Dangerfield L.C.J. For what Mr. G. How to get him out of Prison L.C.J. Pray how came she to say she would go to another Astrologer You were not shy to give her an answer to these Questions Mr. G. It was something about Mr. Dangerfield My Lord she asked me something about some Deeds or Papers which he was to search for or seize which concerned Mr. Bedlow L.C.J. She had better have gone to one of the Clerks than to a Conjurer for them But why would she go to another Astrologer Mr. G. Because I was shy L.C.J. You were not shy in these things about Bedlow Did she not say when you refused to meddle vvith the death of the King that she vvould go to another Astrologer Mr. G. Yes my Lord. L.C.J. Dd you any thing for her at that time Mr. G. My Lord I did calculate a Scheme vvhich since I found to be for Mr. Dangerfield but I knevv nor fot whom it vvas vvhen I did it L.C.J. How Can you apply one Scheme to any Body Mr. G. My Lord when Mrs. Cellier came to me she gave me the time of a Persons Nativity and I set the Figure of the Heavens to that Sign to know whether he were a Person fit to be trusted her Husband being a French Merchant to get in Money L.C.J. For ought you know Dangerfield was a Woman and the question was whether Dangerfield was with Child and he happens to be a Man How did it fall out Mr. G. I have forgotten my Lord. L.C.J. When did you know it was for Dangerfield Mr. G. My Lord never before I came before the King and Councel neither did I know his Name before for he went by the Name of Willoughby before L.C.J. What other Discourse had you with her Did she not at any time talk of Mr. Dugdale Mr. G. She did say she had heard of some People that were to discourse with Mr. Dugdale she had heard such a thing but I don't know whether she knew any thing of it or no. L.C.J. What discourse had you about that Mr. G. She told me there was a Woman to go down to Windsor to beg Mr. Dugdale's Pardon for he was penitent for what he had said in some Tryal or other L.C.J. Call another Witness Attor Gen. Mr. Dangerfield pray give the Court an account of what you know of Mrs. Cellier the Prisoner at the Bar. Mrs. Cel. My Lord I accept against that Witness L.C.J. Why so You must show some reason and then we will do you Justice in God's Name Mrs. C. If I can prove he was whipt and transported pilloryed perjured c. he is no Witness The last time I was upon my Tryal he threatned some of my VVitnesses that if they would not Swear as he would have them he would kill them L.C.J. If you can shew any Record whereby he is convicted of any thing that can by Law take away bis Testimony do it Mrs. C. He has been Indicted for Burglary L.C.J. to Mr. Dangerfield VVas you Indicted for Burglary Mr. Danger I will take it at their Proof Ralph Briscoe a VVitness for the Defendent Sworn L.C.J. Do you know Dangerfield Briscoe I remember one Thomas Dangerfield I saw him burnt in the Hand at the Old-Baily L.C.J. Is this the same Man Bris I do believe it is the same Man but I have not seen him these several Years L.C.J. Let every Body have their right in God's Name Have you any more Mrs. C. My Lord I can prove him perjured L.C.J. Have you any Records to shew he was perjured is he convinced Mrs. C. No. L.C.J. Then you can't do it Mrs. C. My Lord I can prove him guilty of Forgery L.C.J. If you don't produce the Record you do nothing R. That which she calls Forgery is not that which the Law calls Forgery it is counterfeiting Guineys L.C.J. Can you shew he forged any Deeds If you can prove that he hath committed Forgery and be not convicted it is no Errour L.C.J. Have you your Pardon She hath proved the Conviction of Felony prove your Pardon Mrs. C. I have the Copies of several Records here in Court which will be sworn to To which Mr. Dangerfield pleaded his Majesties most gracious Pardon To which Mrs. Cellier replyed that she had a Copy of the said Pardon in Court but it did not extend to some of the Crimes for which he stood convicted and then produced a Record wherein it did appear he was outlawed upon a Fellony Upon which the Court commanded Mr. Dangerfield to go and fetch his Pardon in the interim examining several of the Kings VVitnesses