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A79481 Good counsell, to the petitioners for Presbyterian government, that they may declare their faith before they build their church. Chidley, Katherine. 1645 (1645) Wing C3831; Thomason 669.f.10[39]; ESTC R210414 3,972 1

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it might please the Parliament to examine the gifts of such whom these call illiterate that so it may appear how reasonable we are either by disputation between the Presbyters and them or by proving them to give the sence of any Scripture which they shall appoint and by this it shall appear whether these Presbyterians are true men for there is never a Minister of the Seperation that feareth to set his foot against any Presbyter whatsoever he be to dispute the case concerning the matter ministery worship or government of the Church or any principle of Faith which it shall please the Parliament to call upon them for the managing of that so it may appear unto all men who are best informed in the mind and will of God and by this it will also appear who are the Orthodoxall Preachers and who are the Preachers of new Gospels and consequently who be the setters of division and who they be upon whom their scandalous conclusions fall And as for Tolerations of all Religions I cannot conceive to be proper for there is but one true Religion and that is it which hath Gods Word for their rule And for breaking Sabbaths we know the Christian Sabbath now under the Gospel is the first day of the week commonly called Sonday or the Lords day which we judge our selves bound in conscience to set apart for the worship and service of God by the Rules of Scripture both Law and Gospel and are also free to submit to the Magistrates command to humble our selves before God in case of eminent danger and to give him publick thanks for all eminent deliverances the Magistrates command being grounded upon the Word of God Therfore the Presbyterians slandring the people of God will make their reformation the more difficult for no man ever set himself up honestly by accusing of others falsly And as touching our Brethren the Scots we honour them for their parts and shall remain thankfull unto God for them or for any help we have received from them yet we can never submit our consciences to be captivated or made subject to mens wils for God onely hath power in that case Yet I speak freely for my part I shall not be offended at whatever lawfull Government the Parliament in their wisdom shall set up in the Nation for the preaching of the Gospel to bring those thousands and millions of people who yet lie in ignorance to the knowledge of God and obedience of the faith that so they may become fit matter even living stones to be built to God a spirituall house for there can be no true reformation in a State of generall Apostasie but by seperating the precious from the vile and not to impose the worship of God on a people that are not capable for that will bring a curse rather then a blessing Therefore the truly godly ought to arise and be doing and God hath promised to be with them and they are not to neglect to worship God for want of the command of Authority as is the manner of many Moreover these take notice that God hath rewarded the beginnings of the Parliaments Reformation And truly all Christians ought to observe the same for God useth to reward all those that do his will And I hope God will still be mercifull to them if Justice be executed by them And it is to be desired that the wicked may be brought to condigne punishment and the innocent set free who have lain in prison a long time for worshipping the true God after the true manner as Mr. Turner hath who is therefore in prison at Westminster and others who also suffer in the like case such out-breakings of envy I am sure procure no mercy but judgement Now that the Parliament may hasten to set up Christs true discipline which he hath left to his Church that is and ought to be the desire of all Christians But that the modell specified in the Petition is it stands the Presbyterians upon to prove And therefore in my judgement it were better for them to make their confession of faith and catechise first according to the rule of Gods Word and then shape their Church according to that rather then shape their Church according to the modell and their faith according to their Church Prepare thy work without and make it fit for thy self in the field and afterwards build thine house Prov. 24. 27. K. C.