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A80608 The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1647 (1647) Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836 257,083 342

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he_o prove_v it_o from_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o tolerate_v corrupt_a person_n for_o can_v we_o think_v say_v he_o that_o person_n must_v be_v now_o tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n in_o the_o superstitious_a forbear_n or_o forbid_v of_o flesh_n in_o popish_a lent_n and_o friday_n such_o be_v the_o inconstancy_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n who_o heart_n be_v not_o stay_v and_o steer_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n that_o sometime_o tare_n must_v not_o be_v corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n but_o person_n because_o tare_n and_o so_o person_n must_v be_v tolerate_v till_o the_o harvest_n not_o so_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n and_o yet_o all_o the_o reason_n give_v why_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n must_v not_o be_v tolerate_v be_v this_o because_o person_n that_o hold_v they_o forth_o must_v not_o be_v tolerate_v chap._n 20._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o twenty_o chapter_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o tare_n discusser_n the_o original_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v all_o those_o weed_n which_o spring_v up_o with_o the_o corn_n as_o cockle_n darnel_n tare_n etc._n etc._n seem_v to_o imply_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o people_n as_o be_v common_o and_o general_o know_v to_o be_v manifest_o differ_v from_o and_o opposite_a to_o the_o true_a worshipper_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signifi_v all_o those_o weed_n that_o grow_v up_o with_o the_o corne._n for_o they_o be_v a_o special_a weed_n grow_v up_o chief_o among_o the_o wheat_n but_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o ear_n it_o grow_v more_o like_a to_o barley_n yet_o have_v a_o narrow_a leaf_n fat_a and_o rough_a and_o a_o lean_a seed_n in_o a_o prickly_a bark_n bear_v a_o purple_a flower_n as_o dioscorides_n testify_v now_o this_o be_v far_o from_o a_o description_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o weed_n that_o grow_v up_o with_o corne._n 2._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o tare_n be_v common_o and_o general_o know_v assoon_o as_o they_o appear_v for_o hierom_n who_o for_o a_o time_n live_v in_o jury_n testify_v that_o inter_fw-la triticum_fw-la et_fw-la zizania_fw-la quod_fw-la nos_fw-la appellamus_fw-la lolium_fw-la quamdiu_fw-la herba_fw-la est_fw-la et_fw-la nondum_fw-la culmus_fw-la venit_fw-la ad_fw-la spicam_fw-la grandis_fw-la similitudo_fw-la est_fw-la et_fw-la in_o discernendo_fw-la aut_fw-la nulla_fw-la aut_fw-la perdifficilis_fw-la distantia_fw-la comment_fw-fr mat._n cap._n 13._o yea_o the_o text_n itself_o though_o the_o discusser_v deny_v it_o hold_v forth_o as_o much_o for_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o husbandman_n in_o who_o field_n the_o tare_n be_v sow_v by_o the_o enemy_n do_v not_o discern_v the_o tare_n from_o the_o wheat_n till_o the_o blade_n be_v spring_v up_o and_o bring_v forth_o fruit_n for_o than_o it_o be_v and_o not_o till_o then_o that_o the_o tare_n appear_v to_o be_v tare_n mat._n 13.26_o what_o though_o the_o text_n hold_v forth_o no_o such_o time_n wherein_o the_o servant_n doubt_v or_o suspect_v what_o they_o be_v it_o be_v like_a enough_o they_o do_v not_o suspect_v they_o at_o all_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o grandis_fw-la similitudo_fw-la the_o great_a likeness_n that_o be_v between_o they_o while_o they_o be_v both_o in_o the_o blade_n which_o still_o make_v good_a the_o exposition_n that_o tare_n be_v not_o briar_n and_o thorn_n but_o so_o like_a to_o the_o wheat_n that_o till_o they_o come_v to_o ear_n the_o one_o can_v be_v discern_v from_o the_o other_o discusser_n the_o one_o appear_v as_o soon_o as_o the_o other_o and_o when_o the_o wheat_n put_v forth_o its_o blade_n and_o fruit_n the_o tare_n be_v as_o early_o they_o put_v forth_o themselves_o and_o appear_v also_o 2._o there_o be_v such_o a_o dissimilitude_n and_o unlikeness_n between_o they_o that_o as_o soon_o as_o tare_n and_o wheat_n spring_v up_o to_o blade_n and_o fruit_n every_o husbandman_n can_v tell_v which_o be_v wheat_n and_o which_o be_v tare_n defender_n it_o be_v true_a the_o tare_n put_v forth_o their_o blade_n assoon_o as_o do_v the_o wheat_n and_o appear_v above_o ground_n one_o as_o early_o as_o the_o other_o but_o they_o be_v so_o like_o one_o to_o a_o other_o that_o the_o husbandman_n can_v not_o tell_v which_o be_v wheat_n and_o which_o tare_n till_o the_o blade_n be_v grow_v up_o and_o they_o both_o bring_v forth_o their_o fruit_n and_o though_o when_o they_o both_o bring_v forth_o their_o fruit_n there_o be_v no_o apparent_a dimissilitude_n yet_o still_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o at_o first_o the_o dimssilitude_n do_v not_o appear_v the_o tare_n may_v therefore_o still_o stand_v for_o hypocrite_n who_o be_v so_o like_a at_o first_o unto_o good_a christian_n that_o they_o can_v easy_o be_v discern_v one_o from_o another_o till_o in_o process_n of_o time_n the_o difference_n of_o the_o fruit_n discover_v they_o discusser_n but_o when_o be_v it_o that_o the_o householder_n give_v charge_n to_o let_v