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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n this_o do_v as_o often_o as_o you_o shall_v drink_v it_o in_o my_o remembrance_n &c_n &c_n so_o do_v s._n cypryan_n manifest_o lib._n 2._o ep._n 3._o caecilio_n quòd_fw-la si_fw-la &_o à _fw-la domino_fw-la praecipitur_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la apostolo_fw-la eius_fw-la hoc_fw-la idem_fw-la confirmatur_fw-la &_o traditur_fw-la ut_fw-la quotiesâ—unque_fw-la biberimus_fw-la in_fw-la commemorationem_fw-la domini_fw-la hoc_fw-la faciamus_fw-la quod_fw-la facit_fw-la &_o dominus_fw-la invenimur_fw-la non_fw-la obseruari_fw-la à _fw-la nobiâ—_fw-la quod_fw-la mandatum_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la eadem_fw-la quae_fw-la dominus_fw-la fecit_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la faciamus_fw-la et_fw-la calicem_fw-la pari_fw-la ratione_fw-la miscentes_fw-la à _fw-la divino_fw-la magisterio_fw-la non_fw-la recedamus_fw-la if_o then_o it_o be_v command_v by_o the_o lord_n &_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v confirm_v and_o deliver_v by_o his_o apostle_n that_o so_o often_o as_o we_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d communicator_n of_o the_o altar_n and_o they_o that_o take_v part_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o gentile_n he_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d communicator_n with_o devil_n and_o return_v to_o the_o christian_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o can_v partake_v of_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o of_o the_o table_n of_o devil_n wherefore_o in_o that_o translation_n there_o be_v neither_o falsification_n nor_o corruption_n great_a or_o small_a the_o last_o fault_n be_v 1._o cor._n 10._o in_o the_o place_n by_o i_o cite_v we_o all_o partake_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o shall_v the_o english_v of_o the_o one_o bread_n for_o such_o strength_n have_v the_o greek_a article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o sometime_o the_o common_a bible_n turn_v the_o greek_a article_n
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you_o see_v he_o overthrow_v in_o his_o own_o argument_n other_o matter_n not_o incident_a to_o the_o present_a controversy_n i_o omit_v as_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o baptism_n at_o the_o same_o instant_n do_v wash_v the_o soul_n from_o sin_n as_o though_o the_o effect_n of_o baptism_n extend_v no_o far_o then_o to_o the_o time_n of_o wash_v with_o water_n likewise_o that_o the_o outward_a pronounce_v of_o the_o word_n over_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o sacrament_n whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o when_o the_o sound_n of_o the_o word_n be_v once_o past_a it_o be_v no_o long_o a_o sacrament_n and_o consequent_o the_o papist_n must_v not_o call_v that_o which_o they_o worship_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n cap._n xi_o what_o sign_n must_v chief_o be_v respect_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o saunder_n christ_n supper_n and_o what_o a_o sacrament_n be_v there_o be_v if_o we_o believe_v saunder_n four_o kind_n of_o sign_n fulk_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 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〈…〉_o oud_a of_o christ_n and_o yet_o no_o necessity_n of_o real_a presence_n 〈…〉_o ereby_o enforce_v last_o of_o all_o chrysostome_n be_v cite_v in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 28._o 〈…〉_o at_o the_o receiver_n need_v to_o consider_v nothing_o else_o but_o 〈…〉_o ho_o be_v set_v forth_o and_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o thing_n set_v 〈…〉_o rth_o therefore_o say_v saunder_n it_o be_v not_o bread_n and_o 〈…〉_o ine_z that_o be_v set_v forth_o but_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n 〈◊〉_d answer_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v set_v forth_o by_o 〈…〉_o e_o visible_a creature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n neither_o do_v 〈…〉_o hrysostome_n otherwise_o teach_v in_o all_o his_o write_n although_o entreat_v of_o so_o high_a a_o mystery_n he_o speak_v many_o time_n figurative_o and_o hyperbollical_o as_o hom._n 6._o he_o say_v the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v be_v the_o place_n of_o angel_n the_o place_n of_o archangel_n the_o palace_n of_o heaven_n heaven_n itself_o no_o &_o hîc_fw-la 〈…〉_o oelum_fw-la dubitas_fw-la mensam_fw-la istam_fw-la vide_fw-la cvius_fw-la gratia_fw-la constituta_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o quapropter_fw-la for_o do_v thou_o doubt_v that_o heaven_n be_v here_o behold_v this_o table_n for_o who_o cause_n and_o wherefore_o it_o be_v set_v cap._n xi_o no_o figure_n which_o be_v not_o in_o substance_n christ_n body_n can_v make_v saunder_n any_o man_n by_o eat_v it_o negligent_o guilty_a of_o christ_n natural_a body_n saunder_n confess_v that_o when_o a_o man_n by_o wilful_a contempt_n fulke_n do_v break_v or_o defile_v the_o king_n image_n it_o be_v repute_v all_o one_o as_o if_o he_o have_v strike_v the_o prince_n himself_o not_o because_o the_o deed_n be_v one_o but_o because_o his_o will_n be_v utter_v no_o less_o in_o abuse_v the_o sign_n then_o if_o