Thomas Williamson Sworn L.C.J. Did you ever see Dangerfield and Mrs. Cellier in company Williamson No my Lord but I have been imployed for Mrs. Cellier in several Businesses of Charity to get Prisoners out VVhen Mr. Dangerfiield was in Newgate she imployed me to get him out L.C.J. VVhy was she so kind to Dangerfield W. My Lord I don't know that but she bid me get him out whosoever staid behind J.R. VVhy should she get him out Did she tell you what she would do with him when she had him out W. No my Lord. R. VVe bring him for a VVitness that she had a great kindness for Dangerfield Margaret Jenkens Sworn L.C.J. VVhat discourse have you heard between Dangerfield and Cellier J. I never saw them together but twice It is a Year since I came from them L.C.J. When you saw them at Dinner or Supper together what other Company was there J. Her Husband was with her one time L.C.J. What did they talk about J. They were talking about the Prisoners that were Condemned L.C.J. Where was it at her House J. No at my Lady Powis's House L.C.J. How came you there J. I carried Notes backwards and forwards L.C.J. Did you never hear no discourse about the Plot J. No. Susan Edwards Sworn R. What Intimacy have you known between Dangerfield and Mrs. Celliers L.C.J. Did you ever see them together Edwards Yes very often my Lord. She said that the Popish Plot would turn to a Presbyterian Plot. L.C.J. Who did she say that to to Dangerfield E. No my Lord but I have heard him say those words and that he would make it his Interest it should be so L.C.J. What did you say to him when he said he must turn Rogue and discover all their Plots E. I said he would be no greater Rogue than he was before L.C.J. You were pritty nimble with him E. He thought he should be hanged L.C.J. For what E. If he did not turn Rogue he thought he should be hanged E. to Mrs. Cellier You were very often together in your Chamber Mrs. C. Who gave you your Cloaths E. Her Husband was gone to Church one Morning and he was with her in her Chamber L.C.J. I can't see why you should prove this matter too far R. Susan is a civil young Woman E. She said she would do my business for me and I go in danger of
It was only common Discourse as it was at Coffee-Houses R. Had you heard of it before she spake of it that you say it was common Mr. G. No not till she spake of it L.C.J. Did Mrs. Cellier tell you of any Popish Priests or Jesuits coming hither from beyond the Seas Mr. G. Upon the going over of one Clay I think she did say she heard there were some more coming over L.C.J. What to do Mr. G. God knows what L.C.J. Did she speak of any Plot or Contrivance to kill the King Mr. G. No she was always an Enemy to Plots or else I would not have kept her Company L.C.J. Did she say there were or that she heard there were several Priests and Jesuits coming over Mr. G. My Lord I think she said she heard it And I have said several times to her the Popish Plotters would be destroyed but she answered she was afraid the Nation would be destroyed first L.C.J. Did she say she was afraid of it or that the Nation would be destroyed first I ask you once more we must try People according to their Oaths By the Oath you have taken when you said you thought the Popish Plotters would be destroyed what Answer did she make Mr. G. She said she was afraid the Nation would be so because she said abundance of the best of the Nation went into other Nations to weaken our Nation and spend their Mony and therefore she was afraid the Nation would be destroyed before them L.C.J. What Discourse had you with Mrs. Cellier passing through Westminster Abby Mr. G. My Lord my memory hath been exceedingly bruised but I remember my Lord as I was going through the Abby in a rainy afternoon she said this Abby was formerly filled with Benedictine Monks or something to that purpose and saith she what if it should be so again L. C. J. Are you a Protestant or a Papist Mr. G. A Protestant my Lord. L.C.J. He talks as like a Papist as can be was it what if it should be filled Mr. G. She said what if it should be again L.C.J. What did you say to that Mr. G. I only smiled to hear a Womans Discourse my Lord. L.C.J. You make all the