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Several informations and examinations taken concerning Lieutenant Colonell John Lilburn shewing his apostacy to the party of Charles Stewart, and what his intentions are in coming over into England out of Flanders.
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Berkenhead, Isaac.
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1653
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Wing B1977; ESTC R235834
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SEVERALL INFORMATIONS AND EXAMINATIONS Taken concerning Lieutenant Colonell Iohn Lilburn SHEWING HIS APOSTACY to the Party of Charles Stuart â—â—d what his Intentions are in coming over into ENGLAND out of FLANDERS LONDON Printed by H. Hills and for G. Calvert and T. Br 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and are to be sold at the Black-spread Eagle and the three Bibles at and near the West-end of Pauls 165â— A Perfect Narrative of what passages I observed from Lieut. Col. Joh. Lilburn and others touching him in Flanders About the beginning of Iuly 1652. I was imployed on the behalf of this Common-wealth into Holland and Flanders and landing at Octend I found a number of very desperate enemies of all sorts to this Commonwealth with whom I observed Lieut C. Lilburn much to associate and having observed before his restlesness of spirit and that his late actïons had rendred him so obnoxious to this Common-wealth that incurred an Act of Banishment upon himself I therefore applyed my self to find out what his endeavours at present drove at And to this purpose it was not long before I found that Lieut. Col. Lilburn had been very conversant with Cap. Ioh. Bartlet and to whom he had imparted severall secrets as he himself called them the said Cap. Iohn Bartlet who told me that there were many delinquents and Cavaliers of dangerous consequence that escaped out of England to that Town of Ostend whom L. C. Lilburn no sooner heard of but came to them and in as gross a manner as he could did endeavour to lessen the Justice Honor and power of this Commonwealth and this in so vile and scurilous language as produc'd rather a wonder than an affection in its chiefest adversaries as was several times confessed to me by several of them with whom he convers'd Cap. Bartlet as well as several others further told me that L. C. Iohn Lilburn kept great correspondencies with several people in England and that one Sanctly Mr. Prinns man he conceived did send away his letters for which purpose the Lie Col. every Saturday came from Bruges to Ostend and having wrote them on the Monday following he returned as I my self often observed him to do Not long after I heard Col. Charls Lloid sometimes called Sir Charls Lloid Engineer General and Quartermaster General to the late King Cap. Luke Whitington Agent to Charls Stuart Cap. Iohn Tytus Cap. Ioh. Bartlet say that L. C. Iohn Lilburn had proposed several times sometimes to the Duke of Buckingham sometimes to Sir Ralph Hopton sometimes call'd the Lord Hopton and sometimes to Col. Charls Lloid aforesaid and several others That if any of the forenamed persons would procure him 10000l he would destroy the Lord General Cromwel the Parliament and the Council of State that now sitteth at Westminster and settle Charls Stuart King of England as he called him in his Throne in England or he would have a piece of him nayl'd upon every post in Bruges In answer to which Sir Charls Lloid as aforesaid told me that if he thought the L. Col. could perform what he proposed to them it would be hard but they would procure so much money upon so good a score I observed further from L. C. Iohn Lilburn and others who told me of his actions that the L. Col. did not only move with much violence and earnestness shewing which way he would bring this his proposed design about but went from person to person whose reputation he thought could procure so much as he proposed for for the advancement of this his declared design and whose affections and opinions were most suitable to further him in such imployments Not long after this L. C. Lilburn took up a presumtion that I was imployed by the Commonwealth of England which he averred he was certified of by several of his friends and named one Col. Layton as one of his friends who now stands exil'd from this Commonwealth and was Secretary to the Council of Warr to Charls Stuart in Scotland The L. C. hereupon went to the Duke of Buckingham Sir Ralph Hopton as aforesaid Col. Charls Lloid as aforesaid Major General Diol a Scotchman that came and invaded England with Charls Stuart and had lately broke out of the Tower Dr. Nicholas Judge of the Admiralty court in Dunkirk for Charls Stuart Cap. Luke Whitington Agent for Charls Stuart Cap. Iohn Tytus brother to Cap. Tytus the professed Enemie of this Commonwealth Cap. Iohn Bartlet and what other Cavaliers 〈…〉 uld meet with and told them that I was a Spy for the P 〈…〉 of England and warned them to beware of me For he had already spoiled two of the Parliament Spyes and would in a short time ruin me also And to this purpose as Cap. Tytus and several others afterwards told me the Li. Col. went to Placingdol and the said Col. Layton where they way-laid me an hour and a half to have ruined me as L. C. Lil. often said he would though it pleased God in his Mercy not to let me come that day from Ostend when I knew nothing of the design against me Not long after this X conversed with some of the L. C. his Associats and told them I wondred much why L. C. Lilburn should offer thus to abuse his own Country-man in another Nation in so high a Nature as he had done me since I never did him hurt and repeating what I had heard from others that L. C. Lilburn should say of me It was soon told the L. Col. again who presently presumed that it was Cap. Bartlet that had told me and from that time forward he sought with more violence than before to have me murdered as too plainly appeared by his after-actions and by two witnesses that I examined by order who gave it under their hands and offered to depose it That one of the L. C. his Conspirators against me often told them that the L. C. and this other Conspirator had hired a man to have stabb'd me because I was employed an Intelligencer for the Parliament of England and had not I escaped speedily away their business had been effected upon me But I understanding the L. C. his practises against me resolved on my voyage for England which being understood by the Lieut. Col. some more men besides himself with weapons way-laid me and Cap. Bartlet as we were to take boat for Ostend that so he might have executed what he had formerly spoke against me which was for this purpose as some afterwards confessed to me who had it from his own mouth that his carriages in Flanders should not be declared to the Parliament of England for said he as they have banished my person so they will sequester my estate But it pleased Almighty God this second time by his providence to protect me in giving me a resolution not to go till the morrow which the L. C. perceiving supposed himself to be discovered and returned into the Town And suddenly therupon came on Cap. Bret an Irish Rebell to inquire