he_o have_v injurious_o touch_v the_o prince_n himself_o but_o he_o say_v this_o similitude_n be_v not_o like_a because_o saint_n paul_n make_v his_o argument_n 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father_n do_v eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n unworthy_o for_o god_n be_v not_o please_v â—ith_n they_o as_o the_o apostole_fw-la say_v therefore_o they_o be_v guile_n 〈…〉_o e_o of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n if_o saunder_n will_v reply_v â—nd_n say_v it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o that_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v first_o 〈◊〉_d paul_n say_v express_o the_o rock_n be_v christ_n of_o who_o we_o 〈…〉_o te_fw-mi and_o drink_v s._n augustine_n de_fw-fr utilitate_fw-la poenitentioe_n cap._n 2_o â—aith_o express_o they_o do_v eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n that_o 〈…〉_o ve_fw-la do_v for_o manna_n be_v christ_n unto_o they_o cyrill_n in_o joan._n 〈…〉_o b_o 3._o cap._n 34._o say_v that_o christ_n by_o the_o figure_n of_o manna_n be_v give_v unto_o those_o old_a father_n the_o like_a by_o analogy_n be_v prove_v of_o all_o other_o sacrament_n but_o saunder_n repli_v the_o â—ewes_n must_v then_o have_v prepare_v &_o examine_v themselves_o â—uerie_n day_n which_o be_v not_o 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embrace_v we_o dwell_v in_o our_o body_n real_o substantial_o etc._n etc._n saunder_n if_o you_o have_v say_v by_o his_o incarnation_n he_o dwell_v naturaly_a in_o we_o or_o we_o in_o he_o that_o say_v may_v have_v a_o true_a sense_n but_o to_o say_v that_o his_o body_n dwell_v in_o our_o body_n not_o only_o natural_o but_o also_o real_o etc._n etc._n it_o seem_v to_o i_o very_o hard_a fulke_n his_o nativity_n import_v his_o incarnation_n and_o what_o mean_v you_o by_o natural_o but_o in_o the_o truth_n and_o real_a substance_n of_o his_o body_n after_o a_o natural_a manner_n saunder_n christ_n take_v not_o the_o common_a general_a substance_n of_o all_o mankind_n but_o only_o the_o whole_a particular_a nature_n of_o man_n fulke_n saunder_n fight_v against_o his_o own_o shadow_n for_o here_o be_v no_o man_n that_o say_v against_o he_o and_o so_o through_o the_o whole_a chapter_n whereas_o master_n jewel_n defend_v the_o phrase_n of_o speak_v christ_n body_n dwell_v real_o etc._n etc._n 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but_o he_o can_v wind_v himself_o out_o of_o this_o fallacia_fw-la to_o dwell_v in_o all_o man_n by_o participation_n of_o common_a nature_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o one_o whole_a body_n to_o be_v whole_a in_o ten_o thousand_o place_n be_v another_o thing_n cap._n xvii_o saunder_n whether_o christ_n body_n dwell_v in_o our_o body_n by_o faith_n real_o or_o no._n fulke_n the_o question_n shall_v be_v whether_o this_o manner_n of_o speech_n in_o some_o sense_n may_v not_o be_v justify_v saunder_n master_n jewel_n phrase_n defend_v joan_n of_o kent_n heresy_n fulke_n if_o he_o have_v say_v the_o virgin_n mary_n conceive_v christ_n by_o faith_n in_o her_o heart_n more_o happy_o then_o carnal_o in_o her_o womb_n in_o affirm_v the_o one_o he_o have_v not_o deny_v the_o other_o and_o yet_o he_o have_v say_v nothing_o but_o the_o truth_n do_v not_o whole_a christ_n dwell_v in_o the_o godly_a by_o faith_n before_o his_o incarnation_n do_v they_o not_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n by_o faith_n before_o his_o body_n be_v conceive_v in_o the_o virgin_n womb_n if_o these_o say_n be_v true_a the_o other_o phrase_n according_a to_o this_o sense_n may_v be_v defend_v cap._n xviii_o saunder_n the_o contradiction_n of_o m._n jewel_n concern_v christ_n real_o dwell_v in_o we_o by_o faith_n and_o not_o real_o dwell_v in_o we_o by_o faith_n fulke_n if_o the_o word_n real_o may_v be_v take_v in_o diverse_a sense_n what_o contradiction_n be_v there_o when_o he_o say_v christ_n dwell_v in_o we_o real_o by_o faith_n the_o word_n real_o be_v make_v opposite_a to_o imaginative_o figured_o or_o fantastical_o and_o signify_v christ_n in_o deed_n be_v communicate_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o incarnation_n death_n passion_n resurrection_n etc._n etc._n where_o he_o say_v christ_n be_v not_o real_o and_o fleshly_a place_v in_o our_o heart_n by_o faith_n the_o word_n real_o be_v opposite_a to_o faith_n which_o be_v a_o substance_n of_o thing_n to_o be_v hope_v foâ—_n which_o be_v not_o actual_o present_a &_o signify_v that_o the_o natural_a substance_n of_o christ_n flesh_n lie_v not_o local_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o heart_n according_a to_o these_o two_o signification_n what_o contradiction_n be_v there_o but_o that_o you_o be_v dispose_v to_o cavil_v cap._n xix_o saunder_n whether_o christ_n dwell_v real_o in_o our_o body_n by_o baptism_n or_o no._n fulke_n this_o saying_n may_v be_v justify_v in_o the_o affirmative_a as_o well_o as_o that_o he_o dwell_v real_o in_o our_o body_n by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o supper_n the_o diverse_a understanding_n of_o the_o word_n real_o make_v all_o the_o controversy_n in_o this_o matter_n m._n jewel_n take_v it_o in_o one_o sense_n m._n saunder_n in_o another_o not_o ignorant_o mistake_v but_o wilful_o &_o malicious_o