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A10973 Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1608 (1608) STC 21241; ESTC S116109 75,976 132

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whether_o christ_n prescribe_v a_o special_a gesture_n for_o the_o communion_n sect._n 8._o whether_o the_o prayer_n at_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v justifiable_a sect._n 9_o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v a_o gesture_n indifferent_a sect._n 10._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n as_o much_o be_v to_o be_v abhor_v as_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n sect._n 11._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v a_o show_n of_o evil_a and_o the_o great_a scandal_n sect._n 12._o whether_o the_o king_n commandment_n to_o kneel_v make_v kneel_v to_o be_v no_o sin_n sect._n 13._o ❧_o the_o second_o dialogue_n about_o kneel_v at_o the_o holy_a communion_n between_o a_o humorous_a schismatic_n and_o a_o settle_a professor_n schis_n the_o proposition_n which_o i_o hold_v and_o will_v maintain_v be_v this_o namely_o that_o kneel_v in_o the_o very_a act_n of_o take_v eat_a and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n can_v be_v without_o sin_n pro._n what_o hear_v i_o can_v kneeling_z no_o not_o in_o the_o very_a act_n i_o say_v not_o of_o eat_v and_o drink_v but_o of_o take_v eat_a and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n and_o that_o not_o private_o but_o public_o nor_o profane_o but_o in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v without_o sin_n what_o uncouth_a what_o horrible_a what_o hellish_a assertion_n do_v i_o hear_v have_v you_o say_v how_o many_o both_o man_n and_o woman_n may_v and_o some_o do_v sin_n even_o in_o kneel_v at_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o when_o they_o take_v eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n you_o have_v say_v that_o which_o by_o lamentable_a experience_n we_o find_v to_o be_v too_o true_a but_o that_o all_o person_n whatsoever_o which_o receive_v that_o holy_a sacrament_n kneel_v do_v sin_n yea_o even_o in_o kneel_v can_v but_o sin_n or_o that_o their_o say_a kneel_v can_v be_v without_o sin_n who_o can_v so_o much_o as_o think_v this_o without_o great_a sin_n who_o can_v speak_v it_o without_o offence_n who_o can_v hear_v it_o without_o horror_n and_o detestation_n from_o what_o africa_n come_v this_o monster_n from_o what_o hell_n this_o error_n name_v the_o broacher_n show_v the_o auctor_fw-la if_o thou_o can_v do_v neither_o of_o they_o tell_v yet_o thy_o suggestion_n schismatic_a which_o make_v thou_o to_o be_v of_o this_o mind_n sect_n 1._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v a_o institution_n of_o man_n and_o how_o schis_n it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o howsoever_o kneel_v may_n in_o itself_o consider_v be_v esteem_v a_o natural_a gesture_n of_o the_o body_n as_o stand_v sit_v &c_n &c_n yet_o in_o this_o case_n it_o be_v by_o institution_n of_o man_n for_o neither_o nature_n nor_o custom_n do_v teach_v we_o ordinary_o to_o kneel_v when_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v neither_o do_v the_o word_n require_v kneel_v in_o this_o case_n pro._n indeed_o nature_n teach_v we_o whether_o we_o eat_v drink_n or_o whatsoever_o we_o do_v to_o do_v all_o thing_n decent_o and_o with_o good_a manner_n but_o prescribe_v no_o certain_a form_n and_o manner_n in_o eat_v and_o drink_v how_o we_o be_v to_o eat_v or_o drink_v judge_v all_o drink_n and_o eat_v to_o be_v commendable_o which_o be_v civil_o do_v and_o the_o god_n of_o nature_n will_v have_v all_o thing_n in_o his_o church_n decent_o &_o in_o order_n perform_v not_o set_v down_o a_o manner_n how_o but_o leave_v the_o determination_n of_o form_n to_o the_o discretion_n of_o his_o people_n as_o deem_v all_o thing_n to_o be_v commendable_o which_o be_v comely_a and_o orderly_o do_v in_o his_o church_n as_o than_o whatsoever_o the_o manner_n be_v of_o our_o eat_n and_o drink_v common_o in_o private_a house_n and_o take_v our_o corporal_a repast_n if_o it_o be_v civil_o take_v be_v by_o the_o direction_n of_o nature_n herself_o even_o so_o whatsoever_o the_o form_n and_o manner_n of_o our_o take_n eat_v and_o receive_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v if_o it_o be_v orderly_o take_v and_o decent_o do_v be_v from_o god_n and_o his_o word_n albeit_o therefore_o neither_o nature_n enjoin_v we_o to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o sit_v or_o stand_v when_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v nor_o the_o word_n or_o holy_a scripture_n to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o stand_v or_o sit_v when_o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o as_o our_o common_a eat_n and_o drink_v according_a to_o the_o laudable_a custom_n of_o our_o country_n where_o we_o live_v be_v from_o nature_n though_o institute_v by_o man_n or_o make_v usual_a by_o custom_n even_o so_o our_o kneel_v in_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n original_o though_o institute_v by_o man_n inasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o decent_a