they_o alone_o be_v it_o not_o after_o they_o appear_v and_o be_v know_v to_o be_v tare_n which_o shall_v imply_v by_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o answerer_n that_o when_o man_n be_v discover_v and_o know_v to_o be_v hypocrite_n yet_o still_o such_o a_o generation_n of_o hypocrite_n in_o the_o church_n must_v be_v let_v alone_o and_o tolerate_v until_o the_o harvest_n or_o end_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n order_n and_o safety_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n as_o doubtless_o the_o answerer_n will_v grant_v defender_n if_o the_o answerer_n know_v his_o own_o mind_n as_o well_o as_o the_o discusser_v doubtless_o the_o answerer_n will_v not_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n and_o order_n and_o safety_n that_o hypocrite_n know_v hypocrite_n be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o though_o it_o be_v against_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n when_o the_o officer_n or_o body_n of_o the_o church_n prove_v hypocrite_n for_o that_o threaten_v a_o dischurching_a rev._n 2.5_o yet_o till_o the_o fruit_n of_o hypocrisy_n grow_v notorious_o scandalous_a and_o ripe_a for_o church-censure_n it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n and_o order_n &_o safety_n to_o suffer_v they_o but_o rather_o more_o safety_n to_o suffer_v they_o lest_o some_o of_o god_n own_o saint_n true_a wheat_n who_o for_o a_o time_n may_v degenerate_v and_o bring_v forth_o like_o fruit_n with_o the_o tare_n be_v pluck_v up_o with_o they_o if_o foolish_a virgin_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o wise_a virgin_n may_v be_v sometime_o find_v sleep_v as_o well_o as_o they_o mat._n 25.5_o chap._n 21._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 21._o what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o world_n and_o more_o of_o the_o tare_n discusser_n 2._o the_o tare_n can_v signify_v hypocrite_n in_o the_o church_n for_o
the_o field_n wherein_o they_o both_o grow_v be_v interpret_v by_o christ_n himself_o to_o be_v the_o world_n which_o lie_v in_o wickedness_n and_o be_v a_o wilderness_n of_o wild_a beast_n fornicator_n covetous_a idolator_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o world_n as_o soon_o as_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v sow_v the_o good_a seed_n the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n true_a christianity_n or_o the_o true_a church_n the_o enemy_n satan_n present_o in_o the_o night_n of_o security_n ignorance_n and_o error_n sow_v the_o tare_n which_o be_v antichristian_n or_o false_a christian_n those_o the_o minister_n and_o prophet_n of_o god_n will_v straight_o run_v to_o heaven_n for_o fiery_a judgement_n from_o thence_o to_o consume_v they_o but_o the_o son_n of_o man_n command_v a_o permission_n of_o they_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n when_o goat_n and_o sheep_n tare_n and_o wheat_n shall_v be_v eternal_o separate_v etc._n etc._n defender_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v true_a christ_n expound_v the_o field_n to_o be_v the_o world_n ver_fw-la 38._o but_o he_o mean_v not_o the_o wide_a world_n but_o by_o a_o usual_a trope_n the_o church_n scatter_v throughout_o the_o world_n as_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o have_v love_v the_o world_n joh._n 3.16_o and_o to_o be_v the_o propitiation_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n 1_o joh._n 2.2_o reas_n 1._o else_o there_o have_v be_v no_o place_n for_o the_o servant_n wonder_v at_o the_o appear_v of_o the_o tare_n sir_n do_v not_o thou_o sow_v good_a seed_n in_o thy_o field_n from_o whence_o then_o have_v it_o tare_n ver_fw-la 27._o do_v ever_o any_o of_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n wonder_n or_o see_v any_o cause_n to_o wonder_n that_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v full_a of_o fornicator_n idolater_n murderer_n robber_n &_o c_o be_v it_o ever_o otherwise_o since_o the_o world_n be_v replenish_v with_o inhabitant_n reas_n 2._o what_o calling_n have_v the_o minister_n or_o prophet_n of_o christ_n to_o offer_v to_o pluck_v up_o all_o such_o notorious_a vicious_a person_n out_o of_o the_o world_n do_v ever_o any_o minister_n of_o christ_n demand_v such_o a_o question_n of_o christ_n will_v thou_o have_v we_o go_v and_o gather_v up_o all_o notorious_a vicious_a person_n out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o they_o do_v indeed_o demand_v the_o like_o concern_v these_o tare_n in_o christ_n field_n ver_fw-la 28._o reas_n 3._o the_o discusser_v himself_o reckon_v up_o goat_n and_o sheep_n as_o parallel_v with_o wheat_n and_o tare_n as_o general_o interpreter_n do_v now_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o goat_n be_v clean_a beast_n as_o well_o as_o sheep_n clean_o for_o food_n yea_o and_o clean_o also_o for_o sacrifice_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v tolerate_v not_o only_o to_o live_v in_o the_o same_o world_n but_o in_o the_o same_o church_n for_o after_o the_o destruction_n of_o antichrist_n when_o pure_a time_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v come_v the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v all_o of_o they_o be_v virgin_n none_o idolater_n though_o some_o wise_a and_o some_o foolish_a all_o of_o they_o servant_n though_o some_o thirsty_a some_o unprofitable_a all_o of_o they_o clean_o though_o some_o goat_n some_o sheep_n and_o therefore_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v