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A17000 A require of agreement to the groundes of divinitie studie wherin great scholers falling, & being caught of Iewes disgrace the Gospel: & trap them to destruction. By H.B. Broughton, Hugh, 1549-1612. 1611 (1611) STC 3882; ESTC S105815 59,597 104

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afflicting Iudah But Deut. 32. told the Rock would helpe them at the worst as Dan. 12. telleth So against the Romanes sea Apoc. 13. The same terme Rock is a promesse against Rome nor for Rome And Peter was never nearer Rome then Ioppe Origen Tertullian Euseb auctors after 250. yeres of Peters being in Rome are a Egyptian Rede that will prick the hand S. Luke that noteth lesse townes where S. Peter was would never have omitted his being in Rome if ever he had bene there And he that expreslie telleth of him selfe he was in Babylon to shew the Prophecy Psal 87. that Babel and proud Egypt should yeeld a people to God 1. Pet. 5. in his second Epistle pronouncing the letter A in by an S. which Chaldaea did as Daniels speech teacheth and Thalmud Ierusalemy in Megilah R. Azarias in Balaams father Bosor for Beor at Rome by the 70. he might haue taught any maide whence the Galilean wrote by his voice So Rock is expreslie against Rome not for it But will try you with a second Syllogisme If Rome crucified Christ it is vnpossible for God to blesse Rome with any hast or Perogative longe S. Paul was kept back But the first is true by Balaam Num. 24. and the foure Evange listes in Pilate and the Romane Soldiers Therfore Rome for any prerogative must still goe on to destruction as Balaam Numb 24. Apoc. 17. doe vse the phrase Answere Rome as it is the seat of the Empire it is cursed But as it is the Church it is blessed Reply Your Pope is farre aboue all Emperors as ye deeme therefore as your church depēdeth vpon him ye are openly cursed Here I gave place to others as reason would the commencer gaue certen Battes to the Repliers and the Bedell brought so to me and they requested me not to refuse thē This disputatiō was celebrated by the very Iesuites over the Empire that none could answer the arguments And for all that I am to teach you they cōfesse that all mine extant in Ebrew Greek or Latin they allow And for all that they haue more I reiect it These be vaine dreames that one Apostle could be above another That Peter was at Rome that any cā bind or lose sinnes but by teaching what bindeth what loseth that one man should in Divinitie be above all that the Barbarous Latin should exclude the Hebrew law where thousands of names as in the book of Numbers haue plain sentences vnder thē But in other tongues we speak them to lesse comfort And so the new Testam in Greek hath every word as a Pearle to them that can tell from what Heathen the floure of Athens they be taken or in what imitation of the 70. or Thalmudique for weightie common places or which turne eloquent Greeke to Beryllike or Carbuncle-like termes of the Law and Prophetes One skilfull in Greek and Ebrew shall in reading the New Testament runne in memorie through all Attique and Thalmudique The Latin is to the Greeke but as a stutter to eloquent And a Babylonian curse came to the world when the Grace of our Lord Iesus Christ in the tongues of Heber and the Greeke was despised and a latepatched barbarous came in steede of it The plague of Rome by Alaricus and Gensericus and Theodoricus and Totilas that pilled Rome might haue warned them of preferring the Barbarous before the Holy The next wickednes is this That any should commaunde any of the simplest not to read the Bible or any learned requested by a companie not to expound it If the Synagogue of the Bridge-makers at Thymbris had taught Rome everie day of the Lord Iohns Apocalyps they had not bene now in dispute for Faith and Dominion By the groundes which they must graunt and I would bring to you no one whit of Bible will serve the Bridge-maker of Rome as Sozimus termeth him The mainteyning of a Barbarous Schoole Latin and wicked Aristotles false groundes giveth him colour of Prate If Graecia ruled studies as after the Apostles dayes it did six hundreth yeares and your Thalmudique studies were ioyned to shew that our Apostles have nothing but by your graunt it had bene plain of old I will anon plead your cōsent with me and now tell you that the mysterie of Godlines that God in the flesh reconcileth the world vnto himselfe this your Doctours speake but knew not what