order_n in_o his_o church_n as_o after_o god_n nature_n be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o civility_n &_o good_a manner_n among_o man_n in_o the_o world_n think_v not_o then_o how_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v by_o institution_n of_o man_n or_o mere_o from_o man_n not_o require_v by_o the_o word_n for_o both_o man_n appoint_v and_o god_n approve_v and_o by_o authority_n from_o god_n man_n appoint_v and_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n god_n approve_v our_o kneel_v and_o so_o our_o say_a kneel_v be_v not_o so_o much_o the_o institution_n of_o man_n as_o of_o god_n and_o require_v in_o his_o word_n so_o that_o in_o kneel_v though_o sometime_o and_o some_o people_n may_v yet_o always_o and_o all_o person_n do_v not_o sin_n yea_o all_o communicant_n if_o otherwise_o they_o offend_v not_o do_v serve_v and_o please_v god_n by_o kneel_v sect_n 2._o whether_o kneel_v be_v use_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n unto_o god_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n schis_n if_o it_o be_v by_o institution_n it_o must_v be_v either_o in_o respect_n of_o a_o more_o reverend_a receive_n or_o not_o pro._n of_o all_o reverend_a manner_n of_o receive_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n kneel_v be_v the_o most_o reverend_a and_o so_o and_o none_o otherwise_o institute_v and_o use_v by_o we_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o england_n schis_n but_o if_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n in_o so_o high_a a_o part_n of_o god_n service_n may_v not_o such_o kneel_v be_v judge_v if_o not_o a_o gross_a 29._o mock_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v the_o soldier_n bow_v of_o knee_n before_o he_o yet_o a_o take_n of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a see_v all_o signification_n of_o honour_n in_o god_n service_n aught_o to_o be_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o his_o name_n &_o a_o oath_n not_o religious_o intend_v as_o in_o 7._o the_o nature_n thereof_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v to_o the_o hovour_n of_o god_n be_v 2._o the_o take_n of_o god_n name_n in_o vain_a pro._n be_v kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n a_o sign_n a_o solemn_a yea_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n by_o your_o own_o confession_n and_o may_v not_o yea_o can_v that_o solemn_a that_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n at_o the_o receive_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n at_o the_o communion_n be_v express_v without_o sin_n which_o be_v your_o proposition_n who_o observe_v &_o believe_v these_o your_o word_n which_o be_v most_o true_a but_o will_v fall_v into_o a_o loathe_n of_o the_o say_a assertion_n but_o your_o say_a proposition_n be_v not_o more_o odious_a than_o your_o say_n that_o the_o most_o solemn_a kind_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n be_v false_a and_o slanderous_a for_o neither_o do_v all_o church_n in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n either_o use_n to_o kneel_v or_o kneel_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n by_o institution_n of_o authority_n neither_o if_o some_o do_v kneel_v without_o such_o respect_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n be_v all_o church_n to_o be_v charge_v and_o blame_v for_o this_o fault_n but_o least_o of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o england_n where_o this_o sign_n this_o solemn_a this_o most_o solmne_v sign_n with_o all_o possible_a respect_n of_o reverence_n be_v give_v to_o god_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n where_o therefore_o this_o sign_n of_o reverence_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n give_v and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n in_o so_o high_a a_o part_n of_o god_n service_n
word_n contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n schis_n for_o he_o do_v first_o bless_v or_o pray_v and_o after_o give_v the_o element_n in_o a_o sacramental_a form_n of_o word_n without_o any_o addition_n say_v take_v eat_v etc._n etc._n which_o order_n of_o administration_n and_o form_n of_o word_n matthew_n mark_v luke_n and_o 24._o paul_n do_v so_o constant_o precise_o and_o sincere_o relate_v that_o any_o may_v perceive_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o be_v that_o the_o sacramental_a form_n of_o word_n ought_v to_o be_v observe_v without_o any_o addition_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o paul_n begin_v his_o relation_n thus_o i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o have_v also_o deliver_v etc._n etc._n pro._n we_o stand_v against_o the_o papist_n we_o stand_v likewise_o against_o you_o schismatic_n that_o in_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n we_o keep_v we_o most_o precise_o to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n neither_o shall_v you_o nor_o they_o ever_o prove_v that_o we_o swerve_v therefrom_o there_o be_v action_n to_o be_v do_v of_o pastor_n after_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v action_n of_o the_o people_n after_o the_o example_n of_o the_o disciple_n