for Cap. Bartlet with the said Cap. Whitington who were both privy to the design and discovered it after God in his mercy had prevented them By this time it was noysed up and down the City insomuch that some of the Citizens offered me their assistance which some of them afterwards gave me and brought me to the boat the next day at which time the Lieut. C. with some more of his Conspirators lay behind a hedge near the way that I was to passe and thus blessed be God I escaped his hands A little before the Lieut. C. had discovered that Captain Bartlet informed me of whatsoever the Lieut. C. told him Capt. Bartlet said that he had told him that he the Lieut. C. had much intercourse and correspondency with Holland by which means he would ruin me in causing me to be apprehended because as he said I was a Spy for the Commonwealth of England which Capt. Bartlet giving me timely notice of hindred my journey and so a third time I escaped his malice which was not against me any further than as he said I was a Spy for the Common-wealth of England ISAAC BERKENHEAD The Examination of Capt. John Tytus concerning Lieut. Col. John Lilburn Sept. 22. 1652. THis Examinant saith that the said Lieut. C. John Lilburn proposed to the Lord Hopton that if he would procure him ten thousand pounds he would destroy the Common-wealth of England in six moneths or he would have a piece of him naild upon every Post in Bruges The Lord Hopton told the said Lilburn that it could not be so facile a thing though he believed it would be done but not in so short time to which the said Lilburn replyed My Lord I le shew you how it shall be done give me but the monies that I propose for and I le have my Agents for I have enough of them that shall give me a continual account of all the Commonwealth of Englands Proceedings And by those Agents I will spread My Papers abroad that shall instigate the people against the Parliament and so by that Power I have already and that Power that My Agents shall make by working upon the people I will destroy this Parliament the Councill of State and the Lord General Cromwell in half an hour This Examinant further saith that George Villers Duke of Buckingham sent for the said Lilburn to inquire which way he might make his addresses to the Parliament for his Peace But the said Lilburn advised the Duke from it for that the Lord General Cromwell and the Parliament were so false a Company of Rogues that it was not safe for the said Duke to put his life into their hands And further said that if the King to wit Charles Stuart would but observe what he the said Lilburn had set down in some Papers which shew the reason why the said Lilburn would not be a Cavalier and reform but them he might easily do his businesse and sit in his chair But the said Duke spurr'd him the said Lilburn on to his first request of advising him which way he might make his peace with the Parliament But the said Lilburn would not hear of that but advised the said Duke to the contrary and further telling him the said Duke that they had hitherto naming his Excellency the Lord General Cromwell and the Parliament broken all their Ingagements and particularly the Lord General to me who promised with all the Protestations in the world and by what ever else was sacred that so soon as the General had done his business in Scotland he would then answer all their expectations and desires meaning the desires of that party which are called Levellers and further promised that Magna Charta should be set on foot and all the privileges of the people fully answered according as they the said Levellers had in several papers of theirs proposed But the said Duke still drove the said Lilburn off desiring him the said Lilburn that if he had any interest or party in England as he the said Lilburn boasted much of that he would use it on the Dukes behalf for said the said Duke could I procure a pass to day to come into my native Country I would fling my self into the Lord General and Parliaments hands to morrow For said he the said Duke so far as I have assisted the King hitherto hath been but to quit my self of ingratitude since my Family hath been raised by the King and his Ancestors To which the said Lilburn replyed My Lord since you are so resolved I would advice you not to stir in such things as yet for that there is expected a New Representative at which time he the said Lilburn doubted not but he should be able to do him the said Duke service for he the said Lil. should then be as powerful as any in the Representative But the said Duke desired that if he the said Lilburn had any Interest that he would use it forthwith for that he had a desire to be reconciled to his Country To which the said Lilburn replyed My Lord the General and the Parliament are so false a company of Rogues that it cannot be safe for you to put your self in their hands This Examinant further saith that at this same time the said Lil. proposed to the said Duke that if he the said Duke could but procure him 10000l he the said Lilburn would have a piece of him nailed upon every post in Bruges if he the said Lilburn did not overthrow and destroy those damnable Villains in England I mean said he the said Lilburn the Lord General Cromwell the Parliament and that Monstrous Councill of State To which the said Duke replyed I pray you Sir let me hear which way you will do this The said Lilburn replyed My Lord I le tell you how First I le set my Presse on work for which purpose I have bought one with a Letter at Amsterdam which cost me thirty pounds and then I le send my papers over into England which by my Agents shall be spread all over the Nation and by my Agents for I have enough my papers shall be brought into the Army there where I have double Interest and now every Trooper begins to understand his own privilege and so soon as these papers are spread they l fly in the faces of their Officers so that with the help of my particular interest the Souldiery shall do all themselves and I le do nothing but sit in my chair and use my pen To which the Duke replyed Sir you may observe that in all your attempts the General out-witted you and broke your business in the bud besides you may see that on all occasions the Souldiery hath been obedient unto his Officer so discreetly hath the Generall ordered his Army Why then saith the said Lilburn I perceive you take the General for a wise man Yes said the Duke let the world read his Stories and they l find him so No said the