the_o church_n be_v at_o that_o time_n resemble_v to_o such_o a_o mix_a state_n after_o the_o ruin_n of_o antichrist_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o jew_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n to_o judgement_n mat._n 25.1_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 2._o if_o the_o field_n shall_v be_v the_o world_n and_o the_o tare_n antichristian_n and_o false_a christian_n it_o be_v true_a satan_n sow_v they_o in_o god_n field_n but_o he_o sow_v they_o in_o the_o church_n the_o mystery_n of_o their_o iniquity_n do_v secret_o work_v in_o the_o very_a bosom_n of_o the_o church_n till_o in_o process_n of_o time_n it_o grow_v so_o rank_a and_o gross_a as_o transform_v the_o church_n that_o drink_v it_o up_o into_o spiritual_a babylon_n but_o if_o antichrist_n be_v a_o apostate_n and_o antichristianitie_n apostasy_n than_o it_o be_v first_o sow_v in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o the_o wide_a world_n answ_n 3._o it_o be_v not_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n that_o antichrist_n and_o antichristian_o and_o antichristianitie_n shall_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o world_n until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o god_n will_v put_v it_o into_o the_o heart_n of_o faithful_a prince_n as_o they_o have_v give_v their_o kingdom_n to_o the_o beast_n so_o in_o fullness_n of_o time_n to_o hate_v the_o whore_n to_o leave_v her_o desolate_a and_o naked_a and_o to_o burn_v her_o flesh_n with_o fire_n rev._n 17.16_o 17._o and_o after_o this_o we_o read_v of_o a_o visible_a state_n of_o a_o new_a jerusalem_n which_o shall_v flourish_v many_o year_n upon_o earth_n before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n revel_v chap._n 20._o chap._n 21._o chap._n 22._o nevertheless_o i_o willing_o grant_v that_o the_o first_o fruit_n of_o antichristian_o and_o false_a christian_n may_v be_v reckon_v up_o among_o the_o tare_n which_o satan_n sow_v in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o church_n which_o afterward_o grow_v to_o be_v briar_n and_o thorn_n and_o so_o destructive_a to_o the_o wheat_n that_o the_o wheat_n can_v not_o be_v suffer_v if_o discern_v to_o live_v among_o they_o discusser_n but_o christ_n the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o father_n will_v never_o in_o open_v this_o parable_n so_o far_o obscure_v it_o or_o to_o call_v the_o church_n the_o world_n nor_o do_v it_o agree_v with_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o church_n or_o garden_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v style_v the_o world_n defender_n it_o be_v no_o impeachment_n to_o the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n to_o call_v his_o elect_a church_n and_o saint_n throughout_o the_o world_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o world_n else_o paul_n speak_v not_o by_o the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n when_o he_o say_v god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_a the_o world_n unto_o himself_o 2_o cor._n 5.19_o and_o though_o the_o church_n within_o itself_o be_v a_o garden_n and_o sever_v from_o the_o world_n yet_o all_o the_o church_n be_v scatter_v and_o disperse_v throughout_o the_o world_n it_o be_v no_o more_o a_o improper_a speech_n to_o call_v the_o church_n the_o world_n then_o to_o speak_v of_o christ_n as_o die_v for_o the_o world_n when_o he_o die_v for_o his_o church_n chap._n 22._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 22._o chapter_n more_o of_o tare_n discusser_n in_o the_o former_a parable_n the_o lord_n jesus_n compare_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n to_o the_o sow_v of_o seed_n the_o true_a messenger_n of_o christ_n be_v sower_n who_o cast_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o kingdom_n upon_o 4._o sort_n of_o ground_n which_o 4._o sort_n of_o ground_n or_o heart_n of_o man_n can_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n nor_o will_v it_o ever_o be_v prove_v that_o the_o church_n consist_v of_o any_o more_o sort_n or_o nature_n of_o ground_n proper_o but_o one_o to_o wit_n the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n and_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v the_o prosperity_n and_o flourish_a of_o this_o sort_n of_o ground_n and_o not_o of_o the_o other_o three_o sort_n in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o world_n then_o be_v all_o those_o sort_n of_o ground_n high-way-side_n stony_a thorney_a hearer_n as_o well_o as_o the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n and_o i_o suppose_v it_o will_v not_o be_v say_v by_o the_o answerer_n that_o these_o three_o sort_n of_o bad_a ground_n be_v hypocrite_n or_o tare_n in_o the_o church_n defender_n answ_n 1._o but_o what_o if_o the_o answerer_n will_v say_v so_o it_o may_v be_v contrary_a to_o his_o supposal_n but_o not_o to_o the_o truth_n for_o i_o demand_v do_v not_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v the_o chief_a sower_n do_v not_o he_o preach_v and_o sow_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o word_n to_o all_o those_o four_o sort_n of_o hearer_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o circumcision_n rom._n 15.8_o and_o preach_v seldom_o to_o any_o but_o to_o church-member_n member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n answ_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o say_v the_o church_n consist_v of_o no_o more_o sort_n of_o hearer_n but_o one_o the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n for_o if_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v in_o the_o church_n &_o of_o the_o church_n till_o they_o give_v occasion_n of_o rejection_n than_o they_o grow_v up_o to_o year_n become_v some_o of_o they_o like_o the_o high-way-side_n other_o like_o the_o stony_a other_o like_o the_o thorney_n as_o well_o as_o other_o like_o the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n answ_n 3._o though_o it_o be_v not_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o the_o church_n to_o attend_v the_o prosperity_n and_o flourish_a of_o the_o three_o sort_n of_o bad_a ground_n to_o
