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A43754 A brief relation of the irreligion of the northern Quakers wherein their horrid principles and practices, doctrines and manners ... are plainly exposed to the view of every intelligent reader : together with a (brief reply) to some part of a very scurilous and lying pamphlet called. Higginson, Francis, 1617-1670.; Fox, George, 1624-1691. Sauls errand to Damascus. 1653 (1653) Wing H1953; ESTC R34465 75,893 103

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answered a Voice came to them commanding them to come to him He asked them again where this Voice came to them they replyed T F his Garden in Lancashire he demanded again what that Voice commanded them to say to him they answered it was not yet given in to them The Gentleman then told them if they knew not what they had to say to him he knew not what he had further to say to them That night being towards Evening they were entertained in that Gentlemans house and being desired by the Servants to Supper they refused to eat but called for a little water onely The next Morning also they refused to eat any thing but offered to one of the Servants money for their Lodging he told them they did not well to come thither to abuse his Master he kept no Inne In the return towards their old Randezvous a few miles from this Gentlemans house they called at a little Alehouse that stands alone where desiring the Hostesse to provide for their Breakfast they eat and drank heartily The poor woman a little after told one of the aforesaid Gentlemans Servants that had occasion that way that two or three notable Trencher-men had been at her house who enquiring what manner of men they were knew them to be the same men that had been at his Masters 30. They deny all Ordinances and their practise is sutable to this their wicked Tenet An honest Minister in Westmerland discoursing with Fox asked him whether he did believe Prayer Preaching the Sacraments Meditation Holy-conference to be Ordinances of God No saith he away with them I deny them all 31. They call the Worship of God used in our publick Assemblies a beastly worm-eaten form a Heathenish way and Worship fleshly carnall c. 32. They hold that the sprinkling of Infants is Antichristian and their Baptisme the mark of the Beast spoken of in the Revelation which those that worship the Beast recieve in their foreheads 33. They affirm that there is not one word in Scripture that speaks of a Sacrament and that they are unlawfull that a little bread and a little wine in a Sacrament is the Worlds Communion and that in the true Church of God there is no talk of such carnall things A Minister in Westmerland having some conference with Fox and knowing him to be against the Baptisme of Infants asked him if he did not own the Baptisme of water to be an Ordinance No saith he I deny it there is no such Ordinance 34. They hold it unlawfull to sing the Psalmes of David and call them the Worlds Psalmes carnall Psalmes and say we sing Davids quakings and tremblings and that we put Davids Conditions into Rhime and Metre and sing them to the dishonour of God 35. They deny the Lords day to be the Christian Sabbath and say the Sabbath is a Mystery which we understand not 36. They hold it unlawfull to worship God in our Churches commonly and metonymically so called and tearm them Idols Temples beasts houses where God is not worshiped but the worship of the Beast is upheld and that the Beasts of the field meet there Night-birds Screech Owles 37. For the Office of the Magistracy though they do not yet openly declaim against it fearing they should be quickly called to account for such an attempt yet their Opinions which some of their lavish Tongues have manifested touching it as also this rude irreverent sawcy deportment towards Magistrates wherein they shew not so much as any common respect to them their bold impious Predictions of the ruine of all in Authority whatsoever and railings against them do easily evidence them to be none of the best friends to it The ensuing words are the words of a godly learned Minister to a friend of his However saith he the advice of some of late hath made them wiser There was no Doctrine more ordinary at their first entring into these parts at which time they spoke their hearts more freely and plainly then they have done since sense of danger and some little opposition having made them more politick then that we owe no Obedience to any Magistrate and that we ought not to own them with any honour or subjection Mr. Cole severall times endeavoured the Conviction of some of them from that abundant Testimony the Gospell gives to that distinction of Magistrates and Subjects Superiours and Inferiours but in vain And in his discourse with Nailer at Kendall when Nailer told him he accused him in this point falsely Providence so ordered it that one of his followers was there present who having before maintained the said Doctrine to him confessed then he had recieved it from Iames Nailer One Leonard Till of their way in Lancashire affirmed that one man ought not to have power over another Another principall man of the Sect in our County affirmed to a Justice of Peace there would be Quakers in Westmerland when there should be never a Justice of Peace in it for which words he was Indicted at the Sessions Ian. last How those of this Sect at York now Prisoners there railed against the Judges ealling them Scarlet coloured Beasts c. while sitting on the Bench is not unknown Such Justices of the Peace that appeare against their way they call Justices so called 38. They hold that all things ought to be common and teach the Doctrine of Levelling privately to their Disciples Those that know the Leaders of this Sect best judge them to be down right Levellers and that feare of suppression keeps them for the present from teaching that Doctrine openly Severall of them have affirmed that there ought to be no distinction of Estates but an universall parity one above the rest denyed the property of Estates a third affirmed that whersoever Christ came he came to destroyal property 39. They hold to quote Fathers and Authors in preaching is Antichristian 40. They are of Opinion that it is unlawfull to call any man Master or Sir 41. They hold it unwarrantable to salute any man by the way 42. They account it unlawfull to use the Civility of our Language in speaking to a single Person in the Plurall number I do not lay all the Tenets above recited to the charge of every one of them nor do I believe that all of them hold them all some of them are defended by some certain men of them onely Others of them are maintained by them all in generall Of the wicked Practises of the QUAKERS and first of their Meetings and Speakings HItherto of their Errours that are come to our knowledge I shall now go on to present my Reader with a briefe view of their black wicked Practises the naturall Fruits of such corrupt Principles as are above mentioned In doing of which I shall principally take notice of their Meetings Speakings Quakings Fastings Revellings Censoriousnesse ●●ings Inconstancy in their own Opinions enmity to Learning Idlenesse Incivilities bloody barbarous and turbulent Practises for their wayes have