there_o be_v thing_n necessary_a there_o be_v accessary_a there_o be_v substantial_a and_o unmutable_a there_o be_v accidental_a and_o changeable_a after_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n pastor_n be_v to_o bless_v the_o 23._o bread_n and_o wine_n by_o call_v on_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o open_v the_o institution_n with_o prayer_n and_o to_o break_v the_o bread_n which_o be_v to_o be_v eat_v and_o the_o cup_n which_o be_v to_o be_v drink_v and_o to_o deliver_v both_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n into_o the_o people_n hand_n with_o thanksgiving_n on_o the_o other_o side_n it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o the_o flock_n to_o examine_v themselves_o 1._o to_o try_v both_o their_o knowledge_n as_o also_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n to_o declare_v the_o lord_n death_n that_o be_v by_o a_o true_a faith_n to_o assent_v unto_o his_o word_n and_o institution_n last_o of_o all_o to_o eat_v the_o bread_n take_v from_o the_o minister_n hand_n and_o to_o drink_v the_o wine_n with_o thanksgiving_n this_o be_v paul_n and_o the_o apostle_n liturgy_n say_v beza_n and_o be_v it_o not_o the_o liturgy_n of_o our_o church_n at_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o communion_n the_o take_n of_o bread_n be_v necessary_a we_o take_v it_o thanksgiving_n that_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n eucharistical_a be_v necessary_a we_o 446._o be_v thankful_a the_o break_n of_o bread_n be_v necessary_a we_o break_v it_o the_o distribution_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v necessary_a we_o distribute_v they_o and_o that_o it_o be_v give_v only_o to_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v necessary_a we_o give_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n unto_o none_o but_o christian_n for_o all_o these_o thing_n pertain_v unto_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o supper_n say_v zanchie_a now_o what_o of_o these_o necessary_a thing_n either_o want_v we_o or_o do_v we_o not_o in_o our_o church_n if_o any_o thing_n we_o add_v it_o be_v but_o for_o the_o better_a set_n foth_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o stir_v up_o of_o good_a affection_n which_o may_v be_v do_v very_o well_o without_o offence_n to_o god_n after_o the_o example_n of_o god_n people_n jew_n and_o christian_n as_o afore_o more_o than_o once_o have_v be_v declare_v hence_o master_n calvin_n so_o much_o say_v he_o as_o concern_v 43._o the_o outward_a form_n of_o do_v or_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n whether_o the_o faithful_a receive_v it_o viz._n the_o bread_n in_o their_o hand_n or_o not_o whether_o they_o divide_v it_o or_o every_o one_o eat_v that_o which_o be_v give_v he_o whether_o they_o put_v the_o cup_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o deacon_n or_o deliver_v it_o to_o the_o next_o whether_o the_o bread_n be_v leaven_a or_o unleavened_a whether_o the_o wine_n be_v red_a or_o whit_n i_o may_v add_v whether_o we_o sit_v or_o kneel_v whether_o our_o payer_n and_o thankesgiving_n be_v long_o or_o short_a according_a to_o the_o time_n and_o occasion_n whether_o we_o use_v prayer_n or_o no_o at_o the_o delivery_n and_o receive_v the_o element_n it_o make_v no_o matter_n these_o thing_n be_v indifferent_a say_v calvin_n and_o leave_v at_o the_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o therefore_o you_o say_v that_o the_o very_a sacramental_a form_n of_o word_n ought_v preciselie_o to_o be_v observe_v without_o any_o addition_n i_o say_v not_o to_o the_o sense_n and_o substance_n of_o matter_n but_o to_o the_o very_a word_n as_o if_o keep_v we_o to_o the_o same_o sense_n we_o use_v other_o word_n or_o more_o word_n or_o in_o another_o form_n though_o to_o the_o same_o holy_a end_n and_o purpose_n be_v unlawful_a and_o a_o add_v unto_o christ_n his_o institution_n and_o so_o a_o sin_n liable_a to_o the_o heavy_a curse_n of_o god_n be_v doctrine_n strange_a hithereto_o not_o witness_v by_o the_o church_n of_o god_n schis_n it_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v against_o religion_n and_o reason_n that_o to_o a_o sacramental_a form_n of_o speech_n wherein_o the_o minister_n shall_v only_o supply_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n there_o shall_v be_v add_v a_o prayer_n as_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n this_o confusion_n be_v fit_a for_o babylon_n than_o for_o zion_n pro._n that_o christ_n say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n the_o scripture_n do_v manifest_a but_o either_o that_o christ_n use_v no_o more_o word_n tend_v to_o prayer_n thanksgiving_n exhortation_n or_o instruction_n or_o tie_v his_o minister_n to_o those_o very_a and_o only_a word_n no_o scripture_n do_v show_v no_o writter_n say_v but_o yourself_o neither_o do_v it_o seem_v that_o any_o sound_a religion_n and_o little_a reason_n be_v in_o he_o that_o so_o say_v be_v fit_a to_o come_v from_o one_o of_o the_o brat_n of_o babylon_n than_o from_o any_o child_n of_o zion_n schis_n why_o be_v not_o a_o short_a prayer_n 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