they spake In other poinctes your olde Scribes better cleare our Apostles then any of our owne side by reason that their disputations are vpon Moyses to their vein hard to vs easie to you Then for the Churches good I neede not to feare blames In England by our Kings commaundement through the Earle of Pembrok I gave advertisment of strange corruption in our handling of Religion They saw it was soundly done to the common good and all spake well of it Wee conspire not as your Thalmudiques doe to be the scūme of the world to deny 80. yeares from the Poloponnesian warres to Alexander Macedon men of all Kingdomes Persian and Greekes and so over all the world ever to have bene in course of nature Such dogges ye are to defeet the Angel Gabriels prophecy Now for Geneveans Marpurgeans and Hanoveans none of fame crosse me So your obiection is fonde And for hindring Princes I sought not to them nor ever will And I have answered them so in a Latin Epistle My owne K. is able enough and was willing but for some hinderers Now I will shew Rabbi Elias your appointed Oratour towardes me his attendance to me at Basil to our Apocalyps and the Epistle of S. Paul to you Ebrewes I will now lay downe the sum of both as expounded vnto him in your vein and by your Authours I will in dialogue handle a speach had with Rabby Elias at Basil For Dialogue as in Plato and Tully hath shortnes Thus I began Br. I preceave by your eloquent speach that you are the Rabbi which in Francfurt synagoge disputed with me denying nothing that you knewe true Eli. I am the man And I gladly heard you drawe all the Lawe to Messias and I celebrated you to all nations and gladly would I heare more Br. and gladly would I teach you And that you may wonder at the Fishers of Galily I will take ourlast book penned by Iohn the Apostle speaking how Cittim or Italy shall afflict the true Israel vntil the end of light with darknes Balaam spake of Assur and Cittim By Assur hee meant them that possessed Assyria and dwelt in the East as Salmanasars house Chaldea and Persia and Macedonians All these held Assyria and the Persian King Son to Esther is called King of Assyr in Ezra as Cyrus King of Babel But the Empire of Italy stayde in Italy and by Deputies afflicted so it is as equally great to al the former as if they had ben so many kingdoms The storie you know howe the Romanes pretending friendship in the beginning at
that your Q. hath rare regard of scholers Br. I will endevour to give you brieflie the summe of this booke frō Iohns speach in his owne native maner his Visions for the time praesent and to come The first speech of Iohn sheweth how the Sonne hath received frō the Father a revealing of the Churches case vnto the last iudgement and resurrection and Iohn the Disciple whom the Lord loved is talked with by an Angell and spoken too by Christ And Iohn exclameth what goodnes cōmeth from this revelation that it maketh the Reader happie and he commendeth the worke to seaven Churches of the Lande of Gog where Iewes were scattered by the Macedonians the farthest Westward of their dispersion and were fit instruments to save vs poore heathen towards Sun set as afterward he made our poore coūtrey the ends of the earth the possession of Christ The blessing from the holy Trinitie the Eternall our God the Eternall is most heavenly and the acclamation of glorie to the Sonne from Fs 4. and Exod 19. warning of his iudgement when the second time he commeth in the cloudes as he came Dan. 7. to take manhood and from Zacharie his owne Gospell he teacheth Rome that pearced him handes feet and side that they shall see a Revenger And the Eternitie of the Sonne is manifest in that he is Agr and ω. the beginning and the end who is who was and wil be the Almightie Now he commeth to tell the opportunitie of the Visions He was banished into Patmos a small Iland neare Ephesus recorded onely but by name of Heathen obscure for any further storie Into this as out of the world Iohn of whom the world was not worthie was banished God turning Domitians tyrannie into a blessing that this desert Iland should have the state of the whole world set open Rabbi Elias Certenly this must be a strang blessing of God I am much bent to hear your speach and I consider the Law-giving how it was in the wildernes where none but Gods own should be partakers And as at the West of the Arke as at Sunne-setting of state the Dearest and last-borne Tribes were set Ioseph and Beniamin in Ephraim Beniamin and Manasses