Company laugh What did she say of the Temple Mr. G. That the Temple had been filled with Fryars too L.C.J. And what then Did she talk of filling it again Mr. G. Saith she this Place was filled with Benedictine Monks and the Temple with Fryars L C.J. This may do well enough but what did she say else concerning the Temple Mr. G. Nothing my Lord. Mr. Serjeant Maynard said something to him here which was not heard but Mr. Gadbury replyed Mr. G. Mr Serjeant I was none of the Tribe of forty one Here Mr. Gadbury was going to read in his Paper but the Court told him that would not be allowed but he might refresh his Memory with it L.C.J. Now tell me what she said Mr. Gadbury keep it in your Hand Mr. G. My Lord she put it by way of Interrogation to feel my Pulse L.C.J. What did she say else M. G. There was nothing but transient Discourse my Lord. L.C.J. We must ask you what the truth is and you have looked upon your Paper Now consider what you say and consider that you are upon a solemn Occasion and are to testify it in the presence of God Almighty I would have you tell plainly what it is and neither to make it more nor stifle it Mr. G. It was only transient discourse L.C.J. Say what it was Was it this Place was once filled with Benedictine Monks Mr. G. She said that the Abby had been filled with Benedictine Monks as the Temple had with Fryars J. Jones Look upon your Paper L.C.J. You have looked upon the Paper and pray tell us what she said Did she say she hoped to see this Place filled with Benedictines Mr. G. My Lord I do not remember that word hope J. J. How long have you been acquainted with Mrs. Cellier Mr. G. Ten or a dozen Years L.C.J. Did she never ask you any Questions about the Life of the King M. G. My Lord when the King was very ill at Windsor and all People were fearful that he would die she did move the Question to me L.C.J. What Question Mr. G. To know whether I thought his Majesty would live or die but it was her fear that he would die L.C.J. Had you seen the King Mr. G. No my Lord. L.C.J. How then did she expect you should give her an Answer from your Art Mr. G. From my Art my Lord. L.C.J. Did she desire you to consult your Art how long the King would live Mr. G. She did as I said L.C.J. What did you say to that Mr. G. I would not tell her because he was my Soveraign L.C.J. VVhat Answer did you make Mr. G. I told her I would not meddle with it L.C.J. She would have had you consult your Art or Scheme or whatever it is to know whether the King would live or die Mr. G. It was something of that L.C.J. And you said you would not meddle nor make with it Mr. G. Yes my Lord. L.C.J. She desired you to make a Scheme Mr. G. No my Lord I can't say she mentioned a Scheme but she asked the Question J. Raymend What did she ask else Mr. G. Only that Question L.C.J. How often do you believe she spake of it Mr. G. Never my Lord but when he was ill I will not baffle any thing that may conduce to the safety of the King and Kingdom L.C.J. Indeed it is very conducible to the safety of the King and Kingdom if any go about to destroy him and with evil Intentions to ask how long he will live and you ought in Duty to God and your Soveraign to declare it Did she ever make any enquiries about the Kings Death more than what you have said Mr. G. No more my Lord and then she was fearful he would die L.C.J. Did she say she would go to some Body else Mr. G. My Lord when she perceived me shy saith she I see you are afraid of me I will go to some other Astrologer L.C.J. For what Mr. G. To satisfy her Curiosity as a great many do L.C.J. What Curiosities did she ask besides this Mr. G. She would ask me sometimes about the Condition of Bodies whether they would be prosperous in the World and several other Questions L.C.J. Were you nice in these Curiosities Mr. G. Truely my Lord I was shy of meddling with any thing when I heard there was a talk about Plots L.C.J. Was you nice to give her satisfaction according to her hopes concerning these things you call Curiosities questioning whether one should be well wedd how many Children she should have c. VVere you scrupulous in that Mr. G. I think I might not be nice in that very particular L.C.J. How came it then that she would go to another Astrologer Mr. G. She asked me something about Mr.