as_o have_v more_o than_o once_o or_o twice_o be_v attempt_v shall_v such_o a_o one_o by_o any_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n be_v let_v alone_o in_o the_o civil_a state_n moreover_o if_o popish_a priest_n and_o jesuit_n be_v right_o expound_v to_o be_v the_o river_n and_o fountain_n of_o water_n which_o drive_v the_o dead_a sea_n of_o antichristian_a pollution_n up_o and_o down_o all_o nation_n in_o europe_n and_o if_o they_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o some_o case_n to_o drink_v blood_n for_o they_o be_v worthy_a than_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v let_v alone_o but_o due_o suppress_v and_o cut_v off_o from_o convey_v up_o and_o down_o their_o idolatrous_a heretical_a and_o seditious_a wickedness_n rev._n 16.4_o to_o 7._o chap._n 25._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 25._o chapter_n still_o discuss_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o tare_n three_o the_o tare_n can_v be_v hypocrite_n be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o light_n because_o they_o when_o they_o be_v discover_v and_o see_v to_o 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worship_n will_v not_o a_o little_a leaven_n so_o tolerate_v leaven_n the_o whole_a lump_n and_o how_o then_o be_v the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n guard_v reply_n 3._o to_o his_o 3._o answ_n it_o be_v true_a the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v he_o and_o none_o of_o his_o elect_n shall_v perish_v but_o nevertheless_o be_v it_o not_o a_o tempt_a of_o god_n to_o presume_v upon_o god_n election_n for_o our_o salvation_n and_o to_o neglect_v the_o mean_n of_o our_o preservation_n in_o like_a case_n paul_n know_v by_o revelation_n that_o all_o his_o fellow_n passenger_n in_o the_o ship_n shall_v be_v save_v but_o yet_o he_o profess_v that_o if_o the_o mariner_n go_v out_o of_o the_o ship_n they_o can_v not_o be_v save_v act_n 27.24_o with_o 31._o so_o be_v it_o here_o the_o elect_n of_o god_n shall_v be_v save_v but_o yet_o if_o idolater_n and_o seducer_n be_v tolerate_v as_o jezabell_n be_v in_o thyatira_n to_o seduce_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n to_o pollution_n and_o apostasy_n the_o church_n will_v stand_v guilty_a before_o god_n of_o the_o seduction_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n reply_n 4._o to_o his_o 4_o answer_n the_o 2._o reason_n allege_v by_o he_o out_o of_o the_o text_n to_o the_o first_o there_o be_v no_o fear_n of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n by_o root_a out_o idolater_n and_o seducer_n if_o any_o of_o god_n people_n shall_v fall_v into_o idolatry_n and_o apostasy_n yea_o and_o shall_v prove_v a_o instrument_n to_o seduce_v other_o also_o into_o the_o like_a wickedness_n yet_o the_o censure_n inflict_v on_o they_o will_v be_v bless_v of_o god_n to_o their_o recovery_n &_o heal_a yea_o and_o if_o they_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o the_o civil_a sword_n yet_o the_o example_n and_o terror_n of_o their_o punishment_n will_v be_v bless_v of_o god_n to_o preserve_v their_o brethren_n who_o will_v all_o of_o they_o hear_v and_o fear_n and_o do_v no_o more_o such_o wickedness_n neither_o be_v the_o just_a punishment_n of_o such_o any_o just_a 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chap._n discusser_n to_o batter_v and_o take_v a_o strong_a hold_n or_o fort_n man_n bring_v not_o a_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n and_o after_o obstinacy_n excommunication_n but_o they_o bring_v canon_n culvering_n saker_n bullet_n powder_n musket_n sword_n pike_n weapon_n suitable_a and_o proportionable_a on_o the_o other_o side_n to_o batter_v down_o idolatry_n false_a worship_n heresy_n out_o of_o the_o soul_n and_o spirit_n it_o be_v vain_a improper_a unsuitable_a to_o bring_v the_o usual_a weapon_n of_o persecutor_n stock_n whip_n prison_n sword_n gibbtts_n stake_n but_o against_o these_o spiritual_a sirong_n hold_v in_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n spiritual_a artillery_n and_o weapon_n be_v proper_a and_o mighty_a through_o god_n to_o subdue_v every_o thought_n to_o obedience_n defender_n let_v this_o stand_n as_o it_o shall_v for_o i_o it_o nothing_o touch_v the_o question_n in_o hand_n it_o be_v far_o from_o i_o to_o allow_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o make_v use_n 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root_v out_o of_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n but_o by_o spiritual_a weapon_n but_o heretic_n and_o idolater_n may_v be_v restrain_v from_o the_o open_a practice_n and_o profession_n of_o their_o wickedness_n by_o the_o sword_n of_o justice_n and_o such_o weapon_n of_o righteousness_n discusser_n but_o though_o these_o weapon_n be_v