good I do not wish my greatest enemy so much hurt as that he should be one of them But those in Authoritie know they might not give ear to the Calumnies of every Anonymus Psal. 101. 5 7. Who so privily slandereth his neighbour saith David him will I cut off He that worketh deceit shall not dwell in my House He that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight And that it was Sauls sin and shame to hearken to the calumnies of Doeg against those that ministred at the Altar to the Lord. And we all know it is no new thing for the Ministers of Christ to be the object of the worlds indignation and accused of all manner of evil Our Saviour Christ himself his Apostles and the best of the Christians in the Primitive times did not escape the scourge of the Tongue the worst of slanders Well therefore may the false aspersions of this man be born as an easie burthen But thou O Lord deliver my soul from lying lips and from a deceitfull Tongue Psal. 120. 2. Let thy mercies also come unto me O Lord even thy salvation according to thy Word So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me for my trust is in thy Word Psal. 119. 41. 42. The next part of this Pamphlet which I shall give some answer to consists of a false and scandalous Relation wherein Nayler or some friend of his for him foolishly complains of Persecution and maliciously abuses and belies divers Ministers in Westmerland as his persecutors who I am confident never used any unchristian language to him and were never guiltie of the least incivilitie in Action towards him notwithstanding his outcry of persecution by them Now because I intend to say something by way of reply to this Relation as also to their fals Narrative of the proceedings of the Justices at Appleby against Iames Nayler Jan. 8. 1652. I think it will not be amisse first to expose the Quakers own Relations verbatim to the view of my Reader as they are contained in Sauls errand to Damascus Divers particulars of the Persecutions of Iames Nayler by the Priests of Westmerland JAmes being at a meeting at Edward Briggs house on the first day where many people met he was desired by divers friends to meet the day following at Widow Cocks house about a mile from Kendal whereof the Priests having notice raised the Town of Kendal against him but being long in gathering together the meeting was done but Spies being out upon the Steeple top and other places notice was given what way Iames passed from thence and coming down towards Kindal two Priests being accompanied with a Justice of Peace and some other Magistrates of the Town with an exceeding great multitude of people following them met him saying Nayler I have a Message from the Lord Iesus Christ to thee but that there is not a convenient place To which James answered The Lord Iesus Christ is no respecter of places The message that he had to declare was this I conjure thee that thou tell me by what power thou inflictest such punishment upon the bodies of creatures James answered Dost thou remember who it was that did adjure Christ to tell if he were the Son of God and asked by what authoritie he did those things for James saw him to be one of that Generation But the Priest still conjuring him to tell by what power he did it James answered Dost thou acknowledge it to be done by a power Yea saith he I have the Spirit of God and thereby I know it is done by a power James said If thou have the Spirit of God as thou sayest thou hast then thou canst tell by what power it is done The Priest said When God comes he comes to torment the souls and not the bodies James said He comes to redeem the souls But after much jangling the Priest began to accuse him before the Justice and Magistrates of many things As that he taught people to burn their Bibles Children to disobey their Parents Wives their Husbands People to disobey the Magistrates such like accusations To which James answered Thou art a false accuser prove one of these things if thou canst here before the Magistrates But not being able to prove any one he began to accuse Iames for holding out a light that doth convince of sin which saith the Priest all have not To which Iames said Put out one in all this great multitude that dare say he hath it not Saith the Priest These are all Christians but if a Turk or Indian were here he would deny it James said Thou goest far for a proof but if a Turk were here he would witnesse against thee The people beginning to fight the Priest turned away saying Here will be a disturbance Said James These are thy Christians and this is the fruiuts of thy Ministery But the Justice with some others did endeavour to keep the rude people off him so that they could not come to their purpose there But he being to passe over the bridge and through the town they that were of the Priests party ran before swearing they would throw him off the bridge into the water but coming thither and seeing their purpose he was encouraged in his God who gave him assurance of protection and did wonderfully keep him and those that were with him for when he came unto the bridge the word of the Lord came unto him and he was made to cry out against their rage and the power of the Lord was with him so that he received no harm though he was made to speak all along and in the Market-place and till he came out of the town But the raging Priests continued shouting crying and throwing stones at him a quarter of a mile out of the town But such was the power of the Lord that neither he nor any with him received any harm The work was wonderfull and we were brought much to admire it and praise the Lord who is blessed for ever and ever Another time Iames being desired of many Christian Friends to be at a meeting at Ortor there to wait upon the Lord for what he would make known to his people did accordingly and many friends and brethren accompanied him but the Priests having intelligence some dayes before five of them were gathered together and many people from all quarters A friend in the town desired Iames to come to his house and being come into his house a message was sent from the Priests desiring him to come into the field under pretence of a more convenient place for the great multitude To which Iames answered It is my desire that all may be edified and coming into the field the Priests came with a great multitude and asked him by what authority he came thither and had gathered so many people together to break the peace and tempting him said Wilt thou be bound that none here shall break the Peace To which Iames answered We come