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A74979 Excommunicatio excommunicata, or, A censure of the Presbyterian censures and proceedings in the Classis at Manchester wherein is modestly examined what ecclesiastical or civil function [sic] they pretend for their new and usurped power : in a discourse betwixt the ministers of that Classis, and some dissenting Christians. Allen, Isaac, 17th cent.; Allen, Isaac, 17th cent.; Heyrick, Richard, 1600-1667. 1658 (1658) Wing A1026A; ESTC R42720 45,307 67

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shall be privately admonished according to the order prescribed by Christ Mat. 18. once or twice to see if they will reform and that the Minister when hee catechizeth the several families shall exhort such persons in them as hee findes to be of a competent knowledg and are blamelesse in life that they present themselves to the Eldership that they may be admitted to the Lords Supper 5. That if they will neither hearken to private admonition nor admonition of the Eldership their names shall be published openly in the several Congregations and they warned before all to reform 6. That if after all this they shall continue obstinate they shall be cast out and excommunicated These things this Classe thought fit to give publick notice of being very sensible that for the want of the vigorous exercise of Church discipline ignorance Atheism and licentiousnesse grows upon us to the great dishonor of God scandal of Religion the hazzard and undoing of many pretious souls and the laying a blot on several Congregations and therefore they are resolved seeing themselves necessitated to this severity of discipline for the freeing themselves from the great guilt of neglect of their own duty that otherwise they shall be under to make use of that power that Christ hath committed to them for edification and not for destruction although it would be their farr greater joy that there might not be occasion of using sharpnesse and therefore they do earnestly in the bowels of Jesus Christ beseech all those that are ignorant that they would apply themselves diligently to the use of all publick and private means for their information submitting themselves with all readinesse to be instructed and to consider that without knowledg the minde cannot be good and they do also in the name of Jesus Christ exhort and warn all such as live scandalously and in the practice of open sins that they break off their iniquities by repentance and turn unto God speedily with their whole heart that they neither incurr the censure of being cast out of the Church here nor by continuing in their sinfull course be kept for ever entering into the kingdome of Heaven hereafter And touching such as turn their backs of the Lords Supper constantly this Classe doth wish them seriously to consider what an account they will be able to give unto Jesus Christ for their living in the dayly neglect of an ordinance that is so exceeding necessary for their own comfort and growth in grace and that they would lay aside all prejudice whatever it is that hinders and submit themselves unto wholesom doctrine for their own good as this Classe hath been ready on their part to expresse all tendernesse toward the weak and a willingnesse to condescend to the meanest for the removing all occasions of stumbling so farr as lies in their power And yet considering the fearfull danger that all such do lay themselves open unto that shall eat and drink the Body and Blood of the Lord unworthily they do warn whosoever comes to the Lords Table to take special care so often as they come to examine themselves lest they eat and drink their own damnation But because the exercise of Church discipline must begin at private persons and that if they neglect their duty of watching over and admonishing one another and bringing complaints to the Eldership as there is occasion little or nothing can be done for the thorow reformation of the several Congregations this Classe doth therefore warn all and every of the members belonging unto them to consider the great guilt they will lye under if they through their neglect obstruct so needfull and necessary a work and doth expect therefore in all faithfulnesse laying aside all partiality slavishnesse and self-respects they should addresse themselves to the discharge of their duties that if any walk disorderly and will not be reclaimed by private admonition they making complaint thereof to the Eldership course may be taken for excommunicating of the obstinate and thereby purging out the old leven to the glory of God the delivering their own souls from that guilt they will otherwise lye under the preserving the Ordinances from prophanation and the rest of the lump from being levened the stopping of the mouthes of such as seek occasion against us and finally the everlasting welfare and salvation of the souls of those that go astray By the Provincial Assembly at Preston Octob. 6. 1657. RICHARD HEYRICKE Moderator pro tempore This Presentation is approved by the Provincial Assembly THOMAS JOHNSON Moderator EDWARD GEE Scribe To the Eldership of the severall congregations belonging to the Association of the First Classe at Manchester within the Province of Lancaster These Give us leave to salute you in your own Terms VVE have seen and seriously weighed that paper draught Intituled A presentation of the first Classe at Manchester dated the 8. of Sept. 1657. confirmed by the Provincial Assembly at Preston Octob. 6. and published at Manchester Church the 22. of Nov. in the aforesaid year and do publish this our sense and Apprehension of it as far as is plain to us not resting in the Judgement and determination of any General Council contrary thereunto if any such should be much less to one of your Provincial Assemblies Though you seem to submit to your Provincial what you will hardly grant to a General Council In which we dissent from you Though in other things we shall joyn as first 1. We joyn with you in a deep sense of the severall gross sins and errours of the times desiring earnestly to mourn first for our own next for the sins of others of our Christian Brethren and fellow members of that Church whereof Christ is the Head We are grieved together with you for the Scandalous and offensive lives of such as live in drunkeness uncleaness swearing prophanation of the Sabbath c. 2. We are also sensible with you that there are sundry persons grossely ignorant in the main points of Christian Religion 3. You with us again we hope are sensible and grieved though you do not at all mention them for the gross errours in judgement and the damnable Doctrine of many who have rent themselves into as many severall heresies as they have into Sects and Schismes Thus far we agree nay more touching the way of informing the ignorant and reforming the wicked and erroneous we shall not much dissent 1. And first for the information and instruction of the ignorant by way of Catechizing before they be admitted to the Sacrament The course by you published provided it be in publique little differeth from the order prescribed by the Church of England and other reformed Churches abroad before any be admitted to the Sacrament of the Lords supper 2. For those who erre so grossely whether in Doctrinals or points of discipline thereby renting from a true constituted Church Though you speak nothing either of their sin or punishment yet we hope you with us do hold That the