moste vvomen vnder her Ma. vsed in England vvhich vvas no meane baite to one that vsed trafique in such marchandize she being but the leauinges of an other mā before him vvherof my L. is nothing squemish for satisfying of his lust but can be content as they say to gather vp crōmes vvhen he is Hungrie euen in the verie Laundrie it self or other place of baser qualitie And albeit the Lord of his great mercie to do him good no doubt if he vvere reuokeable hath The punishmēts of God vpō Leicester to do hym good laid his hand vpon him in some chasticement in this vvorld by giuing him a brokē bellie on both sides of his bovvels vvherby miserie putrifactiō is threatned to hym dayly to his yōgsōne by the vvidovv of Essex being Filius Peecati such a straūge calamitie of the falling sicknes in his infancie * The children of adulterors shal be consumed and the seede of a vvicked bedd shal be roted out saith god Sap. 3. as vvel maye be a vvitnes of the parētes sinne vvickednes and of both their vvasted natures in iniquitie yet is this man nothing amended therby but according to the custom of al olde adulterers is more libidinous at this day then euer before more giuen to procure loue in others by Cōiuring Sorcerie and other such meanes And albeyt for him self bothe age and nature spent do somvvhat tame him from the acte yet vvanteth he not vvil as apeareth by the Italian oyntment procured not manie yeares paste by his Surgyan or Mountybank of that countrie vvherby as they say he is Leicester oyntmēt able to moue his flesh at al tymes for keeping of his credit hovvsoeuer his inhabilitie be othervvise Leicester bottel for performance as also one of his Phisitians reported to an Erle of this land that his Lordship had a bottel for his bedehead of ten Pounds the Pinte to the same effect But my masters vvhether are vve fallen vnaduised I am ashamed to haue made mētion of so base filthynes SCHOL Not vvythout good cause quoth I but that vve are here alone and no man heareth vs. VVherfore I pray you let vs return vvheras vve lefte and vvhē you named my L. of Leycesters daughter borne of the Ladie Shefield in Dudley Castle ther came into my head a pretie storie concerning that affaire vvhich novv I vvill recompt though somevvhat out of order therby to dravv you from the further stirring of this vnsauerie pudle fovvle dunghill vvhereunto vve are slipped by folovving my Lord somvvhat to far in his pathes actions VVherfore to tell you the tale as it fell out I grevv acquainted thes monethes paste vvyth a certaine Minister that novv is dead vvas the same man that vvas vsed at Dudley Castle for complemēt of some Sacred ceremonies at the birth of my Lord of Ley. daughter in that place the mater vvas so ordeyned A pretie deuise by the vvylie vvit of him that had sovved the seed that for the better couerīg of the haruest secret deliuerie of the Ladie Scheffielde the good vvyfe of the Castle also vvherby Ley. appointed gossippes might vvythout other suspition haue accesse to the place should feigne her self to be vvyth childe after long sore trauail god vvote to be deliuered of a qvvyshē as she vvas indeed a litle after a faire Coffin vvas buried vvyth a bundell of cloutes in shevv of a childe the Minister caused to vse al accoustomed prayers and ceremonies for An acte of Atheisme the solēne interring therof for vvhich thing aftervvard before his death he had great grief remors of cōsciēce vvyth no small detestatiō of the moste irreligious deuise of my L. of Ley. in such a case LAVV. Here the Lavv. began to laugh a pace both at the deuise at the Minister said novv truely if my L. contractes hold no better but hath so manie infirmities vvyth subtilties and by places besides I vvould be lothe that he vvere married to my daughter as meane as she is GENT. But yet quoth the Gentleman I had rather of the tvvoe be his vvyfe for the tyme then his gest especialie yf the Italiā Surgiā or Phisitiō be at hand LAVV. True it is said the lavvyer for he doth not poyson his vvyues vvherof I somvvhat maruaile especialie his first vvyfe I muse vvhy he chose rather to make her avvaye by open violence then by some Italian Confortiue GENT. Hereof said the Gentleman may be diuers The First reason vvhy Ley. slevv his vvyfe by violence ratherthē by poysō reasons alleged First that he vvas not at that tyme so skilful in those Italian vvares nor had about him so fit Phisitiās Surgians for the purpose nor yet in trueth do I thinke that his minde vvas so setled then in mischeefe as it hath bene sithence For you knovv that men are not desperat the first daye but doe enter into vvickednes by degrees and vvyth some doubt or staggering of conscience at the beginning And so he at that tyme might be desirous to haue his vvyfe made avvay for that she letted him in his designemētes but yet not so stonie harted as to appoint out the particular maner of her death

designementes as also of some secret discontentment vvhich he hath tovvardes her Ma. and the state present for certaine harde † speaches and ingrate recompences as he pretendeth but indeed for that he is knovven to be of nature fyrie and impatient of staye from seeing that common vvealth on foote vvhich the next competitours for their gayne haue paynted out to him and such others more pleasaunte then the Terrestrial Paradise it self This thē is the Hector this is the Aiax appoīted for the enterprise vvhen the tyme shal come This must be forsooth an other Richard of VVar●vik to gaine the Crovvn for Hērie the ninth of the house of York as the other Richard did put dovvn Hērie the sixt of the house of Lācaster placed Edvvard the fourth from vvhom Huntington deriueth his title therfore this man is necessarilie to be enterteyned from tyme to tyme as vve see novv he is in