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A85394 Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335 139,798 168

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case the Parliament will please to undertake and settle a thorow and effectuall course that neither the simplicity of the Jury nor of the Judge nor yet the simplicity nor duplicity of any or all the Ministers of the Provinciall or Nationall Assembly shall be any prejudice to the lives or liberties of studious learned and conscientious Ministers or others it may very well be presumed that the Ordinance will have very little to doe in point of execution and that the principall use and service of it will be to put the Parliament upon the trouble of contriving and setling such a course In their 24 Answer p. 25. they bring forth strange children Sect. 82. As first That the fourth Commandement doth in the words of it require onely one day in seven to be kept holy as a Sabbath and doth not expressely command the observation of the Jewish Sabbath c. If so then were the Sabbaths which the Jews observed of their own chusing and how then doth God so frequently call them His Verily my Sabbaths ye shall keep Exod. 31. 13. and Nehemiah in his prayer unto God expresseth himself thus And madest known unto them thy Holy Sabbath c. Neh. 9. 14. In which words he doth not onely appropriate the Jewish Sabbath unto God but likwise calls it his holy Sabbath i. a day which he hath sanctified Sect. 83. unto himself and his worship yea and expresly saith that God made it knowne unto them the Jewes i. revealed unto them on which day of the seven he would bee solemnly worshipped by them See also Levit. 19. 3. 30. Esa 56. 4. Ezek. 20 12 13. with other places many God is not wont to appropriate any thing unto himselfe which is of humane election in or any wayes appertaining unto his worship though sometimes he calls many of these things theirs to whom he hath given or appointed them And besides the reason of the Commandement for in six dayes the Lord made Heaven and Earth c. expresly characterizeth that very day as intended by God for a Sabbath unto them which they observed But the assertion is so empty and obnoxious that surely it will fall in the judgements of men without thrusting Secondly This Answer advanceth with this Divinity that within the generall scope of the Commandement which is the observing of those times and those onely as necessary to Religion which God himselfe appoints was included the Jewish Sabbath or Saturday before Christs Resurrection and the Christian Sabbath the Lords day is now since Christs Resurrection included also But First If the Jewish Sabbath was included in the Commandement or in the scope of the Commandement before Christs Resurrection how came it to be excluded after his Resurrection Hath the Resurrection of Christ any such influence upon the morall Law as to cause it to eject or cast out any thing formerly by way of duty contained or included in it Secondly If the scope of the Commandement be the observing of those times and of th●se onely c. which God himselfe appoints then how comes the observation of the Christian Sabbath or Lords day to be included therein considering that according to the Doct●ine of this Answer this day was no more appointed by God then any of the other six Or were all the six dayes besides as well included in it as this If so why are they not as well observed Thirdly If the Christian Sabbath or Lords day be now since Sect. 83. Christs resurrection included in the scope of the Commandement I would gladly know how or by what Authority or by whose act it hath beene brought within the verge of this scope so as to be included in it If Answer be made that it hath beene brought Sect. 83. in by the Authority or act of God then doth he not in this Commandement onely require one day in seven to be kept holy as a Sabbath but he requireth circumscriptively and particularly which of the seven he will have so kept If it be said that it hath beene brought in by the Church or by men then have men power to take it out againe and to put in any other of the six in the stead of it And how did the Resurrection of Christ contribute any thing towards the bringing of this day within● the scope of the Commandement if it depended upon the will and pleasure of men But into the secret of these mens Divinity in this place my soule as yet cannot finde the way to enter And Thirdly and lastly doe these men substantially prove that the morall Law contained in the ten Commandements is the rule of a Christians life onely by saying that the Christian Sabbath is now included in the generall scope of the fourth Commandement and that the Sacraments of the New Testament Baptisme and the Lords Supper are included within the scope of the second Commandement now First they prove not so much as the least haire of their heads amount unto of either of their assertions and yet neither of them lyeth so neare any known principle either of Reason or Religion that they need have feared the proverbiall reproof of lighting up a candle to see the Sunne in case they had bestowed a slender argument or two upon the clearing of them But secondly if what they affirme in both were granted yet their conclusion is not hereby gained For onely such a Law can properly be called a rule of life to Christians which either particularly or at least sufficiently prescribes and regulates all things necessary to be done by a Christian as a Christian Now the generall scope of the two Commandements specified and much more the Commandements themselves are so farre either from prescribing or regulating either of the duties respectively affirmed to be included in them that without particular direction for the performance both of the one and the other otherwise neither of them had ever beene practised by men notwithstanding the generall scope of the said Commandements yea and Commandements themselves I trust the Anti-Querists themselves do not make any such Law the Rule of their lives which neither teacheth nor directeth them what to doe To the twenty fifth Query desiring to know in what sense the Sect. 84. Sect. 84. Ordinance maketh it an Error to hold that a man by nature hath free will to turne unto God they returne this sleeve-lesse and froward Answer That there are scarce any words but a Caviller may pretend of them that they are to be understood divers wayes But good Gentlemen doth the Querist pretend this of the words in hand doth he not particularly assigne and plainely explicate two distinct senses wherein the said words may be taken humbly craving to know● which of the two was the sense intended by the Ordinance But I confesse that in High Presbytery where Authorativenesse hath her throne to desire a steady and distinct explication of things is constructively to cavill However it had been no such