my Life Bennet Dowdal Sworn L.C.J. What do you know of any Intimacy between Dangerfield and Mrs Cellier Dowd I have seen them together L.C J. What did they talk about D. Mrs. Cellier proposed a match between Mrs. Mary Ayrey and I and they used to talk of that when I was with them L.C.J. Did they talk of the Plot at any time D. No. L.C.J. Did you ever hear them talk of the King D. No. L.C.J. Have you any more R. Not till Mr. Dangerfield comes L-C.J. to Mrs. Cellier Have you any Record to shew he was put in the Pillory Mrs. C. Yes my Lord. Upon which the Copy of a Record from Salisbury was read of his standing on the Pillory for uttering counterfiet Guines As also the Copy of a Record of an Outlawry for Felony L.C.J. What say you to this Outlawry R. It is not the same Person L.C.J. We ought to be very careful in these Concerns else we may do a work this day may make all the Kingdom rue it It is a sad thing that People of a vitious profligate Life both before they came to Newgate and all along in their Life time should be fuffered to be VVitnesses to take away the Life of a worm I question whether he will come again or no he hath been gone a great while Such are fit to be imployed to find out but hard to be believed when they find out L.C.J. Captain Richardson is this the Man that broke Chelmsford Goal Cap. Rich. My Lord I can say nothing to that but he was brought by an Habeas Corpus from thence to me L.C.J. was he burnt in the hand for Fellony C.R. Yes my Lord I believe he was L.C.J. He made me believe as though he would flie I believe he is VVe will not hood-wink our selves against such a Fellow as this that is guilty of so notorious Crimes A man of Modesty after he hath been in the Pillory would not look a Man in the Face It appears that after he hath been burnt in the Hand he hath been outlawed for Fellony and so it doth appear by Record After about half an hours stay Mr. Dangerfield returned and brought his Pardon which was read and the word Fellony omitted and in stead of Utlagaria Qualiacunque pro Felloniis quibuscunque there was only inserted Omnia Malesicia Utlagaria qualiacunque which Omission had made the Pardon Defective it being my Lord Chief Justice his Opinion that the word Utlagaria did only reach to Outlawries between Party and Party by which his Evidence was wholly laid aside L.C.J. to Mr. Dangerfield Such Fellows as you are Sirrah shall know we are not afraid of you He produces us here a Pardon by the Name of Thomas Dangerfield of Waltham and says his Father and Kinsman are both of that Name and Place VVill you have him Sworn whether his Father or Cozen Thomas was ever convicted of Felony It is notorious enough what a Fellow this is he was in Chelmsford Goal I will shake all such Fellows before I have done with them Have you any more to say Are there any Waltham Men here Mr. Dan. My Lord this is enough to discourage a man from ever entring into an honest Principle L.C.J. What Do you with all the mischief that Hell hath in you think to brave it in a Cout of Justice I wonder at your Impudence that you dare look a Court of Justice in the Face after having been made appear so notorious a Villain J. Jones Indeed if he be the same Man he is not fit for a Witness L.C.J. And that he is the same Man is very notorious Come Mrs. Celliers What have you more to say Mrs. C. Enough my Lord. L.C.J. You have said enough already Come Gentlemen of the Jury this is a plain Case here is but one Witness in a Case of Treason and that not direct therefore lay your heads together Which being done they returned her not guilty upon which the Clerk of the Crown bid her down on her Knees which she did and cryed God bless the King and Duke of York L.C.J. VVhere is Dangerfield Is he gone Call him VVho being come the Court asked if he had Baile for the good Behaviour Mr. D. No my Lord but with the leave of the Court will fetch some L.C.J. Let a Tipstaff go with him and return before the Court rises Mr. D. My Lord that cannot be for I can't return so soon L.C.J. Then let him be committed VVhich was accordingly done FINIS