proper_a yet_o they_o be_v unnecessary_a for_o if_o spiritual_a weapon_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church_n officer_n be_v able_a &_o mighty_a and_o sufficient_a and_o ready_a for_o the_o lord_n work_v either_o to_o save_v or_o to_o kill_v the_o soul_n etc._n etc._n how_o do_v the_o magistrate_n come_v in_o to_o help_v but_o as_o if_o the_o lord_n have_v no_o power_n defender_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a pretence_n in_o the_o mouth_n &_o pen_n of_o the_o discusser_n for_o he_o have_v cut_v off_o all_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o all_o church_n ordinance_n and_o church-weapon_n from_o off_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n for_o these_o many_o age_n past_a and_o i_o know_v not_o for_o how_o many_o year_n yet_o to_o come_v if_o civil_a weapon_n be_v debar_v from_o defend_v religion_n upon_o pretence_n that_o church-weapon_n be_v sufficient_a and_o and_o then_o no_o church_n nor_o church_n weapon_n to_o be_v find_v upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n then_o let_v all_o seducer_n to_o apostasy_n idolater_n &_o heretic_n let_v they_o all_o rejoice_v in_o a_o open_a it_o of_o liberty_n &_o safety_n which_o the_o discusser_n have_v set_v wide_o open_a before_o they_o if_o civil_a state_n must_v not_o and_o church_n can_v come_v in_o to_o help_v the_o lord_n shall_v the_o curse_n of_o meroz_n be_v so_o avoid_v because_o the_o lord_n want_v not_o power_n to_o help_v himself_o but_o i_o may_v reply_v further_o that_o though_o spiritual_a weapon_n be_v mighty_a through_o god_n and_o sufficient_a to_o those_o end_n for_o which_o the_o lord_n appoint_v they_o which_o be_v to_o purge_v out_o leaven_n from_o their_o holy_a communion_n and_o to_o mortify_v the_o flesh_n of_o offender_n yet_o that_o be_v not_o supersedeas_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o neglect_v to_o punish_v those_o sin_n which_o the_o church_n have_v censure_v if_o the_o person_n censure_v do_v proceed_v to_o subvert_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o people_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o discusser_n discourse_n in_o this_o chapter_n be_v as_o judas_n speak_v cloud_n without_o water_n word_n without_o matter_n chap._n 46._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 46._o discuss_v rom._n 13._o discusser_n this_o scripture_n rom._n 13._o which_o it_o please_v the_o answerer_n to_o quote_v how_o have_v both_o himself_o and_o many_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n wrest_v not_o as_o peter_n write_v of_o the_o wicked_a to_o their_o eternal_a yet_o to_o their_o own_o and_o other_o tempor_n all_o destruction_n by_o civil_a war_n and_o combustion_n in_o the_o world_n defender_n this_o 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but_o will_v it_o thence_o follow_v that_o therefore_o minister_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o church_n or_o parent_n in_o the_o family_n chap._n 47._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 47._o discusser_n there_o be_v excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n in_o their_o time_n who_o have_v absolute_o deny_v the_o 13._o of_o the_o rom._n to_o concern_v any_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o table_n defender_n i_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o last_o use_n in_o that_o chapter_n put_v you_o on_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n which_o i_o hope_v the_o discusser_n himself_o will_v not_o deny_v much_o less_o say_v that_o any_o excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n do_v absolute_o deny_v that_o such_o a_o duty_n concern_v the_o first_o table_n but_o what_o be_v it_o that_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n say_v discusser_n calvin_n say_v this_o whole_a discourse_n concern_v civil_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o in_o vain_a do_v they_o who_o exereise_v power_n over_o conscience_n go_v about_o from_o this_o place_n to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n defender_n calvin_n judgement_n herein_o as_o general_o in_o other_o point_n be_v sound_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o text_n but_o not_o at_o all_o favour_v the_o discusser_n imagination_n this_o whole_a disputation_n say_v he_o be_v of_o civil_a government_n whereupon_o this_o inference_n be_v according_a to_o his_o own_o true_a meaning_n and_o scope_n therefore_o it_o do_v nor_o concern_n church-government_n therefore_o such_o church-governor_n as_o upon_o pretence_n of_o this_o text_n do_v make_v law_n without_o the_o word_n and_o beside_o the_o word_n to_o bind_v conscience_n and_o to_o usurp_v power_n over_o conscience_n they_o in_o vain_a go_v about_o to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n from_o this_o place_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n church-governor_n