to shew that the Lord doeth stretch his power to the furthest off So I deeme that in the furthest quarters of our dispersion West-ward as before Ephraim Beniamin and Manasses GOD would stirre vp his strength and come and helpe vs. Thus farre I can goe after you have drawe me on Br. The basenes of this Iland hath a further signification to teach that the obscure places shall most have the glory of God As all men be wicked naturallie and one pricketh forward another so a great Citie such as Aristides the Rhetor Sophister maketh Rome will soone become a world of wickednes But Patmos now telleth that the Church shal be in the wildernes as in chap. 7. it is not evident by open shew but as in Ierusalem vnder Sedekias Ezek 9. when an Angel sealeth them which belang to God so of vs heathen an Angell sealeth them that bee his when the open face of the Church was gone and the Dragon head and tayle driveth the Church into the wildernes and the beast compounded of Daniels foure once dead and revived but of purple colour and having a Rider a Woman in scarlat drunk with the blood of the Sainctes this drove the Church into the Wildernes through a fea of troubles mixt with fire and fagot Rab. Eli. I admire these visiones and cannot gainsay them Br. The time is more wond●●full then the place Rab. What terme have yee of the time Br. The Lords day Rab. What day is that Br. The first day of the weeke Rab. And why is the Sabbath altered Br. I will tell you large matter brieflie The first day Elohim the adviser and worker of the worldes frame made heaven with the Angels and Earth and Light and the Angels the morning Starres who confirmed by feare and tremblinge their strength which in wisedome and holines was not so perfect but that they might fall these starres showted to see the earth hange in the middes of the ayer and the Waters drawen to their chanels and the roaring Sea threatening to drownd the Lande returning from the shoare as by Gods checkes so when they saw the Cloudes fastened in the skie and all workes that way they showted No lesse at Sunne Moone and Starres and plantes trees hearbes at Foules from Eagle to Wren and fish from Whale to shrimpe and beastes with Crepers from Elephant to Antes they glorified God the creatours Hearing a voice saying Let this be and it stood Now when God the Creatours the Father Sonne and holy Ghost was to make Man that should have knowledge of the Eternal Trinitie he dwelling in light that none can come too speaketh Let vs make man according to our likenes and let them be Lordes over beastes fish and foules and God made Man after his owne image and bringeth all beastes and foules before Adam and he giveth them names expressing their nature as wisely as Angels could And seeing that it was not good for Adam to be alone hee maketh Eue out of his Ribbe and then carieth both into Paradise and giveth commaundement to both in the singular number as they were one flesh Rab● You in the endes of the earth search the Law exactly It must needes be holden that the Woman was made before the Law was given As shee telleth the meaning to be of both ye shall eat of all the trees of the Garden but of the tree of knowledge of evill and good ye shall not eate for the day ye eat of it yee shall die All this was the sixt day And before this commaundement was given God gave his Angells care over man as you hold them spirites sent foorth to minister for them that shall inherite salvation Great armies of Spirites not reverencing so fully as they should Gods counsell though when Man was made they were very good as all creatures yet great armies of millions being left vnto their owne sway hated mans superioritie and kept not their standing but became of poysonfull hatred against God and by leave went into the serpent and deceaved Eua before shee was called Eve and she drew the man to sinne and about time of Eating they ate the tree fruite Generally all tree fruites be MELA Apples And at the Evening God called them to iudgement and pronounceth Eternall cōdemnation against the Devils and all the wicked that shal be borne of that poyson that the serpent breathed into Eve and not regenerated by water of Law and spirit moving vpon it which spirit ye truely say to be the spirit of Christ This sad storie fell the sixt day And then is the promesse that one shall come to be a man according to the kinde whose footesteps and handes Satan the old serpent shall pearce but he shall bruse all his power and destroy his workes The