all thy children shall be taught of the Lord and great shall be the peace of thy children b Isa 54. 13. Ioh. 6. 45. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour and every man his brother saying know the Lord. For they shall all know mee from the least of them unto the greatest of them c Jer. 31. 34. Sect. 10. And yet by the way I doe not conceive this to be the last estate or condition of the Saints wherein God will be ALL IN ALL. Reader I have drawne up this briefe Discourse in this place chiefly to give unto thee and to all the world a plaine and ingenuous account what my judgement and thoughts are about Civill Magistracie because I have been most unduly and untruly and in the very face of many demonstrations to the contrary both reall and nominall represented as an enemy to it and particularly by the Authors of that Vindication which not thorough any substance or weight in it selfe but by reason of the weaknesse of others giving a loud testimony of strength unto it occasioned the following Discourse I cleerly and freely acknowledge it to be an Ordinance of God yea an Ordinance of very gracious intentions unto men in him who is the Author and founder of it And though I conceive it to be a very tender Ordinance extremely obnoxious to take soyle and apt to lose the grace and beautie of it when it comes to be handled by men yet when it doth fall into cleane and tender hands it makes the Sunne ashamed and the Moone abashed at the brightnesse beautie and blessing of it Yea I conceive it to be an ordinance of that grand import and concernment unto the world during the present state of persons and things in it that it cannot lightly fall into hands so farre unsanctified or unworthy the administration and manage but that it will doe more then beare its own charges more then ballance the inconveniences which shall at any time attend the execution of it I looke upon it as the onely preventive appointed by God to keepe the world from falling foule upon it self and being destroyed by its own hands And as I judge those very impolitique Christians and as men rejecting the counsell of God for their spirituall good against themselves who by casting off Church-Ordinances by Pastors and Teachers seeme to catch at the spirituall priviledge of new Jerusalem before it be come downe from Heaven so doe I judge those very unchristian Politioians and as men rejecting the counsell of God likewise for their politique and civill good against themselves who thinke they should or might anticipate that other great priviledge of this Heavenly Citie which wee spake of freedome from Magistracie by a present ejecting of this Ordinance out of the world Alas though God as the Apostle informeth us hath provided better things for us who live under the Gospel then he did for his people under the Law yet if they who liv'd under the Law had cast off those Leviticall ordinances and observations appointed by God for their generation upon pretence of weaknesse and unprofitablenesse in them saying that they would not worship God at Jerusalem but onely in spirit and truth because this was more Evangelicall and perfect had they not attempted to put God himself to rebuke in his dispensations and withall consulted losse and disadvantage to themselves and their own soules in their spirituall if not in their temporall affaires also Those fruits which being gathered and eaten in the spring of the yeare whilst they are yet greene and sowre are apt to cause diseases and to prove destructive unto health if not unto life it selfe if let grow upon their trees untill Autumne or the due season of their ripening may now be gathered and eaten not onely without danger but with delight also advancement of health In like manner though the dayes be acoming when deliverance from that both Ministerie and Magistracie which now support and accommodate the Christian world though with a mixture of many disaccommodations in both will be as a resurrection from death unto life unto the Saints yet to attempt a deliverance from either untill the Lord God Allmightie and the Lamb shall vouchsafe to interesse themselves in such dispensations which shall eminently be both the one and the other as wee heard must needs be as a covering of the Sunne with sackcloath and a turning of the Moone into bloud I meane of a dark and dismall consequence unto the world For mine own part if I have or hereafter shall at any time Sect. 11. suffer any unjust or hard measure from either I may possibly plead the righteousnesse of the cause for which I suffer yea out of the case of suffering from either I may declare the mind of God as well touching the respective bounds limits interests and duties of either at least negatively as concerning the qualifications requisite in the persons to whom the dispensation either of the one or of the other ought to be committed thus farre I presume I keep within the compasse and bounds of my Profession but as I have never so I shall never God assisting disparage either the one Ordinance or the other in the least nor yet seek or counsell the devestiture of any person lawfully called to the administration of either except it be in submission and subserviencie unto that Magistracie which hath a lawfull power to devest upon just and lawfull grounds yea and to command my assistance in such a case as I make no question but that the Parliament of England hath within the circumference of this Kingdome Neither is there I am confident the least jot or tittle to be found in any of my writings which hath the least affinitie with either of these positions or assertions 1. that there ought to be no more no other kinde of Authoritie in the Civill State then in the Ecclesiastique 2. that the people have a lawfull power to devest or depose Magistrates lawfully called when or as they please Both these positions have been charged upon me as enmity against Caesar was upon Christ But as Christ though charged as an enemy unto Caesar was notwithstanding Caesars best friend and the greatest assertor of his Empire and power so however an undue representation hath been made of me as if I were of opposite affections to our present Magistracie and Parliament yet without the least touch of vanitie or disparagement unto any mans either affections or service to the Parliament be it spoken I have been and yet am as reall in affection as faithfull that I say not even fruitfull also in my service to the Parliament as any man whatsoever It hath been the hereditarie portion of the best and faithfullest Sect. 12. servants of God for many descents and generations from the hand of their enemies and those that sought their ruine to have all their sayings and doings any waies capable of the forme perverted into matter