a_o city_n or_o civil_a state_n and_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o uncivil_a and_o injurious_a person_n or_o action_n by_o civil_a punishment_n and_o therefore_o this_o sword_n can_v extend_v now_o as_o it_o do_v in_o israel_n of_o old_a to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n cause_n to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n defender_n i_o easy_o hold_v with_o the_o discusser_n that_o the_o civil_a sword_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n but_o if_o the_o civil_a sword_n ought_v to_o extend_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o civil_a man_n in_o civil_a liberty_n then_o why_o not_o also_o to_o the_o like_a defence_n of_o church_n and_o spiritual_a person_n in_o their_o spiritual_a liberty_n it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o govern_v his_o people_n in_o righteousness_n and_o if_o spiritual_a liberty_n be_v in_o righteousness_n due_a to_o spiritual_a person_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a liberty_n to_o civil_a person_n doubtless_o the_o magistrate_n be_v defective_a in_o rule_n of_o righteousness_n if_o he_o only_o attend_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o civil_a people_n in_o their_o civil_a right_n and_o neglect_v to_o defend_v his_o spiritual_a people_n in_o their_o spiritual_a right_n what_o though_o the_o sword_n be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o new_a it_o can_v therefore_o reach_v no_o further_o either_o then_o or_o now_o then_o unto_o the_o punishment_n of_o man_n in_o bodily_a life_n or_o civil_a liberty_n but_o it_o can_v reach_v to_o punish_v in_o these_o thing_n not_o only_o the_o offender_n in_o bodily_a life_n and_o civil_a liberty_n but_o also_o the_o offender_n against_o spiritual_a life_n and_o soul_n liberties_n what_o though_o it_o be_v call_v a_o civil_a sword_n in_o common_a speech_n it_o be_v not_o a_o scripture-phrase_n so_o to_o call_v it_o it_o may_v as_o fit_o be_v call_v the_o sword_n of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o the_o 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to_o the_o soul_n and_o conscience_n of_o man_n second_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v not_o use_v the_o arm_n of_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o truth_n for_o this_o be_v to_o be_v do_v with_o spiritual_a weapon_n whereby_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v exhort_v and_o compel_v but_o this_o say_v he_o hinder_v not_o that_o christian_n sin_v against_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o conscience_n may_v just_o be_v censure_v of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n and_o of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n also_o in_o case_n they_o shall_v corrupt_v other_o to_o the_o perdition_n of_o their_o soul_n this_o joint-confession_n of_o the_o answerer_n with_o luther_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o over_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o their_o subject_n not_o over_o their_o soul_n who_o see_v not_o that_o hereby_o be_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n that_o either_o the_o 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may_v expect_v a_o blessing_n when_o their_o soul_n prosper_v though_o god_n may_v keep_v his_o saint_n low_a in_o outward_a estate_n that_o grow_v fast_o in_o godliness_n yet_o sure_a godliness_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o this_o life_n and_o of_o a_o better_a 1_o tim._n 4.8_o and_o such_o as_o first_o seek_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n may_v expect_v all_o these_o outward_a thing_n to_o be_v cast_v in_o upon_o they_o if_o it_o seem_v a_o monstrous_a thing_n in_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o discusser_n to_o imagine_v that_o the_o good_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o well-ordering_a of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n therein_o shall_v concern_v the_o civil_a good_a of_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o may_v well_o seem_v monstrous_a to_o he_o to_o imagine_v that_o the_o flourish_a of_o religion_n be_v the_o flourish_a of_o the_o civil_a state_n and_o the_o decay_n of_o religion_n be_v the_o decay_n and_o ruin_n of_o the_o civil_a state_n but_o such_o virgin_n soul_n as_o follow_v the_o lamb_n wheresoever_o he_o go_v rev._n 14.4_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o go_v to_o live_v in_o such_o a_o commonwealth_n to_o who_o it_o shall_v seem_v monstrous_a that_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n shall_v belong_v to_o they_o and_o therefore_o the_o magistrate_n need_v not_o to_o fear_v that_o he_o shall_v exceed_v the_o bound_n of_o his_o office_n if_o he_o shall_v meddle_v with_o the_o spiritual_a affair_n of_o the_o church_n in_o god_n way_n it_o be_v true_a if_o he_o shall_v meddle_v with_o the_o execution_n of_o a_o minister_n office_n as_o vzziah_n do_v or_o if_o he_o shall_v set_v up_o humane_a invention_n in_o doctrine_n worship_n government_n in_o stead_n of_o christ_n institution_n as_o david_n bring_v the_o ark_n of_o god_n upon_o ox_n instead_o of_o the_o shoulder_n of_o the_o levite_n or_o if_o he_o shall_v thrust_v in_o jeroboam_n priest_n upon_o the_o church_n and_o cast_v out_o faithful_a minister_n or_o if_o he_o shall_v make_v law_n to_o bind_v conscience_n in_o all_o these_o or_o any_o such_o like_a he_o exceed_v the_o bound_n of_o his_o office_n but_o if_o he_o shall_v diligent_o seek_v after_o the_o lord_n and_o read_v in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n all_o the_o day_n of_o his_o life_n deut._n 17.19_o that_o he_o may_v both_o live_v as_o a_o christian_a and_o rule_v as_o a_o christian_a if_o he_o shall_v seek_v to_o establish_v and_o advance_v the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n more_o than_o his_o own_o if_o he_o shall_v encourage_v the_o good_a in_o a_o christian_a course_n and_o discourage_v such_o as_o have_v evil_a will_n to_o zion_n and_o punish_v none_o for_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o