some charge and martial action to the end his experience povver and credit may grovv the more and he be able at the tyme to haue souldiours at his commaundement And for the former charge vvhich helde of late in Ireland as this man had not bene called avvay but for execution of some other secret purpose * In Scotlād or els vvhere a gaynst the next īheritors or presēt possessor for aduancement of their designemēts so be vvel assured that for the tyme to come it is to be furnished agayne vvyth a sure and fast friend to Leycester and to that faction Sir Ihon Parotte In the I le of VVyght I graunt that Leycester hath lost a great friend and a trustie seruaunt by the death of Captaine Horsey but yet the mater is supplyed Sir Edvv. Horsey Sir Georg Carevv by the succession of an other no lesse assured vnto him then the former or rather more through the bāde of affinitie by his vvife The tvvo Ilands of Gersey and Gernsey are in the possession of tvvoe Sir Amias Paulet Sir Thomas Layton friēds most obliged depēdētes The one by reasō he is excedingly addicted to the Puritane procedīgs the other as novv being ioyned vnto him by the mariage of Mistres Besse his vviues sister both daughters to Sir Frauncis or at least to my Ladie Knooles and so become a riuale companion and brother vvho vvas before thoughe trustie yet but his seruaunt And thes are the chiefe Keyes Forteesses and Bulvvarkes vvythin vvithout about the realm vvhich my Lord of Leyces possessing as he doth he may be assured of the bodie vvythin vvher notvvythstanding as hath bene shevved he vvanteth no due preparation for strength hauing at his disposition besides al aydes and other helpes specified Her Ma. Stable Her Armour Munitition and Artilerye The Tovver before her Ma. horse and stables by interest of his ovvn office her Armour Artilerie and Munitiō by the office of his brother the Erle of VVarvvick The Tovver of London and treasure therin by the dependence of Sir Ovvyne Hopton his svvorne seruaunt● as redie to receyue and furnish him vvyth th● vvhole yf occasion serued as one of his predecessors vvas to receyue his father in K. Edvvardes dayes for the lyke effect against her Ma. and her sister And in the Citie of London it self vvhat this London Sir Rovv●and Heivvard Madd Fleet vvo● man at a pinche could doe by the help of some of the principal mē chief leaders as it vvere commaunders of the commons ther and by the bestirring of Fleetvvoode his madde Recorder and other such his instrumentes as also in al other Tovvnes Portes and Cities of importaunce by such of his ovvn setting vp as he hath placed ther to serue his designementes and iustices of peace vvith other that in most Shyres do vvere his liuerey and are at his appoyntement the simplest man vvhithin the Realm doth consider VVherunto yf you adde novv his ovvn forces and furniture vvhich he hath in Killingvvorth Castle and other places as also the forces of Huntington in particular vvith their friendes folovvers allies and Compartenours you shal finde that they are not behind in their preparations SCHOL For my Lord of Huntingtons forvvardnes in the cause said I ther is no man I think vvhich maketh doubt marie for his priuate forces albeit they may be verie good for anie thing I do knovve to the cōtrary especiallie at his house vvythin 25. miles of My L. of Hūtingtons preparation at Ashby Killingvvorth vvhere one tolde me some yeares paste that he had furniture redie for fiue thovvsand men yet do I not think but that they are far inferior to my L. of Leycest vvho is takē to haue excessiue store that in diuers place And as for the Castle laste mentioned by you ther are men of Killingvvorth Castle good intelligence and of no smal iudgement vvho report that in the same he hath vvel to furnish ten thovvsand good souldiars of al thinges necessarie both for horse man besides al other munition armour artillerie vvherof great store vvas brought thither vnder pretence of tryumphe vvhē her Ma. vvas ther neuer as yet carried back again besides the great abundāce of redie Coyne ther laide vp as is said sufficient for anie great exploit to be done vvythin the Realme And I knovve that the estimation of this place vvas such amonge diuers many years ago as vvhē at a tyme her Ma. laye daungerouslie syck and lyke ●lphe ●ane to die at Hampton Court a certaine gentleman of the Court came vnto my L. of Huntington told him that for so much as he toke his L. to be next in succession after her Ma. he vvoulde offer hyma meane of great help for cōpassing of his purpose after the discease of her Ma. vvhich vvas the possessiō of Killīgvvorth Castle for at that time thes tvvo The offer acceptation of Killingvvorth Castle Earles vvere not yet verie friendes nor confederate together that being had he shevved to the Earle the great furniture and vvealthe vvhich therby he should possesse for pursute of his purpose The proposition vvas vvel liked the mater esteemed of great importaunce and consequentlie receyued vvyth manie thankes But yet aftervvard her Ma. by the good prouidence of God recouerīg againe letted the executiō of the bargaine and my L. of Huntington hauing occasion to ioyne amitie vvyth Leycester had more respect to his ovvn cōmoditie thē to his friendes securitie as commonly in such persons cases it falleth out so discouered the vvhole deuice vnto him vvho forgat not after from tyme to tyme to plague the deuiser by secret meanes vntil he hath brought him to that poor estate as al the vvorld seeth though manie mē be not acquainted vvyth the true cause of this his disgrace and bare fortune LAVV. To this ansvvered the Lavvyer In good faith Gentlemen you open great misteries vnto me vvhich either I knevv not or cōsidered not so particularlie before and no maruaile for that my