such_o as_o subvert_v the_o principle_n of_o save_a truth_n which_o no_o good_a christian_n much_o less_o good_a magistrate_n can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o or_o at_o least_o such_o as_o disturb_v the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o a_o turbulent_a way_n very_o the_o lord_n will_v build_v up_o and_o establish_v the_o house_n and_o kingdom_n of_o such_o prince_n as_o do_v thus_o build_v up_o he_o discusser_n again_o necessary_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o these_o two_o be_v contradictory_n to_o themselves_o which_o yet_o both_o of_o they_o be_v mr._n cotton_v position_n the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o to_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a and_o yet_o the_o magistrate_n must_v punish_v christian_n for_o sin_v against_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n and_o conscience_n and_o for_o corrupt_v the_o soul_n of_o man_n defender_n if_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n be_v a_o part_n and_o a_o great_a part_n a_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o good_a of_o christian_n than_o these_o two_o be_v so_o far_o from_o contradict_v one_o another_o that_o they_o establish_v one_o another_o for_o if_o a_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v to_o the_o preserve_n of_o the_o good_n of_o the_o subject_a and_o to_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o impeacher_n or_o purloyner_n thereof_o then_o he_o fall_v short_a of_o his_o duty_n if_o he_o suffer_v their_o faith_n and_o good_a conscience_n to_o be_v corrupt_v or_o despoil_v without_o revenge_n again_o this_o i_o say_v further_o which_o also_o will_v easy_o avoid_v appearance_n of_o contradiction_n suppose_v by_o good_n be_v mean_v only_o outward_a good_n and_o that_o the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_o than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o the_o subject_n yet_o though_o he_o have_v no_o power_n over_o faith_n and_o conscience_n he_o have_v nevertheless_o lawful_a power_n to_o punish_v such_o evil_a doer_n in_o their_o body_n and_o good_n as_o do_v seduce_v his_o people_n to_o make_v shipwreck_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n for_o in_o seek_v god_n kingdom_n and_o righteousness_n man_n prosper_v in_o their_o outward_a estate_n matth._n 6.33_o otherways_o they_o decay_n beside_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o this_o proposition_n be_v any_o of_o i_o which_o yet_o the_o discusser_n fasten_v upon_o i_o that_o the_o magistrate_n power_n extend_v no_o further_a than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o it_o right_o understand_v but_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o somewhat_o too_o loose_a and_o confuse_a for_o i_o to_o own_o it_o as_o my_o own_o for_o the_o magistrate_n power_n may_v be_v say_v to_o extend_v no_o further_o than_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n either_o as_o the_o subject_a of_o his_o power_n or_o as_o the_o end_n of_o his_o power_n if_o good_n be_v mean_v outward_a good_n and_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v say_v to_o extend_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o body_n and_o good_n of_o his_o subject_n as_o to_o the_o object_n of_o his_o power_n the_o position_n be_v true_a but_o if_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o end_n of_o his_o power_n as_o if_o a_o magistrate_n power_n reach_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o preservation_n of_o their_o body_n and_o outward_a good_n it_o be_v false_a for_o the_o adequate_a end_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d benè_fw-la administrare_fw-la rempublicam_fw-la well_o to_o govern_v the_o commonwealth_n now_o can_v it_o be_v well_o with_o a_o commonwealth_n that_o live_v in_o bodily_a health_n and_o worldly_a wealth_n but_o yet_o without_o church_n without_o christ_n without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n but_o though_o god_n for_o a_o time_n may_v preserve_v a_o civil_a state_n in_o health_n and_o wealth_n through_o his_o patience_n and_o bounty_n especial_o till_o mean_n of_o grace_n be_v offer_v to_o they_o yet_o after_o mean_n of_o grace_n be_v offer_v they_o can_v long_o expect_v bodily_a health_n or_o wealth_n to_o be_v continue_v to_o they_o if_o they_o neglect_v or_o despise_v or_o depart_v from_o so_o great_a salvation_n witness_v the_o roman_a empire_n which_o though_o it_o
abound_v in_o worldly_a blessing_n till_o the_o lord_n jesus_n come_v ride_v forth_o among_o they_o upon_o a_o white_a horse_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o his_o grace_n yet_o after_o they_o neglect_v so_o great_a salvation_n than_o follow_v a_o red_a horse_n of_o war_n and_o a_o black_a horse_n of_o famine_n and_o a_o pale_a horse_n of_o pestilence_n and_o other_o judgement_n which_o much_o impeach_v both_o the_o health_n and_o wealth_n of_o that_o state_n and_o will_v have_v ruin_v it_o have_v it_o not_o cast_v away_o her_o idol_n and_o advance_v the_o sceptre_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n now_o the_o god_n of_o all_o grace_n be_v please_v at_o length_n to_o shake_v the_o heart_n of_o this_o discusser_n that_o he_o may_v not_o thus_o delight_v to_o seduce_v himself_o and_o other_o against_o the_o light_n of_o grace_n and_o conscience_n against_o reason_n and_o experience_n discusser_n again_o in_o the_o answerers_n joint-confession_n with_o luther_n that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o use_v the_o secular_a power_n to_o compel_v man_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o profession_n of_o the_o truth_n he_o condemn_v as_o before_o i_o have_v observe_v 1._o his_o former_a implication_n that_o they_o may_v be_v compel_v when_o they_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n this_o implication_n where_o it_o be_v former_o observe_v it_o have_v be_v former_o clear_v from_o implication_n of_o contradiction_n i_o have_v never_o say_v that_o after_o man_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v be_v compel_v to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o by_o any_o penalty_n but_o only_o by_o withdraw_v such_o favour_n as_o be_v not_o comely_a or_o safe_a for_o faithless_a person_n discusser_n 2._o he_o condemn_v their_o own_o practice_n who_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n and_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o their_o jurisdiction_n unless_o he_o depart_v from_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o own_o religion_n and_o worship_n differ_v from_o that_o allow_v of_o in_o their_o civil_a estate_n yea_o and_o also_o actual_o submit_v to_o come_v to_o their_o church_n defender_n this_o charge_n of_o the_o discusser_n let_v he_o consider_v if_o it_o be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o his_o own_o relation_n chap._n 60._o where_o he_o say_v we_o permit_v and_o tolerate_v the_o indian_n in_o their_o paganish_a worship_n which_o we_o may_v restrain_v yet_o here_o he_o say_v we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o we_o suffer_v no_o man_n of_o any_o different_a conscience_n or_o worship_n to_o live_v in_o our_o jurisdiction_n for_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o presbyterian_o who_o do_v not_o only_o live_v among_o we_o but_o exercise_v their_o public_a ministry_n without_o disturbance_n there_o be_v anabaptist_n and_o antinomian_o tolerate_v to_o live_v not_o only_o in_o our_o jurisdiction_n but_o even_o in_o some_o of_o our_o church_n yea_o say_v the_o discusser_n but_o they_o must_v actual_o submit_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n i_o can_v say_v nor_o do_v i_o believe_v that_o any_o man_n be_v compel_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n against_o his_o conscience_n nay_o we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o that_o and_o that_o the_o discusser_n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o that_o our_o church_n do_v not_o expostulate_v with_o our_o member_n who_o hear_v in_o england_n no_o not_o then_o when_o there_o be_v more_o difference_n from_o we_o in_o manner_n of_o worship_n than_o through_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n now_o there_o be_v the_o which_o the_o discusser_v himself_o have_v declare_v to_o have_v be_v no_o little_a offence_n unto_o himself_o which_o make_v i_o the_o more_o to_o marvel_v that_o he_o shall_v now_o charge_v it_o upon_o we_o that_o we_o compel_v all_o to_o come_v to_o hear_v in_o our_o church_n against_o their_o conscience_n when_o he_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v offend_v that_o we_o suffer_v they_o to_o hear_v in_o any_o true_a church_n though_o pollute_v according_a to_o their_o conscience_n discusser_n howsoever_o they_o cover_v the_o matter_n with_o this_o varnish_n that_o none_o be_v compel_v further_o unto_o their_o church_n then_o unto_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n unto_o which_o all_o man_n be_v bind_v yet_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o teach_v and_o be_v teach_v in_o a_o church_n estate_n be_v a_o church-worship_n as_o true-and_a proper_a a_o church-worship_n as_o be_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n act_n 2.46_o i_o can_v call_v to_o mind_n that_o either_o upon_o that_o colour_n or_o any_o other_o any_o man_n in_o this_o country_n be_v ever_o compel_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o any_o of_o our_o church_n in_o this_o country_n but_o there_o be_v indeed_o some_o colour_n for_o the_o varnish_n he_o speak_v of_o but_o not_o that_o which_o he_o pretend_v our_o compulsion_n of_o any_o man_n for_o to_o hear_v but_o a_o controversy_n with_o himself_o upon_o another_o occasion_n as_o i_o remember_v the_o discusser_v sometime_o endeavour_v to_o draw_v away_o the_o church_n of_o salem_n whereof_o he_o be_v sometime_o teacher_n from_o hold_v communion_n with_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bay_n because_o we_o tolerate_v our_o member_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n in_o the_o parish_n of_o england_n we_o to_o satisfy_v he_o in_o that_o hold_v forth_o that_o which_o here_o he_o call_v a_o varnish_n that_o hear_v be_v a_o common_a duty_n lie_v upon_o all_o man_n where_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v true_o teach_v he_o reply_v as_o he_o do_v now_o that_o teach_v and_o hear_v in_o a_o church-estate_n be_v church_n worship_n act_v 2.46_o to_o which_o we_o give_v answer_v as_o now_o again_o that_o though_o teach_v and_o be_v teach_v in_o a_o church-estate_n be_v church-worship_n according_a to_o act_n 2.46_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o a_o church-worship_n but_o to_o such_o as_o be_v in_o a_o church-estate_n to_o all_o it_o be_v a_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n worship_n and_o a_o christian_a 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